Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Rule changes vote on page one

[Capn'O]

We dont even know which player will have his development stunted by the Knicks IRL...

Knicks hired Walt Perrin who was responsible for Utah drafting Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Gordon Hayward, etc. So I wouldn’t bet on the Knicks screwing up things. Our new FO looks promising.

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...

If this game has confirmed one thing for me it's that the Knicks need to be better at asset management. Their biggest deficiency imo is identifying young players with growth potential and committing to them long term. Not just in terms of the draft. You don't necessarily need to keep those players but you need to have bargain longer term contracts to get high level value in trades. Or to keep. It's not always the primary strategy to take but when you're bad it's the way to get out of the mire.

I hope this group moves the Knicks away from that Kick the Can ****. If they don't, it's pretty clear that Dolan will truly never change because I KNOW they have the knowhow now. And, subsequently, the Knicks will continue not to get better.

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Knicks hired Walt Perrin who was responsible for Utah drafting Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Gordon Hayward, etc. So I wouldn’t bet on the Knicks screwing up things. Our new FO looks promising.

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...

If this game has confirmed one thing for me it's that the Knicks need to be better at asset management. Their biggest deficiency imo is identifying young players with growth potential and committing to them long term. Not just in terms of the draft. You don't necessarily need to keep those players but you need to have bargain longer term contracts to get high level value in trades. Or to keep.

I hope this group moves the Knicks away from that Kick the Can ****. If they don't, it's pretty clear that Dolan will truly never change because I KNOW they have the knowhow now. And, subsequently, the Knicks will continue not to get better.

its funny because you talked about an important aspect of running a team that we have done a terrible job at and I agree
with you...I'm just more concern Cap with what it really could be...
You ever meet or know a person that no matter what they do -it just doesnt work for them?

[bringbackhoffa]

We dont even know which player will have his development stunted by the Knicks IRL...

Knicks hired Walt Perrin who was responsible for Utah drafting Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Gordon Hayward, etc. So I wouldn’t bet on the Knicks screwing up things. Our new FO looks promising.

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...

Imagine Morant instead of RJ..but given you had Frank pretty sure you would of passed on him as well even if you had #2 pick..

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Knicks hired Walt Perrin who was responsible for Utah drafting Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Gordon Hayward, etc. So I wouldn’t bet on the Knicks screwing up things. Our new FO looks promising.

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...

Imagine Morant instead of RJ..but given you had Frank pretty sure you would of passed on him as well even if you had #2 pick..

i had Morant ahead of zion - so no- I wouldnt have passed on him for anyone Hoff...

[bringbackhoffa]

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...

Imagine Morant instead of RJ..but given you had Frank pretty sure you would of passed on him as well even if you had #2 pick..

i had Morant ahead of zion - so no- I wouldnt have passed on him for anyone Hoff...

but would Perry and Mills have?

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Imagine Morant instead of RJ..but given you had Frank pretty sure you would of passed on him as well even if you had #2 pick..

i had Morant ahead of zion - so no- I wouldnt have passed on him for anyone Hoff...

but would Perry and Mills have?

good question hoff

[mpharris36]

Imagine Morant instead of RJ..but given you had Frank pretty sure you would of passed on him as well even if you had #2 pick..

i had Morant ahead of zion - so no- I wouldnt have passed on him for anyone Hoff...

but would Perry and Mills have?

I would still take Zion over Morant

[Capn'O]

i had Morant ahead of zion - so no- I wouldnt have passed on him for anyone Hoff...

but would Perry and Mills have?

I would still take Zion over Morant

This is where I'm at. Morant was the clear #2 prospect. Could end up with the best career too, particularly if Zion succumbs to injury.

The way I read it, the Knicks had RJ at 2. Could be wrong but there was a lot of smoke around RJ from our camp.

[Capn'O]

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...

If this game has confirmed one thing for me it's that the Knicks need to be better at asset management. Their biggest deficiency imo is identifying young players with growth potential and committing to them long term. Not just in terms of the draft. You don't necessarily need to keep those players but you need to have bargain longer term contracts to get high level value in trades. Or to keep.

I hope this group moves the Knicks away from that Kick the Can ****. If they don't, it's pretty clear that Dolan will truly never change because I KNOW they have the knowhow now. And, subsequently, the Knicks will continue not to get better.

its funny because you talked about an important aspect of running a team that we have done a terrible job at and I agree
with you...I'm just more concern Cap with what it really could be...
You ever meet or know a person that no matter what they do -it just doesnt work for them?

I do. But in our case we just haven't tried a route of long term commitments to young players and that's what has worked for every team that has pulled themselves back up. Even the Lakers, who moved them all for AD, built up a base over the course of several years.

[King of Canada]

Knicks hired Walt Perrin who was responsible for Utah drafting Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Gordon Hayward, etc. So I wouldn’t bet on the Knicks screwing up things. Our new FO looks promising.

if we some how mange to remain a terrible organization after 3 years- then i will believe dolan
must sell in order for our direction to change...

Imagine Morant instead of RJ..but given you had Frank pretty sure you would of passed on him as well even if you had #2 pick..

Knicks wouldn't have passed on Morant because of Frank. Hell, this year they're still hoping to land a pg.

[Context]

If this game has confirmed one thing for me it's that the Knicks need to be better at asset management. Their biggest deficiency imo is identifying young players with growth potential and committing to them long term. Not just in terms of the draft. You don't necessarily need to keep those players but you need to have bargain longer term contracts to get high level value in trades. Or to keep.

I hope this group moves the Knicks away from that Kick the Can ****. If they don't, it's pretty clear that Dolan will truly never change because I KNOW they have the knowhow now. And, subsequently, the Knicks will continue not to get better.

its funny because you talked about an important aspect of running a team that we have done a terrible job at and I agree
with you...I'm just more concern Cap with what it really could be...
You ever meet or know a person that no matter what they do -it just doesnt work for them?

I do. But in our case we just haven't tried a route of long term commitments to young players and that's what has worked for every team that has pulled themselves back up. Even the Lakers, who moved them all for AD, built up a base over the course of several years.

i dont have a feeling of certainty regarding this- i just think it could be a situation where dolan has such a mental hang up over his failures with the knicks that he may never over come it...

[DOT]

Garland > Ja

[3toheadmelo]

Garland > Ja

[mpharris36]

Garland > Ja

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i had Morant ahead of zion - so no- I wouldnt have passed on him for anyone Hoff...

but would Perry and Mills have?

I would still take Zion over Morant

i hear you...so would most...I just think his weight will catch up to him and he doesnt possess the it factor that morant has...

[King of Canada]

Garland > Ja

Ja Rule?

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Garland > Ja

nice troll job by you two btw

I was sold

[mpharris36]

but would Perry and Mills have?

I would still take Zion over Morant

i hear you...so would most...I just think his weight will catch up to him and he doesnt possess the it factor that morant has...

anyone that can avg 24 pts as a rookie on 15 shots per game possesses an IT factor for me

[mpharris36]

Garland > Ja

nice troll job by you two btw

I was sold

[Capn'O]

I would still take Zion over Morant

i hear you...so would most...I just think his weight will catch up to him and he doesnt possess the it factor that morant has...

anyone that can avg 24 pts as a rookie on 15 shots per game possesses an IT factor for me

He's a straight up monster.

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