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Post#721 » by RHODEY » Fri Jun 5, 2020 3:51 pm

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F N 11 wrote:Guess its prospect watching for the next 5 months wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


just a hair over 2 months until the lottery. I'll just wait until then before worrying any more about this. at least after that we can narrow our options down. we've already beaten every possibility to death at this point


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Post#722 » by robillionaire » Fri Jun 5, 2020 3:57 pm

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F N 11 wrote:Guess its prospect watching for the next 5 months wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


just a hair over 2 months until the lottery. I'll just wait until then before worrying any more about this. at least after that we can narrow our options down. we've already beaten every possibility to death at this point


20 Days?...that's some long hair :D


yeah when I first saw it I saw the august 25 and october 15 and got the days for them flip flopped

also on a related note i haven't cut or brushed my hair since february
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Post#723 » by moocow007 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 4:33 pm

They should allow the bottom feeder teams to play in their own mini-season.

The winner of that season (or the top teams) should then have improved odds to land a top pick in the draft. A battle of the busters.

An "anti-tank" competition to see who really wants to win the lottery by playing hard for it.

How refreshing would that be? Heck, anybody can tank. Honestly why not do this regularly. You have the playoff teams playing a postseason to see who wins the title. Why not have the lottery teams play a postseason to see who wins the lottery?

Set the lottery odds order based on the mini-season of the none playoff teams.
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Post#724 » by King of Canada » Fri Jun 5, 2020 4:53 pm

moocow007 wrote:They should allow the bottom feeder teams to play in their own mini-season.

The winner of that season (or the top teams) should then have improved odds to land a top pick in the draft. A battle of the busters.

An "anti-tank" competition to see who really wants to win the lottery by playing hard for it.

How refreshing would that be? Heck, anybody can tank. Honestly why not do this regularly. You have the playoff teams playing a postseason to see who wins the title. Why not have the lottery teams play a postseason to see who wins the lottery?

Set the lottery odds order based on the mini-season of the none playoff teams.


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Post#725 » by moocow007 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 5:04 pm

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moocow007 wrote:They should allow the bottom feeder teams to play in their own mini-season.

The winner of that season (or the top teams) should then have improved odds to land a top pick in the draft. A battle of the busters.

An "anti-tank" competition to see who really wants to win the lottery by playing hard for it.

How refreshing would that be? Heck, anybody can tank. Honestly why not do this regularly. You have the playoff teams playing a postseason to see who wins the title. Why not have the lottery teams play a postseason to see who wins the lottery?

Set the lottery odds order based on the mini-season of the none playoff teams.


Curry would miraculously decide to play, etc....


:lol: That's ok. At least we get a better shot at the no.2 spot?
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Post#726 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 5:30 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maxey might be an underrated option on the Knicks board. Leon Rose is close with Coach Cal/Kentucky so he should have a lot of intel. Rumors were that the Knicks were looking for a scoring G, and Maxey could be the best one when we pick. He feels like one of those guys who will pan out better in the NBA and be pretty good.

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Post#727 » by moocow007 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 5:57 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maxey might be an underrated option on the Knicks board. Leon Rose is close with Coach Cal/Kentucky so he should have a lot of intel. Rumors were that the Knicks were looking for a scoring G, and Maxey could be the best one when we pick. He feels like one of those guys who will pan out better in the NBA and be pretty good.

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He's really got no NBA position. I think a lot of folks may be under the notion that he's a starting caliber NBA PG and not realize that he wasn't even the starting PG for Kentucky (Ashton Hagans was). Maxey has nice physical tools for a guy his height (just 6'3") and he can put up some highlight real plays, but I'm not sure what he actually can do consistently in the NBA to warrant a lottery pick (certainly not a lottery pick in the top half of the lottery). He doesn't shoot well from deep. He really doesn't create shots for himself that particularly well either off the dribble. At his height you can't play him at the wing in the NBA without basically nullifying his physical advantage against many guards (especially PG"s). So what do you do with him and what things can he do that will make him really succesful in the NBA? He really doesn't have the intensity, explosiveness or shooting ability of a Donovan Mitchell so I don't see him being a Mitchell type short physically strong, athletic SG. And yeah I wasn't a fan of Colin Sexton either.
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Post#728 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 6:17 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maxey might be an underrated option on the Knicks board. Leon Rose is close with Coach Cal/Kentucky so he should have a lot of intel. Rumors were that the Knicks were looking for a scoring G, and Maxey could be the best one when we pick. He feels like one of those guys who will pan out better in the NBA and be pretty good.

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He's really got no NBA position. I think a lot of folks may be under the notion that he's a starting caliber NBA PG and not realize that he wasn't even the starting PG for Kentucky (Ashton Hagans was). Maxey has nice physical tools for a guy his height (just 6'3") and he can put up some highlight real plays, but I'm not sure what he actually can do consistently in the NBA to warrant a lottery pick (certainly not a lottery pick in the top half of the lottery). He doesn't shoot well from deep. He really doesn't create shots for himself that particularly well either off the dribble. At his height you can't play him at the wing in the NBA without basically nullifying his physical advantage against many guards (especially PG"s). So what do you do with him and what things can he do that will make him really succesful in the NBA? He really doesn't have the intensity, explosiveness or shooting ability of a Donovan Mitchell so I don't see him being a Mitchell type short physically strong, athletic SG. And yeah I wasn't a fan of Colin Sexton either.

At least Sexton can shoot and can create shots for himself. Was even averaging 25 PPG and 4 assists on 52/43/80 splits after the all star break. I don’t ever see Maxey being that good since he can’t shoot or create for himself that well. He prob will peak as a Rodney Stuckey player. I personally like Immanuel Quickley more than Maxey on that Kentucky team
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Post#729 » by F N 11 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 6:31 pm

Knicks have had scoring guards. Its about using the players correctly. What knicks need more specifically is a play making point guard who can be a scoring threat. That will opn up lobs for Mitch, open 3's, and open up driving lanes and creativity for RJ.

If we cant get an elite creator in Melo my 2nd guy would be Killian because he fits well with RJ.

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Post#730 » by Traveyknicks23 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 6:51 pm

This would be the draft you’d have the best chance of trading up in no need to stay put if you feel you can make it happen
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Post#731 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jun 5, 2020 7:04 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maxey might be an underrated option on the Knicks board. Leon Rose is close with Coach Cal/Kentucky so he should have a lot of intel. Rumors were that the Knicks were looking for a scoring G, and Maxey could be the best one when we pick. He feels like one of those guys who will pan out better in the NBA and be pretty good.

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He's really got no NBA position. I think a lot of folks may be under the notion that he's a starting caliber NBA PG and not realize that he wasn't even the starting PG for Kentucky (Ashton Hagans was). Maxey has nice physical tools for a guy his height (just 6'3") and he can put up some highlight real plays, but I'm not sure what he actually can do consistently in the NBA to warrant a lottery pick (certainly not a lottery pick in the top half of the lottery). He doesn't shoot well from deep. He really doesn't create shots for himself that particularly well either off the dribble. At his height you can't play him at the wing in the NBA without basically nullifying his physical advantage against many guards (especially PG"s). So what do you do with him and what things can he do that will make him really succesful in the NBA? He really doesn't have the intensity, explosiveness or shooting ability of a Donovan Mitchell so I don't see him being a Mitchell type short physically strong, athletic SG. And yeah I wasn't a fan of Colin Sexton either.


Yea, he is more of an undersized SG/combo G then a PG but that doesn't necessarily mean he can't be good. There's a lot of combo guards or undersized SGs who are pretty succesful like Mitchell, Bledsoe, Lou Williams, Eric Gordon, McCollum, Beal, etc. Physically, he can fit the modern combo/scoring G type.

Overall he looks like he will be a good scorer in the NBA...He's a good finisher around the rim, nice floater. Can shoot off the bounce. He played really well in big games. Not overly explosive, but he has really great footwork. He can get to his spots, handle some contact and really crafty either going to the glass/rim or hitting floaters. I think he just has a good awareness...on defense too. Looks like he can be a solid/good defender.

A lot comes down to his 3 point shooting. The percentages and consistency werent there but a lot of signs for hope. Has range, great FT shooter, form looks good, shot well in HS, seems to have the confidence to shoot. I buy that he can be a good shooter.

Hes not at the top of my board. Maybe he ends up being a Lou Williams type scorer off the bench which is still good. But I see some sneaky potential too. Loved that he played great in big games too. Maybe some bias there. One of those guys who I think would have had a great tournament and worked up his stock
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Post#733 » by CoreyVillains » Fri Jun 5, 2020 7:08 pm

Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!

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Post#734 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jun 5, 2020 7:33 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maxey might be an underrated option on the Knicks board. Leon Rose is close with Coach Cal/Kentucky so he should have a lot of intel. Rumors were that the Knicks were looking for a scoring G, and Maxey could be the best one when we pick. He feels like one of those guys who will pan out better in the NBA and be pretty good.

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His form looks good with good range. 83% from the line, shot well in HS. Seems like one of those guys that will be a good shooter. Even Sexton only shot 33.6% in college from 3.
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Post#735 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 8:03 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Maxey might be an underrated option on the Knicks board. Leon Rose is close with Coach Cal/Kentucky so he should have a lot of intel. Rumors were that the Knicks were looking for a scoring G, and Maxey could be the best one when we pick. He feels like one of those guys who will pan out better in the NBA and be pretty good.

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His form looks good with good range. 83% from the line, shot well in HS. Seems like one of those guys that will be a good shooter. Even Sexton only shot 33.6% in college from 3.

His form is actually one of the biggest reasons I’m not high on him. Super low release on his shot, which resulted in a poor 29%
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Sexton still shot about 5% better from 3 than Maxey too. I just see Maxey being a inefficient scorer off the bench like Rodney Stuckey. Would rather go for someone else with higher upside.
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3toheadmelo wrote:Pass. He’s Sexton but can’t shoot


His form looks good with good range. 83% from the line, shot well in HS. Seems like one of those guys that will be a good shooter. Even Sexton only shot 33.6% in college from 3.

His form is actually one of the biggest reasons I’m not high on him. Super low release on his shot, which resulted in a poor 29%
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Sexton still shot about 5% better from 3 than Maxey too. I just see Maxey being a inefficient scorer off the bench like Rodney Stuckey. Would rather go for someone else with higher upside.


The release is low, but otherwise is fine. Trae Young. Coby White, Steph Curry, etc have low releases...Maxey doesn't have as quick a release though

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Post#738 » by HEZI » Fri Jun 5, 2020 8:44 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!



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Post#739 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 8:58 pm

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His form looks good with good range. 83% from the line, shot well in HS. Seems like one of those guys that will be a good shooter. Even Sexton only shot 33.6% in college from 3.

His form is actually one of the biggest reasons I’m not high on him. Super low release on his shot, which resulted in a poor 29%
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Sexton still shot about 5% better from 3 than Maxey too. I just see Maxey being a inefficient scorer off the bench like Rodney Stuckey. Would rather go for someone else with higher upside.


The release is low, but otherwise is fine. Trae Young. Coby White, Steph Curry, etc have low releases...Maxey doesn't have as quick a release though

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Exactly those guys have much faster releases on their shot. Maxey’s is a lot slower. And they shot the 3 ball significantly better than Maxey in college. Plus his shot looks flat, not much arc. I’ll pass. I just don’t see much upside in a poor shooting combo guard that has an average handle, limited court vision. Rodney Stuckey vibes to me
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Post#740 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 5, 2020 9:06 pm

He’s better than Maxey to me
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