Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[WargamesX]

Yea, that was a pretty good article. It sounds like there are going to be some opportunities to take on some contracts for picks/assets. A bunch of teams are going to be in trouble with the tax and looking to avoid or reduce there tax. Knicks can be one of the teams to jump on those opportunities

The Warriors dangle the #1 pick but you have to take back Wiggins' contract. If you are the Knicks, you do it?

I guess this is unrealistic. But would you, in this imaginary scenario?

Hypothetically, Wiggins + #1 for nothing? I would probably do that. That contract is bad, but its hard to pass up the #1 pick while keeping our own. For LaMelo I would probably take that contract. Not sure I would do that for anyone else in the draft.

Not really sure GS is thinking. They are gonna owe a ton of tax, but put themselves in that position so maybe they are ok or have a plan.

I don’t think they planned to trade Wiggins but that tax, plus the reality of lower revenue..... I could see them trading him. 135 mil in just luxury tax..... that’s insane.

[sol537]

That Wiggins salary is nasty. Might have to be the GSW Pick + Wiggins + future 2nd rounders for Randle and DSJr so we she at least some salary in the process.

We could come away with Edwards + Hayes or something to that effect to basically have a new starting back court to pair with RJ (at the 3) and Mitch. Sign Jerami Grant with the rest of the cap and you have a great young nucleus. The dreams of Gianis, AD, Kawhi, etc. would be dead though.

[Deeeez Knicks]

The Warriors dangle the #1 pick but you have to take back Wiggins' contract. If you are the Knicks, you do it?

I guess this is unrealistic. But would you, in this imaginary scenario?

Hypothetically, Wiggins + #1 for nothing? I would probably do that. That contract is bad, but its hard to pass up the #1 pick while keeping our own. For LaMelo I would probably take that contract. Not sure I would do that for anyone else in the draft.

Not really sure GS is thinking. They are gonna owe a ton of tax, but put themselves in that position so maybe they are ok or have a plan.

I don’t think they planned to trade Wiggins but that tax, plus the reality of lower revenue..... I could see them trading him. 135 mil in just luxury tax..... that’s insane.

Yea, they are def in a bind with tax. Per Hollinger, they could be down to $85mil in tax if they don't use their exceptions. Could def see them trying to trade Wiggins, but not sure for what. I think they might try to figure out a way to go for one more run. Maybe we can be a 3rd team to help them out.

[WargamesX]

That Wiggins salary is nasty. Might have to be the GSW Pick + Wiggins + future 2nd rounders for Randle and DSJr so we she at least some salary in the process.

We could come away with Edwards + Hayes or something to that effect to basically have a new starting back court to pair with RJ (at the 3) and Mitch. Sign Jerami Grant with the rest of the cap and you have a great young nucleus. The dreams of Gianis, AD, Kawhi, etc. would be dead though.

I think based on projections we would be more or less out of FA for a few years. In the scenario being discussed knicks would have about 33 mil in space and Wiggins is 29.5. We would have money to maybe do something cheap, and then use the MMLE for around 6. As we are situated now those big names weren’t coming here anyhow.

[and13]

Embiid is likely to be available too. Their cap situation is terrible. We'd have to give up probably Mitch and our 1st.
Personally I'd do it even though i love Mitch.
Embiid may be the most talented player out there. If we had him it should be easy to build a contender around him by giving him proper spacing. I think he'll thrive away from Ben. They can't even run a pnr together. Terrible fit.

[thebuzzardman]

That Wiggins salary is nasty. Might have to be the GSW Pick + Wiggins + future 2nd rounders for Randle and DSJr so we she at least some salary in the process.

We could come away with Edwards + Hayes or something to that effect to basically have a new starting back court to pair with RJ (at the 3) and Mitch. Sign Jerami Grant with the rest of the cap and you have a great young nucleus. The dreams of Gianis, AD, Kawhi, etc. would be dead though.

Good point, but DSJr expires after this year anyway. But it would increase the Knicks flexibility in season. Though I like Frank, if they ask for him instead, again it's a player the Knicks will have to make a $ decision on at the end of the year anyway.

Glad that Aller guy is here to understand all the ramifications of trades and contracts

[newyorker4ever]

I've been talking for a couple of years now about how bad i want the Knicks to get B.Beal but of course it's just mine and the Knicks luck that the Nets are gonna trade for him. This makes me sad but he's actually the perfect fit to play with KD and Kyrie and they have a ton of young players to trade for him with Dinwiddie, Levert and J.Allen leading the way and then they own the bird rights on J.Harris so i'm sure they'll get him back as well and he's one of the other top shooters i wanted the Knicks to get if no B.Beal. I'm truly sad about thinking the Nets will get this done and be a legit team as long as they can stay away from any major injuries with Kyrie and KD.

[ILOVEIT]

If Knicks don't get top two picks they should trade the pick to bring Kevin Love. Then acquire CP3 and the Knicks are immediately relevant again in the East and they have two savy vets to help groom RJ Barrett. That would be the best team the Knicks have put on the floor in 20 years.

Face it...even with a Lamelo Ball....EVEN if Lamelo is the real deal...Knicks would still be out of the playoffs for the next two years.

[thebuzzardman]

If Knicks don't get top two picks they should trade the pick to bring Kevin Love. Then acquire CP3 and the Knicks are immediately relevant again in the East and they have two savy vets to help groom RJ Barrett. That would be the best team the Knicks have put on the floor in 20 years.

Face it...even with a Lamelo Ball....EVEN if Lamelo is the real deal...Knicks would still be out of the playoffs for the next two years.

Knicks should acquire two of the most expensive players in the league? GTFO

[rajajackal]

If Knicks don't get top two picks they should trade the pick to bring Kevin Love. Then acquire CP3 and the Knicks are immediately relevant again in the East and they have two savy vets to help groom RJ Barrett. That would be the best team the Knicks have put on the floor in 20 years.

Face it...even with a Lamelo Ball....EVEN if Lamelo is the real deal...Knicks would still be out of the playoffs for the next two years.

so not only do you want to take on kevin love...you want us to trade our lottery pick for him? i'm not against trading the pick, but we can do so in a deal for a much better player

[GIMME_DATT]

If Knicks don't get top two picks they should trade the pick to bring Kevin Love. Then acquire CP3 and the Knicks are immediately relevant again in the East and they have two savy vets to help groom RJ Barrett. That would be the best team the Knicks have put on the floor in 20 years.

Face it...even with a Lamelo Ball....EVEN if Lamelo is the real deal...Knicks would still be out of the playoffs for the next two years.

Kevin love has never in his career elevated a team anywhere. without lebron next to him he has never made the playoffs and hes older now. Hell no

[thebuzzardman]

If Knicks don't get top two picks they should trade the pick to bring Kevin Love. Then acquire CP3 and the Knicks are immediately relevant again in the East and they have two savy vets to help groom RJ Barrett. That would be the best team the Knicks have put on the floor in 20 years.

Face it...even with a Lamelo Ball....EVEN if Lamelo is the real deal...Knicks would still be out of the playoffs for the next two years.

Kevin love has never in his career elevated a team anywhere. without lebron next to him he has never made the playoffs and hes older now. Hell no

You don't want to pay him 30 million a year for his age 32,33,34 years along with paying Chris Paul 42 million a year for age 35,36 seasons? What's wrong with you?!?!


I'd call them the 70/70 duo. 70 million dollars tied up in 70 years of age. Actually 69 years of age, approximately, but let's not quibble.

Oh, and I could at least get the C Paul arguments based on glaring need of position, he's a better player, he breaks down the defense (which the Knicks could use from ANY position) and that the contract is mercifully 1 year shorter.

And I still wouldn't be thrilled.

But K Love, even alone? Why? But both and then being totally capped out for 2 years and carrying a significant cap hit of K Love for another year? Jesus, no.

Sorry, but IDONTLOVEIT

[god shammgod]

dear lord

[thebuzzardman]

IDONTLOVEIT - can you engineer some trades where the Knicks can trade for guys in their mid 30's, cap themselves out but also trade as many of their future picks as God, country and Adam Silver allow? We'd really appreciate. Thanks.

Also, Isiah, is that you?

[thebuzzardman]

dear lord

I think "IMLOVINIT" posts are the best thing in days. Nothing excites the senses like the opportunity to rail against idiocy.

[thebuzzardman]

I'm going to guess the phrase/username ILOVEIT refers to the act of huffing industrial strength paint thinner.

[thebuzzardman]

Then again, I did propose taking on Wiggins' contract for the Warriors #1 pick, so feel free to come at me. We're all bored. I should be nicer.

[jvsimonetti0514]

If Knicks don't get top two picks they should trade the pick to bring Kevin Love. Then acquire CP3 and the Knicks are immediately relevant again in the East and they have two savy vets to help groom RJ Barrett. That would be the best team the Knicks have put on the floor in 20 years.

Face it...even with a Lamelo Ball....EVEN if Lamelo is the real deal...Knicks would still be out of the playoffs for the next two years.

You’re fired

[newyorker4ever]

Then again, I did propose taking on Wiggins' contract for the Warriors #1 pick, so feel free to come at me. We're all bored. I should be nicer.

Ummmmm we wouldn't need you around here if you didn't have your mean guy schtick though.

[ny-n-md]

Is anyone still on the Christian Wood train? I am still very much hopeful we pursue him. He’s young and motivated and coming off his best season. He fits the young core much better than Randle and his spin cycles. He can spot up and make quick moves to the basket or just shoot the 3. He dunks everything and can block shots too. I love his confidence in that he believes he’ll be an All Star next season. Sign him if at all possible.