Catchall wrote: vryadli wrote:
Catchall wrote:I'm going to be honest here. Two weeks ago, we were outraged at continued instances of police brutality against black people. Everyone agrees that this is unacceptable, criminal behavior on the part of police officers.
And now, two weeks later, it seems that cultural marxists and 'antifa' mobs want to tear down statues all over the country, including figures like Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson and Theodore Roosevelt.
Did I miss something?
Can I ask how do you define "cultural marxists"?
Marxism/Leninism advocates for destroying traditional culture, destroying national patriotism, destroying the family unit, destroying religion, and eliminating private property--all things that would stand in the way of the populace becoming loyal first and foremost to a central, communist state. Mobs and rioters, who are comprised of angry and disenfranchised members of the underclasses, serve as 'useful idiots' who are employed to carry out the destruction of the status quo, while being led by a class of so-called "progressive" intellectuals.
Spoiler alert: It doesn't work, but it does incite a lot of violence.
What's taking place in Seattle isn't about protecting black people from incompetent police. It's about lashing out at the establishment and trying to remove law and order. Antifa has been around for more than 30 years all over the world. They're basically a mob of angry anarchists who wear black and like to smash things. They're using the anger and the protests against police brutality as cover to attack the monuments.
Hm... how do you manage to to fit in one diatribe a central,
and "mobs and rioters"? Isn't it kind of two much opposite?
...as far as I can tell your monster is a hybrid of at least 3 distinct left ideologies ("mob of angry anarchists" - that part you got right)', none of them is directly related to Marx or Lenin. If you like not essence by name that's Freud , Trotsky and Bakunin. I'm not sure who has to personify hippies, but I can assure you that they also have nothing in common with serious socialist views (spoiler: those are view about natural social progress, progress (surprise!) based on hard work and scientifically oriented education - and strongly disapprove mob and riots in DEMOCRATIC state) .
I also can inform you that Thomas Jefferson and Theodore Roosevelt are quite popular among non-marginal socialists, as they considered being progressive for their own times and situations.
And as for family, starting from second half of XX the Soviet families were way more traditional, than American - with only exception that man and women had about equal rights.
I think I skip topic of "traditional culture" and "modern art".
I wrote it just to has pure conscience... in case, you know, somebody cheated you on the matters - but truth and reality matters for you... but in the other case, if you are more comfy with your straw man, then just disregard my post.
(Don't get me wrong, USSR was very ugly state, it has no democracy, no freedom of speech and was ten times more corrupted from top to the bottom than USA. but those crimes and vices tare rather opposite to those of USA left marginals... it's kind of like leprosy versus plague)