Rebounds Draft : Discussion

Post #61 » by **MadNESS** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:47 pm

Smash3 wrote:Let me know if anyone wants an assistant

You can do all my write ups :lol:

Seriously though - feel free to PM me boss

euroleague · Post #62 » by **euroleague** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:10 pm

Hakeem fell way too far. Regret not taking him over Pippen

Post #63 » by **MadNESS** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:13 pm

euroleague wrote:Hakeem fell way too far. Regret not taking him over Pippen

There aren’t many SF’s like that worth taking - I get why you did what you did

euroleague · Post #64 » by **euroleague** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:17 pm

MadNESS wrote:
euroleague wrote:Hakeem fell way too far. Regret not taking him over Pippen

There aren’t many SF’s like that worth taking - I get why you did what you did

I just liked the fit/chemistry with Rodman. Rodman had issues with DRob, so it’s good to have a guy he’ll play well with... and convince him to help on defense

My other option was Kobe/Hakeem, which would use 40 FGA on less than 20 rebounds. So, remains to be seen how this works out

Laimbeer · Post #65 » by **Laimbeer** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:04 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Had another name typed out, but I figure the amount of skill I can get out of KD with just 16.5 FGA and 8.3 RPG is pretty hard to beat

Up

Smash3 · Post #66 » by **Smash3** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:26 pm

MadNESS wrote:
Smash3 wrote:Let me know if anyone wants an assistant

You can do all my write ups

Seriously though - feel free to PM me boss

DerrickNoah · Post #67 » by **DerrickNoah** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:29 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Up

parsnips33 · Post #68 » by **parsnips33** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:09 pm

What do people think of 1999 Malone? Total non-starter? His advanced stats all look pretty elite, but I figure that might be somewhat deceiving. Just want to know what my options are realistically

Zion Wembanyama · Post #69 » by **Zion Wembanyama** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:12 pm

Jon_3232 wrote:Go time

Post #70 » by **Snakebites** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:32 pm

Curry/Duncan is a bit of a strange fit. Tough to deny the talent though.

Not sure how we let Ness get that pairing. I'd like to see what the rest of his team ends up looking like with that much spent on big men, but Hakeem/KG is pretty tough. Two bigs who can switch effectively and anchor the defense. Yikes.

Post #71 » by **MadNESS** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:34 pm

Snakebites wrote:Curry/Duncan is a bit of a strange fit. Tough to deny the talent though.

Not sure how we let Ness get that pairing. I'd like to see what the rest of his team ends up looking like with that much spent on big men, but Hakeem/KG is pretty tough. Two bigs who can switch effectively and anchor the defense. Yikes.

Everyone likes my teams in the beginning ..... then they don’t..... we will see

Laimbeer · Post #72 » by **Laimbeer** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:43 pm

I'm ahead of budget on the two positions I've selected, but still feel like I'm on the brink in terms of getting enough RPGs with each pick.

Post #73 » by **Snakebites** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:47 pm

Laimbeer wrote:I'm ahead of budget on the two positions I've selected, but still feel like I'm on the brink in terms of getting enough RPGs with each pick.

Same.

I got a center for 13 boards and scored 9 boards for my starting small forward (who might end up playing guard), and neither player exactly broke my bank either, and I'm still concerned about getting enough rebounds.

Strange game.

euroleague wrote:Feel like I’m remaking the 96 Bulls here

I mean, there's at least one player of moderate importance you'll be missing from that equation...

ardee · Post #74 » by **ardee** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:39 pm

I think 65 was probably a bit too high. For assists we did 40, which is 5 per player. Rebounds is currently at over 8 per player, I think 56-57 so 7 per player would've been better.

Post #75 » by **Snakebites** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:43 pm

ardee wrote:I think 65 was probably a bit too high. For assists we did 40, which is 5 per player. Rebounds is currently at over 8 per player, I think 56-57 so 7 per player would've been better.

I think the reasoning was that it was based on assist and rebound averages for the most recent NBA season.

And by that measure it's actually a little easier than 40 APG. Probably because there are a lot more low FGA, high rebound guys than there are low FGA, high APG guys.

ardee · Post #76 » by **ardee** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:46 pm

Snakebites wrote:
ardee wrote:I think 65 was probably a bit too high. For assists we did 40, which is 5 per player. Rebounds is currently at over 8 per player, I think 56-57 so 7 per player would've been better.

I think the reasoning was that it was based on assist and rebound averages for the most recent NBA season.

And by that measure it's actually a little easier than 40 APG. Probably because there are a lot more low FGA, high rebound guys than there are low FGA, high APG guys.

That can't be right... just looked at the 2019 season. The Bucks led the league with 49.7 RPG and the Warriors with 29.4 APG.

Post #77 » by **Snakebites** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:51 pm

ardee wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
ardee wrote:I think 65 was probably a bit too high. For assists we did 40, which is 5 per player. Rebounds is currently at over 8 per player, I think 56-57 so 7 per player would've been better.

I think the reasoning was that it was based on assist and rebound averages for the most recent NBA season.

And by that measure it's actually a little easier than 40 APG. Probably because there are a lot more low FGA, high rebound guys than there are low FGA, high APG guys.

That can't be right... just looked at the 2019 season. The Bucks led the league with 49.7 RPG and the Warriors with 29.4 APG.

Those 2 stats are distributed differently, so you really can't look at the leaders, gotta look at the average.

If you factor up the 40 assists to rebounds based on league averages in 2018-19, you get 73.5. I wanted to go higher than 65, tbh. It's a compromise.

This is what Laimbeer said in the signup thread when I questioned the number. I did not check the math myself, but there yah go.

By the way, if you calculate it as a percentage difference, what you show about the leaders works relatively too.

29.4/40 = .735

49.7/65 = .764

Which means that even if we're looking at it in terms of league leaders it's slightly easier- lower ratio = harder.

If you thought the APG was overkill, this is actually slightly easier.

I'll say it right here though: I would NOT be on board with doing this for any other stats other than rebounds and assists. Points, steals, blocks make no sense for this. All 3 pointers would do is take trends that are already happening with team building and making them more extreme.

Zion Wembanyama · Post #78 » by **Zion Wembanyama** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:41 pm

PG was going to be my pick here..

Zion Wembanyama · Post #79 » by **Zion Wembanyama** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:32 pm

Heat4lyf wrote:Go time

Odinn21 · Post #80 » by **Odinn21** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:11 pm

Snakebites wrote:This is what Laimbeer said in the signup thread when I questioned the number. I did not check the math myself, but there yah go.

By the way, if you calculate it as a percentage difference, what you show about the leaders works relatively too.

29.4/40 = .735

49.7/65 = .764

Which means that even if we're looking at it in terms of league leaders it's slightly easier- lower ratio = harder.

If you thought the APG was overkill, this is actually slightly easier.

I'll say it right here though: I would NOT be on board with doing this for any other stats other than rebounds and assists. Points, steals, blocks make no sense for this. All 3 pointers would do is take trends that are already happening with team building and making them more extreme.

I think 70+ rpg was a certain overkill. I looked at the numbers, and the league has averaged 43.1 rpg and 23.4 apg since the merger. Equivalent of 40.0 apg would be 73.7 rpg. But player pool is similar with 65 rpg right now.

There are 311 different players that had at least one 5+ apg season.
There are 324 different players that had at least one 8+ rpg season.

Having a high rebound big on the bench makes it slightly easier. It's not that hard to get a 8+ or even 10/11+ rpg player for the bench.

I'd agree, 65 rpg is slightly easier. But it's not an overkill or easy task.