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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1161 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:44 am

KnicksGod wrote:I do have a feeling that it's possible more than we realize, though unlikely, that GOP will try to ease him out and have him not run again. Trump may not go no matter what, but there are ways to see if you can incentivize him to leave.

It's not likely but it's not impossible. I'm sure there's a movement of GOP who would seek to quietly oust him and lavish praise on him, etc. Get him immunity.

Mitt is out there. Marching. Trump down 15 in Michigan, a swing state.


You can bet that all but a handful of the GOP in DC want Trump gone. They're just petrified of losing the 20% of the population that hugs Trump's nutz, because that would literally send the whole party into retirement.

Use the 25th Amendment and all hell will break loose. Their only play is to get him to resign. Anything else and the wackos will martyr Trump and crucify the GOP.

To make that happen they need to get Attorney Generals to promise to not press charges against Trump and that's a stretch.

The GOP is a snakepit where Trump has komprommat on many of the Senators (Exhibit A: Lindsey Graham) so really they're damned either way.

I worry about it, because I want Trump to lose in a historic landslide and take them with him, but something could happen and Trump gets dumped somehow. I just haven't figured out how they could pull it off without sabotaging themselves at the same time.

I'm betting Pelosi also wants Trump to be there on Nov. 3rd too for the same reason, hence I don't expect a second impeachment which at this point would be a get out of jail card for the GOP Senators.

If there is a way to expel Trump, I think it will probably happen by the end of July. After that, I figure it's Trump on Nov. 3rd.

In April, I predicted his numbers would start dipping into the thirties right about now and his aggregate deficit is now 14 points. No reason to get overconfident, but there is zero historical precedent for an incumbent to be in this kind of hole this close to the election. Plus, Biden has had and increased his lead since the end of 2019, also atypical for a challenger.

Trump is uniquely self-destructive. He didn't campaign well in 2016. He became the object of populist projections and then it was James Comey who put him over the top. He's such a dolt he doesn't have a clue about how to campaign now.

His campaign isn't even trying. Literally. They're phoning it in. I saw conjecture that everyone around Trump has so little respect for him they just lie to his face, feed him phony polling numbers and run local ads on Washington DC network affiliate stations because they know Bunker Boy will see those.

They're just raking in their last payday eating up their media buying commissions and yessing Donnie to death. I really don't think anyone around him is planning on winning. The ship is sinking and I don't think Trump has any allies left trying to help him right the ship other than Stephen Miller. They're looting Trump while they can.

If he really had anyone of any caliber left to assist him at this point there would be some glimmer of a plan. There is none. He has Jared saying let's gas the protestors and Ivanka handing him a bible from her handbag. It's like a mafia family in an old Western movie surrounded at Fort Apache.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1162 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:54 am

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KnicksGod wrote:I do have a feeling that it's possible more than we realize, though unlikely, that GOP will try to ease him out and have him not run again. Trump may not go no matter what, but there are ways to see if you can incentivize him to leave.

It's not likely but it's not impossible. I'm sure there's a movement of GOP who would seek to quietly oust him and lavish praise on him, etc. Get him immunity.

Mitt is out there. Marching. Trump down 15 in Michigan, a swing state.


I don't think they have the courage to turn on Trump. They've had so many opportunities and it's getting a little late in the game for that now. Trump may not leave the White House even if he get his clock cleaned in the general election. The man is insane. We are in unchartered territory and there is plenty of time left on the clock, as Hubie would say. We'll see if the Hidin' Biden strategy works. He'll have to debate Trump at least a few times so we'll have to see how that goes. There's still plenty of time for Joe to fumble the ball.


Trump will be even more insane on Nov. 4th so I think we can expect him to claim he wuz robbed.

On January 20th he will be dragged out by U.S. Marshalls if he refuses to leave for the inauguration, but it is the period between Nov. 4 and Jan. 19 that concerns me.

That's 10 weeks to stonewall the transition team, issue a storm of bonkers executive orders, pardon a hundred Judge Arpaio's, nullify every last environmental regulation, appoint a last passel of knuckle dragging judges all while inciting a civil war to be acted out by his semi-automatic toting followers.

Winning the election is the key, but lord have mercy on this country for the aftermath. It's going to be an absolute chit show.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1163 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:29 am

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KnicksGod wrote:I do have a feeling that it's possible more than we realize, though unlikely, that GOP will try to ease him out and have him not run again. Trump may not go no matter what, but there are ways to see if you can incentivize him to leave.

It's not likely but it's not impossible. I'm sure there's a movement of GOP who would seek to quietly oust him and lavish praise on him, etc. Get him immunity.

Mitt is out there. Marching. Trump down 15 in Michigan, a swing state.


I don't think they have the courage to turn on Trump. They've had so many opportunities and it's getting a little late in the game for that now. Trump may not leave the White House even if he get his clock cleaned in the general election. The man is insane. We are in unchartered territory and there is plenty of time left on the clock, as Hubie would say. We'll see if the Hidin' Biden strategy works. He'll have to debate Trump at least a few times so we'll have to see how that goes. There's still plenty of time for Joe to fumble the ball.


Trump will be even more insane on Nov. 4th so I think we can expect him to claim he wuz robbed.

On January 20th he will be dragged out by U.S. Marshalls if he refuses to leave for the inauguration, but it is the period between Nov. 4 and Jan. 19 that concerns me.

That's 10 weeks to stonewall the transition team, issue a storm of bonkers executive orders, pardon a hundred Judge Arpaio's, nullify every last environmental regulation, appoint a last passel of knuckle dragging judges all while inciting a civil war to be acted out by his semi-automatic toting followers.

Winning the election is the key, but lord have mercy on this country for the aftermath. It's going to be an absolute chit show.


Did you see all of those unauthorized and unidentified federal "officers" clear out those peaceful protesters with teargas and other displays of force. We don't even know who they were. I think there are plenty of Trumpanzee nut-bags in federal law enforcement who will step up for him. All of them Oath Keepers/white supremacists ex-military and CIA types.

I got a can a hair spray and a lighter.
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Post#1164 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:35 am

Shyt is getting really real :o

The old-school Italians are going to flip out. :noway:

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Post#1165 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:44 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
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I don't think they have the courage to turn on Trump. They've had so many opportunities and it's getting a little late in the game for that now. Trump may not leave the White House even if he get his clock cleaned in the general election. The man is insane. We are in unchartered territory and there is plenty of time left on the clock, as Hubie would say. We'll see if the Hidin' Biden strategy works. He'll have to debate Trump at least a few times so we'll have to see how that goes. There's still plenty of time for Joe to fumble the ball.


Trump will be even more insane on Nov. 4th so I think we can expect him to claim he wuz robbed.

On January 20th he will be dragged out by U.S. Marshalls if he refuses to leave for the inauguration, but it is the period between Nov. 4 and Jan. 19 that concerns me.

That's 10 weeks to stonewall the transition team, issue a storm of bonkers executive orders, pardon a hundred Judge Arpaio's, nullify every last environmental regulation, appoint a last passel of knuckle dragging judges all while inciting a civil war to be acted out by his semi-automatic toting followers.

Winning the election is the key, but lord have mercy on this country for the aftermath. It's going to be an absolute chit show.


Did you see all of those unauthorized and unidentified federal "officers" clear out those peaceful protesters with teargas and other displays of force. We don't even know who they were. I think there are plenty of Trumpanzee nut-bags in federal law enforcement who will step up for him. All of them Oath Keepers/white supremacists ex-military and CIA types.

I got a can a hair spray and a lighter.


Dude, put down the hair spray. We need you to apply your legal brain to this issue of election fraud. It's coming and it's going to be really bad.

Read this and tell me that is not a nightmare scenario. I'm worried if the electoral count is in any way close.

That Trump will try to dismantle the election results is why we need a landslide victory and why we all need to push hard to bury these bastards.

Anyway, this transcript is probably one of the most chilling things I've read in a long time. This is the kind of thing that keeps me up at night and why I'm such a pain in the azz to the rest of you here. We cannot fail to get out a massive vote.

Will he go?
A law professor fears a meltdown this November.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/3/21257133/trump-2020-election-meltdown-lawrence-douglas
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1166 » by sims » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:42 am

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What is with many companies not speaking out to the point? Even the company I work for refused to mention anything particular. Just beating around the bush.


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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1168 » by blanko » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:24 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
I don't think they have the courage to turn on Trump. They've had so many opportunities and it's getting a little late in the game for that now. Trump may not leave the White House even if he get his clock cleaned in the general election. The man is insane. We are in unchartered territory and there is plenty of time left on the clock, as Hubie would say. We'll see if the Hidin' Biden strategy works. He'll have to debate Trump at least a few times so we'll have to see how that goes. There's still plenty of time for Joe to fumble the ball.


Trump will be even more insane on Nov. 4th so I think we can expect him to claim he wuz robbed.

On January 20th he will be dragged out by U.S. Marshalls if he refuses to leave for the inauguration, but it is the period between Nov. 4 and Jan. 19 that concerns me.

That's 10 weeks to stonewall the transition team, issue a storm of bonkers executive orders, pardon a hundred Judge Arpaio's, nullify every last environmental regulation, appoint a last passel of knuckle dragging judges all while inciting a civil war to be acted out by his semi-automatic toting followers.

Winning the election is the key, but lord have mercy on this country for the aftermath. It's going to be an absolute chit show.


Did you see all of those unauthorized and unidentified federal "officers" clear out those peaceful protesters with teargas and other displays of force. We don't even know who they were. I think there are plenty of Trumpanzee nut-bags in federal law enforcement who will step up for him. All of them Oath Keepers/white supremacists ex-military and CIA types.

I got a can a hair spray and a lighter.


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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1169 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:46 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I do have a feeling that it's possible more than we realize, though unlikely, that GOP will try to ease him out and have him not run again. Trump may not go no matter what, but there are ways to see if you can incentivize him to leave.

It's not likely but it's not impossible. I'm sure there's a movement of GOP who would seek to quietly oust him and lavish praise on him, etc. Get him immunity.

Mitt is out there. Marching. Trump down 15 in Michigan, a swing state.


You can bet that all but a handful of the GOP in DC want Trump gone. They're just petrified of losing the 20% of the population that hugs Trump's nutz, because that would literally send the whole party into retirement.

Use the 25th Amendment and all hell will break loose. Their only play is to get him to resign. Anything else and the wackos will martyr Trump and crucify the GOP.

To make that happen they need to get Attorney Generals to promise to not press charges against Trump and that's a stretch.

The GOP is a snakepit where Trump has komprommat on many of the Senators (Exhibit A: Lindsey Graham) so really they're damned either way.

I worry about it, because I want Trump to lose in a historic landslide and take them with him, but something could happen and Trump gets dumped somehow. I just haven't figured out how they could pull it off without sabotaging themselves at the same time.

I'm betting Pelosi also wants Trump to be there on Nov. 3rd too for the same reason, hence I don't expect a second impeachment which at this point would be a get out of jail card for the GOP Senators.

If there is a way to expel Trump, I think it will probably happen by the end of July. After that, I figure it's Trump on Nov. 3rd.

In April, I predicted his numbers would start dipping into the thirties right about now and his aggregate deficit is now 14 points. No reason to get overconfident, but there is zero historical precedent for an incumbent to be in this kind of hole this close to the election. Plus, Biden has had and increased his lead since the end of 2019, also atypical for a challenger.

Trump is uniquely self-destructive. He didn't campaign well in 2016. He became the object of populist projections and then it was James Comey who put him over the top. He's such a dolt he doesn't have a clue about how to campaign now.

His campaign isn't even trying. Literally. They're phoning it in. I saw conjecture that everyone around Trump has so little respect for him they just lie to his face, feed him phony polling numbers and run local ads on Washington DC network affiliate stations because they know Bunker Boy will see those.

They're just raking in their last payday eating up their media buying commissions and yessing Donnie to death. I really don't think anyone around him is planning on winning. The ship is sinking and I don't think Trump has any allies left trying to help him right the ship other than Stephen Miller. They're looting Trump while they can.

If he really had anyone of any caliber left to assist him at this point there would be some glimmer of a plan. There is none. He has Jared saying let's gas the protestors and Ivanka handing him a bible from her handbag. It's like a mafia family in an old Western movie surrounded at Fort Apache.


That is true. However, you underestimate that there is an army of Republican campaign operatives backed by hundreds of millions of dollars VERY GOOD at what the do, which is microtarget voters in the electoral swing states.
Oh, and Cambridge Analytica is back helping them, but under a new name.

https://www.theregister.com/2018/05/02/cambridge_analytica_shutdown/

So, people need to understand their feel good protest votes, in the right states DO matter. The democrats need to run a really disciplined campaign where it matters (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona, MAYBE Georgia)

And hopefully they have boots on the ground getting people registered.

Oh, and I hate to sound like a d*ck (well, at least here, since I'm a semi pro d*ck on here most of the time), but NEVER underestimate how rioting and "scary black people" scare the sh*t out of many Americans, particularly older ones, and guess what? Mostly older people vote.

Also, America is a DEEPLY conservative country, in case no one has noticed. In different ways. There is sizable number of people who are DEEPLY conservative, and then, MILD conservativism runs WIDE. Now, among that 10-20% of "toss up" voters who are mainly conservative but don't mind the government "doing stuff", I think Trump's disgusting behavior is enough to swing them.

But never, ever underestimate the power of scaring the sh*t out of those people to get them to vote for some authoritarianism\racism, under the guise of law and order and national security

Wish this sh*t wasn't true, but it is.
It's not an anti protest thing, nor specifically anti riot.

But I'm wary and scared as hell Evil John Goodman will figure out how to provoke the situation to provide the scenario that warms the scared authoritarian child lurking in the hearts of a bunch of old mid westerners.

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1170 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:47 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Shyt is getting really real :o

The old-school Italians are going to flip out. :noway:



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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1171 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:51 pm

sims wrote:
F N 11 wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Read on Twitter

What is with many companies not speaking out to the point? Even the company I work for refused to mention anything particular. Just beating around the bush.


yeah i mean maybe this kind of neo-mccarthyist inquisition ain't it


You mean consumers leveraging the power of their free speech and free market opinions and articulating where they will take their business isn't doing it for you? Sounds like the hidden hand of the market to me, to the extent that thing exists anymore in this country.

Interesting.
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Post#1172 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:19 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I do have a feeling that it's possible more than we realize, though unlikely, that GOP will try to ease him out and have him not run again. Trump may not go no matter what, but there are ways to see if you can incentivize him to leave.

It's not likely but it's not impossible. I'm sure there's a movement of GOP who would seek to quietly oust him and lavish praise on him, etc. Get him immunity.

Mitt is out there. Marching. Trump down 15 in Michigan, a swing state.


You can bet that all but a handful of the GOP in DC want Trump gone. They're just petrified of losing the 20% of the population that hugs Trump's nutz, because that would literally send the whole party into retirement.

Use the 25th Amendment and all hell will break loose. Their only play is to get him to resign. Anything else and the wackos will martyr Trump and crucify the GOP.

To make that happen they need to get Attorney Generals to promise to not press charges against Trump and that's a stretch.

The GOP is a snakepit where Trump has komprommat on many of the Senators (Exhibit A: Lindsey Graham) so really they're damned either way.

I worry about it, because I want Trump to lose in a historic landslide and take them with him, but something could happen and Trump gets dumped somehow. I just haven't figured out how they could pull it off without sabotaging themselves at the same time.

I'm betting Pelosi also wants Trump to be there on Nov. 3rd too for the same reason, hence I don't expect a second impeachment which at this point would be a get out of jail card for the GOP Senators.

If there is a way to expel Trump, I think it will probably happen by the end of July. After that, I figure it's Trump on Nov. 3rd.

In April, I predicted his numbers would start dipping into the thirties right about now and his aggregate deficit is now 14 points. No reason to get overconfident, but there is zero historical precedent for an incumbent to be in this kind of hole this close to the election. Plus, Biden has had and increased his lead since the end of 2019, also atypical for a challenger.

Trump is uniquely self-destructive. He didn't campaign well in 2016. He became the object of populist projections and then it was James Comey who put him over the top. He's such a dolt he doesn't have a clue about how to campaign now.

His campaign isn't even trying. Literally. They're phoning it in. I saw conjecture that everyone around Trump has so little respect for him they just lie to his face, feed him phony polling numbers and run local ads on Washington DC network affiliate stations because they know Bunker Boy will see those.

They're just raking in their last payday eating up their media buying commissions and yessing Donnie to death. I really don't think anyone around him is planning on winning. The ship is sinking and I don't think Trump has any allies left trying to help him right the ship other than Stephen Miller. They're looting Trump while they can.

If he really had anyone of any caliber left to assist him at this point there would be some glimmer of a plan. There is none. He has Jared saying let's gas the protestors and Ivanka handing him a bible from her handbag. It's like a mafia family in an old Western movie surrounded at Fort Apache.


That is true. However, you underestimate that there is an army of Republican campaign operatives backed by hundreds of millions of dollars VERY GOOD at what the do, which is microtarget voters in the electoral swing states.
Oh, and Cambridge Analytica is back helping them, but under a new name.

https://www.theregister.com/2018/05/02/cambridge_analytica_shutdown/

So, people need to understand their feel good protest votes, in the right states DO matter. The democrats need to run a really disciplined campaign where it matters (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona, MAYBE Georgia)

And hopefully they have boots on the ground getting people registered.

Oh, and I hate to sound like a d*ck (well, at least here, since I'm a semi pro d*ck on here most of the time), but NEVER underestimate how rioting and "scary black people" scare the sh*t out of many Americans, particularly older ones, and guess what? Mostly older people vote.

Also, America is a DEEPLY conservative country, in case no one has noticed. In different ways. There is sizable number of people who are DEEPLY conservative, and then, MILD conservativism runs WIDE. Now, among that 10-20% of "toss up" voters who are mainly conservative but don't mind the government "doing stuff", I think Trump's disgusting behavior is enough to swing them.

But never, ever underestimate the power of scaring the sh*t out of those people to get them to vote for some authoritarianism\racism, under the guise of law and order and national security

Wish this sh*t wasn't true, but it is.
It's not an anti protest thing, nor specifically anti riot.

But I'm wary and scared as hell Evil John Goodman will figure out how to provoke the situation to provide the scenario that warms the scared authoritarian child lurking in the hearts of a bunch of old mid westerners.

#Gaysocialistabortionmuslimscomingtogivemymoneytobrownpeople!


Yeah, that's why I remain very concerned about not giving those operatives their signature rallying point to broadcast to Facebook ads. It definitely swung the election last time (plus some possible other chicanery + Comey chipping in). This is exactly why Biden has to be smart and not say yes to "Do want to defund the police", because that is literally what those operatives are praying for and what they will use to claw back several key percentage points.

Another key thing to be vigilant about is the phenomenon (forgot the phrase, but it has been studied and verified) whereby voters deny they support a particular candidate when they are at their nadir of popularity, i.e. right now with Trump being so controversial and at his worst. That skews polls as much as five percent.

IOW, while Biden's averages now are around 14 points, that can easily mean it is only 8 or 9 points. Then operatives hack away another five and what you need then is a Comey and you're back to a razor thin margin either way. Yes, there is no reason to get cocky. America is full of mouth breathers.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1173 » by EnigmatiC » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:53 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8405167/White-men-Lives-Matter-sign-taunt-protesters-reenacting-George-Floyds-death.html


Two white New Jersey brothers have sparked outrage by reenacting the death of George Floyd while a group of Black Lives Matters protesters marched past them.

The incident occurred on Monday in Franklinville, NJ. The brothers have been identified as Jim and Joe DeMarco. Jim worked for FedEx but has since been fired and Joe has been suspended from his job as a corrections officer.

In the video, Jim, 51, is seen kneeling on Joe, 48, as Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin did while arresting Floyd on May 25.


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Around the corner from me is a wood shop. Guy had a pickup truck with a Trump flag on it portraying Trump as a muscle-bound superman. Ironic since Trump is such an effeminate sissy who wears high heels and a girdle to hold in his gut, but rednecks seem to think he's some kind of stud. It's weird AF.
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Post#1175 » by K_ick_God » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:20 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I do have a feeling that it's possible more than we realize, though unlikely, that GOP will try to ease him out and have him not run again. Trump may not go no matter what, but there are ways to see if you can incentivize him to leave.

It's not likely but it's not impossible. I'm sure there's a movement of GOP who would seek to quietly oust him and lavish praise on him, etc. Get him immunity.

Mitt is out there. Marching. Trump down 15 in Michigan, a swing state.


You can bet that all but a handful of the GOP in DC want Trump gone. They're just petrified of losing the 20% of the population that hugs Trump's nutz, because that would literally send the whole party into retirement.

Use the 25th Amendment and all hell will break loose. Their only play is to get him to resign. Anything else and the wackos will martyr Trump and crucify the GOP.

To make that happen they need to get Attorney Generals to promise to not press charges against Trump and that's a stretch.

The GOP is a snakepit where Trump has komprommat on many of the Senators (Exhibit A: Lindsey Graham) so really they're damned either way.

I worry about it, because I want Trump to lose in a historic landslide and take them with him, but something could happen and Trump gets dumped somehow. I just haven't figured out how they could pull it off without sabotaging themselves at the same time.

I'm betting Pelosi also wants Trump to be there on Nov. 3rd too for the same reason, hence I don't expect a second impeachment which at this point would be a get out of jail card for the GOP Senators.

If there is a way to expel Trump, I think it will probably happen by the end of July. After that, I figure it's Trump on Nov. 3rd.

In April, I predicted his numbers would start dipping into the thirties right about now and his aggregate deficit is now 14 points. No reason to get overconfident, but there is zero historical precedent for an incumbent to be in this kind of hole this close to the election. Plus, Biden has had and increased his lead since the end of 2019, also atypical for a challenger.

Trump is uniquely self-destructive. He didn't campaign well in 2016. He became the object of populist projections and then it was James Comey who put him over the top. He's such a dolt he doesn't have a clue about how to campaign now.

His campaign isn't even trying. Literally. They're phoning it in. I saw conjecture that everyone around Trump has so little respect for him they just lie to his face, feed him phony polling numbers and run local ads on Washington DC network affiliate stations because they know Bunker Boy will see those.

They're just raking in their last payday eating up their media buying commissions and yessing Donnie to death. I really don't think anyone around him is planning on winning. The ship is sinking and I don't think Trump has any allies left trying to help him right the ship other than Stephen Miller. They're looting Trump while they can.

If he really had anyone of any caliber left to assist him at this point there would be some glimmer of a plan. There is none. He has Jared saying let's gas the protestors and Ivanka handing him a bible from her handbag. It's like a mafia family in an old Western movie surrounded at Fort Apache.


That is true. However, you underestimate that there is an army of Republican campaign operatives backed by hundreds of millions of dollars VERY GOOD at what the do, which is microtarget voters in the electoral swing states.
Oh, and Cambridge Analytica is back helping them, but under a new name.

https://www.theregister.com/2018/05/02/cambridge_analytica_shutdown/

So, people need to understand their feel good protest votes, in the right states DO matter. The democrats need to run a really disciplined campaign where it matters (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona, MAYBE Georgia)

And hopefully they have boots on the ground getting people registered.

Oh, and I hate to sound like a d*ck (well, at least here, since I'm a semi pro d*ck on here most of the time), but NEVER underestimate how rioting and "scary black people" scare the sh*t out of many Americans, particularly older ones, and guess what? Mostly older people vote.

Also, America is a DEEPLY conservative country, in case no one has noticed. In different ways. There is sizable number of people who are DEEPLY conservative, and then, MILD conservativism runs WIDE. Now, among that 10-20% of "toss up" voters who are mainly conservative but don't mind the government "doing stuff", I think Trump's disgusting behavior is enough to swing them.

But never, ever underestimate the power of scaring the sh*t out of those people to get them to vote for some authoritarianism\racism, under the guise of law and order and national security

Wish this sh*t wasn't true, but it is.
It's not an anti protest thing, nor specifically anti riot.

But I'm wary and scared as hell Evil John Goodman will figure out how to provoke the situation to provide the scenario that warms the scared authoritarian child lurking in the hearts of a bunch of old mid westerners.

#Gaysocialistabortionmuslimscomingtogivemymoneytobrownpeople!


That's I guess the good thing about a democracy -- the long game still favors much more normal people. Trump is in love with his own ideas, delusionally, because he beat Hillary in the Electoral College. She was unpopular both before and after Trump, and he was barely was able to beat her.

So now he thinks he's a genius and everybody is a secret religious zealot or white supremacist. No.

There's no universe in which his Bible stunt or Buffalo tweet is good for his campaign. He is convinced that he has free rein -- or he just can't resist being impulsive -- and that has proven his undoing.

He is so far behind and a known quantity to voters. It's definitely unlikely but I am sure plenty of GOP would love to run somebody else. They risk losing so much, like the Senate. If Trump were a little more rational, maybe they could sell him on some type of immunity deal and just lavish praise on him and not make it like they're ousting him (which is all he really wants -- praise).
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Post#1176 » by Phish Tank » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:25 pm

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Around the corner from me is a wood shop. Guy had a pickup truck with a Trump flag on it portraying Trump as a muscle-bound superman. Ironic since Trump is such an effeminate sissy who wears high heels and a girdle to hold in his gut, but rednecks seem to think he's some kind of stud. It's weird AF.


if I was a protestor, I would have gone after those two turds.
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Post#1177 » by j4remi » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:50 pm

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if I was a protestor, I would have gone after those two turds.


Trump would be calling you an ANTIFA underboss on twitter within days. :o
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Post#1178 » by Phish Tank » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:51 pm

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Phish Tank wrote:
if I was a protestor, I would have gone after those two turds.


Trump would be calling you an ANTIFA underboss on twitter within days. :o


rather be an underboss than a tiny hand MAGAT :lol:
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Post#1179 » by Jeffrey » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:55 pm

Is it me or the new generation Italians are super right-wingers in NYC now? Looking at Staten Island, Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst.
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Post#1180 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:13 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Is it me or the new generation Italians are super right-wingers in NYC now? Looking at Staten Island, Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst.


What makes you think this is a new trend?

I'd wager the majority of their parents who actually did vote were registered Republicans. Maybe in 1975 they were more Democrat, but the last 25-30 years has seen those more tight-knit multi-generation immigrant white neighborhoods go to the GOP. That could be Italian, Polish, Irish, same basic trend.

The bridge and tunnel thing in the 80s and early 90s with Italian-American kids dropping ecstasy and dancing to techno with gay and trans club kids in horror makeup at places like The Limelight was always good for a chuckle. Those outer borough kids were still tourists though and when they went home they went back to that world and lived that life.

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