getrichordie wrote:karkinos wrote:i think immanuel quickley is getting underrated. he has a defined role and is ahead of the curve compared to most when it comes to catch and shoot. his wingspan is definitely above average. everyone has this guy in the second round and i think he's a first round talent with a high floor.
Eh, I'd say Quickley is getting slept on a little, but he's not really a first round talent. For his skill-set, he has a fairly light frame. He doesn't project to do a whole lot at the next level outside of C&S 3s and he hasn't shown a ton of deep range ability on those either. His defense is very concerning, though he has some tools, though doesn't use them well. Was worst defender on Kentucky out of all players that mattered.
I am starting to habitually sleep on UK players. Herro and Washington for most of last year, shout out to Clyde for getting me to see the light.
Quickley is so hard to grade. While he does have a +6 wingspan, he's 6'3 190. He's a good Basketball player but look at those who he compares to and how many have stayed more than 3 years in the NBA. I will say this, Quickley can defend and Dorsey and Stoudamire couldn't. So maybe I am sleeping on Quickley. But what's his NBA position? I hope he goes to a great situation for himself. Quickley's metrics don't help. While he is a PoC defender, his steals rates are below average, blocks rate is terrible. He has all of the red flags you don't want to see from an undersized off guard.
He does have a lot of skills, he can draw fouls, he can really shoot it, he split 3pt contest with Cam Reddish at the Powerade Jam Fest (McAA) a couple of years ago. I'm skeptical. I need to go back to the tape on Quickley. Maybe he has off the ball skills that give him an edge and the potential to be a secondary PG. I don't need to see Reggie or Steph. I just want to see Jodie Meeks or Seth Curry like movement. I need something more because based on what we got, he's really hard to project karkinos.
GRoD, exactly, I didn't see what I saw from Herro. I didn't see Quickley running off of screens often. I didn't see any high-end variance from the 3pt line like Herro. I didn't see that from Quickley. It was primary spot-ups and C&S and those are so hard cleanly to get in the NBA. This is why the skill Tres Tickle has is so valuable in the modern NBA even if he's not the shooter Quickley is. Because projection is might see him as a plus shooter but just being a plus shooter is not enough in today's NBA. Which is why I say, would Eddie House work in today's NBA.