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Re: NBA - The Re-Open: - Bled positive, asymptomatic 

Post#1781 » by step3profit » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:01 pm

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Except no one knows what the long term effects are on your cardiovascular system, for example.

A tri teammate of mine got it about 2 months ago symptom free. He’s still running 10 mile splits at a 7:40 pace and biking 80 miles at a 21 mph speed. Short term no affects. I guess long term who knows

Long term everyone dies.


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Post#1782 » by SkilesTheLimit » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:03 pm

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Yup

No home court advantage is a definite factor. But who you're matched up with in the playoffs does matter.


Of course it does BUT like I’ve said the team isn’t going from 4 months off to playoffs ready in 2 weeks so I don’t want to see Giannis playing 40 minutes doing everything himself to win what amounts to an exhibition game. That’s how players get hurt. Like I’ve brought up before, remember Dorsey Levens hold out and then signing a contract and the team saying he’s kept himself in great shape so we are just going to throw him into the next game and he breaks his freaking leg. We need the whole team to win a championship and it’s going to take time, reps, practice and patience so if we win a few games and get the matchup we want great but I’ll be happier with 20 minutes of solid execution by the starters per game and everyone getting thru it healthy.

I’m saying win at what cost


You do not want to see Giannis playing 40 minutes, I agree. However, you can't play him 15-20 minutes every game and not anticipate him being winded when he's now asked to play 38-40 minutes vs. the Sixers/Raptors/Celtics in the second round or ECF. You have to have a plan to ramp up minutes and maybe that comes in the first round match-up where you can possibly play him in the low 30s and still win handily.
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Re: NBA - The Re-Open: - Bled positive, asymptomatic 

Post#1783 » by Badgerlander » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:09 pm

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steger_3434 wrote:A tri teammate of mine got it about 2 months ago symptom free. He’s still running 10 mile splits at a 7:40 pace and biking 80 miles at a 21 mph speed. Short term no affects. I guess long term who knows

Long term everyone dies.


Citation please


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Post#1784 » by BucksFanSD » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:54 pm

Here's hoping Bled is able to taste the championship.
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Post#1785 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:22 pm

Lowe on the Bucks' most interesting lineup:

Giannis Antetokounmpo at center: 260 minutes, plus-140 (L-O-L)

Maybe the Bucks won't need this tool. Maybe they won't face an opponent who punishes their drop-back defense -- centered in most lineups by a Lopez brother -- with pull-up 3s and pick-and-pops. Toronto busted through in last season's conference finals, but the main driver of that is now a Clipper.

Brook Lopez has gotten better scurrying around the arc. No Eastern Conference contender has a pick-and-pop center that strikes fear into the Bucks.

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But Marc Gasol -- 40% from deep -- comes close, and still screens for Kyle Lowry and Fred VanVleet. Boston is perhaps the league's best pull-up jump-shooting team, with Kemba Walker and Jayson Tatum raining fire. They are sitting on a centerless lineup that could stretch Lopez thin: Walker, Tatum, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown. (In fairness, Lopez has squashed little guys in the post on the other end when opponents go small.)

Most Antetokounmpo-at-center lineups trend small, with Khris Middleton as nominal power forward. (I'm not counting groups featuring Ersan Ilyasova.) That's why Milwaukee's February acquisition of Marvin Williams intrigued: Were they adding size to these lineups without sacrificing speed (as they do with Ilyasova)?

The touchstone of Milwaukee's offense is the same regardless of lineup configuration: Antetokounmpo and shooting. But without Lopez, the Bucks amp up the pace and use more varied screening combinations. Antetokounmpo sets 15 ball screens per 100 possessions with Lopez on the floor, and 22 in centerless groups, per Second Spectrum. Also: Lopez has hit just 29.6% from deep this season. Williams is at 36%, and has drained at least 43% on corner 3s in four of the past six seasons. Guess where Mike Budenholzer likes to put him?

The centerless Bucks might have Kyle Korver or some other shooter screen for Antetokounmpo, and fly into open space:


They might pair two shaky shooters (Eric Bledsoe and Antetokounmpo) or their two best players (Antetokounmpo and Middleton) in pick-and-rolls.


When defenses adjust, the Bucks hunt the weak link elsewhere.

Interestingly, these lineups have lived at the rim. About 42% of their shots have come at the basket, a share that would lead all teams, per Cleaning The Glass. They generate heaps of free throws and offensive rebounds -- unusual for the Bucks. Basically, they are smaller lineups that play like bigger ones thanks to speed and spacing. They haven't sacrificed anything on the defensive glass, perhaps because opponents downsize too.

Smart defenses will barricade those paths to the rim by abandoning Milwaukee's weakest shooter -- as the Heat do against Donte DiVincenzo (34% on 3s) below:


The Raptors ignored Bledsoe. Against the best competition, Milwaukee might want to minimize the time Antetokounmpo plays with two or more of its so-so shooters. These lineups represent one pathway there.
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Post#1786 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:26 pm



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Post#1787 » by Badgerlander » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:34 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Lowe on the Bucks' most interesting lineup:

Giannis Antetokounmpo at center: 260 minutes, plus-140 (L-O-L)

Maybe the Bucks won't need this tool. Maybe they won't face an opponent who punishes their drop-back defense -- centered in most lineups by a Lopez brother -- with pull-up 3s and pick-and-pops. Toronto busted through in last season's conference finals, but the main driver of that is now a Clipper.

Brook Lopez has gotten better scurrying around the arc. No Eastern Conference contender has a pick-and-pop center that strikes fear into the Bucks.

The NBA returns in July

The NBA and NBPA have officially approved the details of the season restart, with seeding games tipping off July 30 at Walt Disney World.

• How the Orlando bubble will work
• Team-by-team preview
• 12 most important games
• NBA forecast predictions

But Marc Gasol -- 40% from deep -- comes close, and still screens for Kyle Lowry and Fred VanVleet. Boston is perhaps the league's best pull-up jump-shooting team, with Kemba Walker and Jayson Tatum raining fire. They are sitting on a centerless lineup that could stretch Lopez thin: Walker, Tatum, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown. (In fairness, Lopez has squashed little guys in the post on the other end when opponents go small.)

Most Antetokounmpo-at-center lineups trend small, with Khris Middleton as nominal power forward. (I'm not counting groups featuring Ersan Ilyasova.) That's why Milwaukee's February acquisition of Marvin Williams intrigued: Were they adding size to these lineups without sacrificing speed (as they do with Ilyasova)?

The touchstone of Milwaukee's offense is the same regardless of lineup configuration: Antetokounmpo and shooting. But without Lopez, the Bucks amp up the pace and use more varied screening combinations. Antetokounmpo sets 15 ball screens per 100 possessions with Lopez on the floor, and 22 in centerless groups, per Second Spectrum. Also: Lopez has hit just 29.6% from deep this season. Williams is at 36%, and has drained at least 43% on corner 3s in four of the past six seasons. Guess where Mike Budenholzer likes to put him?

The centerless Bucks might have Kyle Korver or some other shooter screen for Antetokounmpo, and fly into open space:


They might pair two shaky shooters (Eric Bledsoe and Antetokounmpo) or their two best players (Antetokounmpo and Middleton) in pick-and-rolls.


When defenses adjust, the Bucks hunt the weak link elsewhere.

Interestingly, these lineups have lived at the rim. About 42% of their shots have come at the basket, a share that would lead all teams, per Cleaning The Glass. They generate heaps of free throws and offensive rebounds -- unusual for the Bucks. Basically, they are smaller lineups that play like bigger ones thanks to speed and spacing. They haven't sacrificed anything on the defensive glass, perhaps because opponents downsize too.

Smart defenses will barricade those paths to the rim by abandoning Milwaukee's weakest shooter -- as the Heat do against Donte DiVincenzo (34% on 3s) below:


The Raptors ignored Bledsoe. Against the best competition, Milwaukee might want to minimize the time Antetokounmpo plays with two or more of its so-so shooters. These lineups represent one pathway there.


I mean the Joker lost weight and Gasol did too, but Brook is eating Mickey bars, lol, a bold strategy Cotton
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Post#1788 » by emunney » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:45 pm

Would love to see teams abandon guarding Donte in the playoffs.
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Post#1789 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:47 pm

Lol, would love to see Jaylen Brown attempt to play Center and get squashed by BroLo or Giannis. Celtics will have officially taken the "Small-ball" trend to it's most illogical conclusion.
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Post#1790 » by StickeeFingaz » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:54 pm

After consuming every piece of NBA related audio I could find over the past two weeks, my general observation is that most media members are attempting to put a positive spin on all other Eastern conference contenders, while trying to poke holes in the Bucks' resume.
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Post#1791 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:16 pm

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Post#1792 » by LuessiT » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:18 pm

I mean Giannis at center is going small without giving up anything on both ends. It's an obvious conclusion regarding the small ball movement.

On offense you get all the advantages of going small as well as the ability to punish opposing teams adjusting to your lineup by posting up their tiny center.

On defense you have one of the best rim protectors and help defenders at center. A center that can switch on guards. One of the best rebounders in the game. And every rebound is a fastbreak opportunity.

The only problem with Giannis at center is that then you can't play Giannis at power forward. If we can find enough guys to surround Giannis with when he plays center the Bucks have another gear ready to be unlocked. I feel like the roster could really use a forward DDV version - hoping for Millsap to be that guy.
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Post#1793 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:22 pm

Marvin is a pretty nice option to have at PF. Thinking he'll be very valuable.
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Post#1794 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:31 pm

Zach Lowe has hated Ilyasova for years in a way that’s always baffled me. At one point he even kinda attacked his character on his podcast saying something along the lines of “Teams are always excited to acquire Ersan Ilyasova until he starts missing all his threes and they find out he’s kind of a blah personality.”
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Post#1795 » by emunney » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:22 pm

Please let the Nets and Knicks hire Mark Jackson and Jason Kidd.
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Post#1796 » by Profound23 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:30 pm

2 more weeks......I'm cautiously optimistic. I can't wait.
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Post#1797 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:47 pm

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Post#1798 » by Badgerlander » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:16 pm

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Post#1799 » by midranger » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:30 pm

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Post#1800 » by chonestown » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:29 pm

Wes totally discovered Graham Central Station sometime between March and now.

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