Alize wrote:LKN wrote:Alize wrote:Outside shooting are 3 pointers and beyondThe "normal" line haha, you mean the shortened line which was introduced in 1994 and was reverted back in 1997, no wonder MJs 3PFG% dropped from 37,4 in 1996-97 to 23,8% in 1997/98, in 1993 he was 35,2% and never reached near 40% in the seaons prior, with the longer line.
Lebron is a better outside shooter, period
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No actually I mean the normal line. MJ actually shot better from the normal line in the playoffs than he did from the shortened line. So yes - MJ has about a 34.5% 3PFG % from the normal line in the postseason.
Calling LeBron a better oustide shooter isn't just a dumb opinion it's objectively false. MJ is a vastly better shooter as soon as you get past 10 feet from the basket. Lebron can't even consistently shoot 40% from mid range while MJ shot close to 50% from mid range for much of his career.
It's fine to think LeBron is a better player than MJ (even though I'd disagree), but there's no debate at all about shooting.
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Oh okay, I get it now. So you - Alize - are the be-all-end-all as to whom dictates the definition of the general term "outside shooting"; and in your dictation as to what is defined as "outside shooting", it doesn't include mid-range shooting, but rather, "outside shooting" is exclusive to only attempts from the three-point line and beyond.
I hate to break it to you, but that's not how this works. You don't get to redefine the parameters as to what's been widely agreed upon and accepted as to what constitutes as outside shooting.
You know, there's a more specific name for what you're claiming to be as the definition of an outside shot; something which you claimed "
Outside shooting are 3-pointers and beyond". Actually, shots taken from three-points and beyond is what most people like to call "three point shooting" (gee, imagine that!)
And while, yes, outside shooting would also include three-point shooting, the term outside shooting, in and of itself, is not mutually exclusive to shots only taken from the three-point line and beyond. Like I said, those types of shots - shots from three-point line and beyond - are better suited to the term "three-point shooting". Ya dig?
The vague term "outside shooting" isn't something that's quantifiable to a hard definition. However, for as long as anyone can remember, the adopted meaning as to what the vague term "outside shooting" is in reference towards, would be jump shots taken from beyond the paint/lane.
The measurements are an NBA lane are 15 ft long by 16 ft wide. For all intents and purposes, any jump shot taken from any spot on the court from beyond those painted measurements (i.e. 17 ft, 20 ft, 23 ft 9 inches, 30 ft, etc., etc.) should be, and is, considered an outside jump shot - AKA outside shooting.
And with this all said, when considering the comprehensive, all-encompassing, widely intended and widely accepted term "outside shooting"....by nearly all tangible measures, Michael Jordan was a clear and decidedly better outside shooter than LeBron James.
Try not to overthink this one.