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2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1161 » by Jcool0 » Fri May 22, 2020 12:22 am

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So going to assume he is closer to 6'5" and stats show he brings very little outside of shooting & doesn't play defense. What exactly is the appeal?
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2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1162 » by StunnerKO » Fri May 22, 2020 12:32 am

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52% 3pt 8.2 attempts
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So going to assume he is closer to 6'5" and stats show he brings very little outside of shooting & doesn't play defense. What exactly is the appeal?

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He’s not really non existent on that end .



He isn’t afraid of driving to the paint and he’s a really good off ball , he can work more improving his ball-handling and passing but he can scorer inside and out efficiently and isn’t a turnstile on defense .
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1164 » by othawhitemeat » Fri May 22, 2020 12:55 am

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I'm with you on his talents.

My favorite players in this draft are different than most.

1. Killian Hayes
2. Okongu
3. Nesmith
4. Wiseman
5. Bey
6. Vassell

Sleepers in second roundish

1. Jalen Smith - true 4 that can defend laterally, length, good athleticism, some post, and a 3 point shot. Taj like w a 3
2. Mamadi Diakite - Taj
3. Tyrell Terry - mentioned earlier
4. Xavier Tillman - backup 5/4 that is like an Antonio Davis w mid range, etc..
5. Malik Fitts - think he has a chance to be Paul Millsap type
6. Daniel Oturu -
7. Winston - heady point guard that can shoot and pass.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1165 » by Dresden » Fri May 22, 2020 1:05 am

Jcool0 wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:




6’6 213


23 ppg
4.9 rpg
82% FTA 4.5
52% 3pt 8.2 attempts
51% FG
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So going to assume he is closer to 6'5" and stats show he brings very little outside of shooting & doesn't play defense. What exactly is the appeal?


Well, shooting is a huge part of the nba game these days. 52% on 3's in college puts him as the best shooter in this draft. The caveat is that it wasn't a big sample size. He also has 6'10" wingspan, so he has good length, and is a decent rebounder.

We have guys who can create- Zach and Coby. We need guys who can put it in the hole. If his shooting really is that good, he wouldn't be a bad pick at #7.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1166 » by Jcool0 » Fri May 22, 2020 1:12 am

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Jcool0 wrote:
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6’6 213


23 ppg
4.9 rpg
82% FTA 4.5
52% 3pt 8.2 attempts
51% FG
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So going to assume he is closer to 6'5" and stats show he brings very little outside of shooting & doesn't play defense. What exactly is the appeal?


Well, shooting is a huge part of the nba game these days. 52% on 3's in college puts him as the best shooter in this draft. The caveat is that it wasn't a big sample size. He also has 6'10" wingspan, so he has good length, and is a decent rebounder.

We have guys who can create- Zach and Coby. We need guys who can put it in the hole. If his shooting really is that good, he wouldn't be a bad pick at #7.


I dont think the Bulls are at a point to need role players.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1167 » by GimmeDat » Fri May 22, 2020 1:31 am

othawhitemeat wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I like Nesmith a lot. But he'd be a massive reach at 7, definitely not interested that high. Fringe lottery for me.


I think players rise up. He shot freaking 50% from three in a tough league on several attempts, high iq, solid d, and above average athleticism. I know peeps think he is a reach, but if he was on a Duke, etc... he would be a top 5 pick.


When I first saw him, I thought jeez, this guy is an insane shooter, but he also looks more well rounded than that - good athletic body, etc... but I think the more I watched him, the more I realized he isn't very good as a finisher, his athleticism isn't that functional, and his D is pretty average. He can also barely dribble.

But I get what you're seeing, and I do like him, probably higher than the generally draft consensus on him.
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Post#1168 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri May 22, 2020 1:52 am

What's the overall thoughts on LaMelo Ball? as a prospect and as a fit with the Bulls?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1169 » by Dresden » Fri May 22, 2020 2:26 am

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So going to assume he is closer to 6'5" and stats show he brings very little outside of shooting & doesn't play defense. What exactly is the appeal?


Well, shooting is a huge part of the nba game these days. 52% on 3's in college puts him as the best shooter in this draft. The caveat is that it wasn't a big sample size. He also has 6'10" wingspan, so he has good length, and is a decent rebounder.

We have guys who can create- Zach and Coby. We need guys who can put it in the hole. If his shooting really is that good, he wouldn't be a bad pick at #7.


I dont think the Bulls are at a point to need role players.


I don't think shooters are role players anymore. If they can shoot lights out from deep, and are passable at everything else, they can start for most teams these days. Look at Klay Thompson. And we sorely need shooters. We were a terrible shooting team last season.

Anyway, who could we get that's any better?
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Post#1170 » by HomoSapien » Fri May 22, 2020 3:21 am

I know he's not in the draft, but is Scotty Pippen Jr a legit NBA prospect?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1171 » by Jcool0 » Fri May 22, 2020 3:36 am

HomoSapien wrote:I know he's not in the draft, but is Scotty Pippen Jr a legit NBA prospect?


At 6' 190lbs probably not.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1172 » by GimmeDat » Fri May 22, 2020 6:19 am

HomoSapien wrote:I know he's not in the draft, but is Scotty Pippen Jr a legit NBA prospect?


He can pass the rock, had a good freshman season, but not really.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1173 » by drosereturn » Fri May 22, 2020 9:27 am

Dresden wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:




6’6 213


23 ppg
4.9 rpg
82% FTA 4.5
52% 3pt 8.2 attempts
51% FG
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So going to assume he is closer to 6'5" and stats show he brings very little outside of shooting & doesn't play defense. What exactly is the appeal?


Well, shooting is a huge part of the nba game these days. 52% on 3's in college puts him as the best shooter in this draft. The caveat is that it wasn't a big sample size. He also has 6'10" wingspan, so he has good length, and is a decent rebounder.

We have guys who can create- Zach and Coby. We need guys who can put it in the hole. If his shooting really is that good, he wouldn't be a bad pick at #7.


Wow thats some crazy numbers I havent seen since Trae. If he can play avg D, I would consider him mid round. Anyone shooting 40+, 80% with that volume is a baller in the NBA. Wouldnt be surprised if he became the next Nunn, Herro.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1174 » by drosereturn » Fri May 22, 2020 9:36 am

GimmeDat wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:I know he's not in the draft, but is Scotty Pippen Jr a legit NBA prospect?


He can pass the rock, had a good freshman season, but not really.


hmm i wouldnt mind working out summer league and giving him two way since his stats arent too bad and is Pippen esque.
even if he busted, repaying the debt Bulls have for Pippen is crucial. I hope AK gives opportunity to everyone and try all them out instead of being lazy and not finding hidden gems.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1175 » by The Box Office » Fri May 22, 2020 10:53 am

GimmeDat wrote:
othawhitemeat wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I like Nesmith a lot. But he'd be a massive reach at 7, definitely not interested that high. Fringe lottery for me.


I think players rise up. He shot freaking 50% from three in a tough league on several attempts, high iq, solid d, and above average athleticism. I know peeps think he is a reach, but if he was on a Duke, etc... he would be a top 5 pick.


When I first saw him, I thought jeez, this guy is an insane shooter, but he also looks more well rounded than that - good athletic body, etc... but I think the more I watched him, the more I realized he isn't very good as a finisher, his athleticism isn't that functional, and his D is pretty average. He can also barely dribble.

But I get what you're seeing, and I do like him, probably higher than the generally draft consensus on him.


Is this true? If it is, Nesmith has no business being selected Top 10 in any draft. He can't break down defenders one on one reliably?

That's mid first round talent. According to the Ringer and Tankathon (as of this writing), Nesmith is ranked #15. That's where he should be.
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Post#1176 » by JohnnyTapwater » Fri May 22, 2020 11:14 am

I value 3 point shooting % more this year for these college players as the men's college basketball 3-point line was pushed back to the international distance of 22 feet, 1¾ inches


The NBA 3-point line ranges from 22 feet in the corners out to 23 feet, 9 inches.
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Post#1177 » by Southpaw » Fri May 22, 2020 12:30 pm

What's Okongwu's game like? Is he a prototype big or can he be a playmaker?
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Post#1178 » by Andi Obst » Fri May 22, 2020 1:07 pm

Southpaw wrote:What's Okongwu's game like? Is he a prototype big or can he be a playmaker?


I think there is definitely some hope that Okongwu can become a playmaker in certain situations (like Bam Adebayo for the Heat). He doesn't move like a typical big, knows when and where to pass the ball and I just generally like his feel for the game. He's very versatile and smart on both offense and defense, which is why would take him over Wiseman 10 times out of 10. Wiseman will be productive because of his combination of size and athleticism alone- and that will always have value, no doubt - but I question his ability to become more than a rim runner/protector.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1179 » by gobullschi » Fri May 22, 2020 5:22 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:What's the overall thoughts on LaMelo Ball? as a prospect and as a fit with the Bulls?


Do the Bulls need a point guard? I guess it depends on whether you believe Coby White is the future starting point guard or an explosive guard off the bench.

The Bulls have a lot of young talented pieces, but none of them have developed into the players they were projected to be. Does adding a playmaker help that development? I think so. My biggest issue with Otto Porter Jr. and Lauri Markkanen is their inability to create their own shot. The Bulls need someone who can make the players around them better, which is exactly what LaMelo Ball brings to the table. He already has elite ball handling, passing, and rebounding skills for a guard. All skills that the Bulls need. He's also one of the youngest prospects in this draft class.

LaMelo is far from a perfect prospect. His attitude, shooting, and defense are major concerns. I'm less concerned about his shooting ability than others. My biggest concern is his fit with LaVine defensively. The front office needs to do their homework on his work ethic and desire to be great.

IMO, the Bulls need to take advantage of their injury riddled season. When you have three starting players all missing significant time, you need to make a move to grab the best player possible with this draft pick, whether that’s moving up in the draft or trading the pick for a player. If it is a player in the draft, they need to decide who is the best fit between LaMelo Ball or Anthony Edwards.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1180 » by Chi town » Fri May 22, 2020 5:40 pm

What we know...
- AK and Evs have said they want to run, shooting and versatile defenders
- They want to win and you don’t win with rookie PG’s (unless Morant) see Trae
- Both are “gushing” over Coby per KC

If I were a betting man I’d think we go wing and we make a trade for a vet PG mentor for Coby.

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