ImageImageImageImageImage

Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?)

Moderator: JaysRule15

Fairview4Life
RealGM
Posts: 69,938
And1: 33,792
Joined: Jul 25, 2005
     

Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#1 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Aug 7, 2020 11:48 pm

Christ, Vladdy grounding out every at bat is frustrating.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
Fairview4Life
RealGM
Posts: 69,938
And1: 33,792
Joined: Jul 25, 2005
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#2 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Aug 7, 2020 11:50 pm

Let’s see if Roark can last an inning.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
Scott Hall
RealGM
Posts: 23,518
And1: 62,706
Joined: May 04, 2015
Location: T-Dot
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#3 » by Scott Hall » Sat Aug 8, 2020 12:37 am

Read on Twitter
User avatar
Lateral Quicks
RealGM
Posts: 20,531
And1: 16,665
Joined: Dec 05, 2002
   

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#4 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Aug 8, 2020 1:12 am

Scott Hall wrote:
Read on Twitter


Not going to lie, that made me laugh. But at the same time, that was a pretty bush league move by the Braves. The kid made a mistake - shouldn't have to have it haunt him the rest of his life.
Nick Nurse recounting his first meeting with Kawhi:
“We could have gone forever. (Raptors management) kept knocking on the door and I was like, ‘A couple more minutes.’ Because we were really into it."
User avatar
Natural11
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,193
And1: 2,801
Joined: Nov 27, 2008

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#5 » by Natural11 » Sat Aug 8, 2020 3:46 am

I didn't expect the offense to be so pathetic. It's hard to put runs up without a couple of big bats in the 3-4 spots and evidently Tellez and Guerrero are not it.
GameChannel
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,344
And1: 1,185
Joined: Apr 17, 2010

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#6 » by GameChannel » Sat Aug 8, 2020 3:55 am

Natural11 wrote:I didn't expect the offense to be so pathetic. It's hard to put runs up without a couple of big bats in the 3-4 sports and evidently Tellez and Guerrero are not it.


Its sad state of affairs when Tellez has been marginally better of the two. Vladdy has been a bust.
polo007
General Manager
Posts: 9,320
And1: 3,016
Joined: Nov 02, 2006

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#7 » by polo007 » Sat Aug 8, 2020 9:21 pm

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter
User avatar
Schad
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 58,409
And1: 17,939
Joined: Feb 08, 2006
Location: The Goat Rodeo
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#8 » by Schad » Sat Aug 8, 2020 10:04 pm

Must admit that I understand this lineup even less than the one before it. Vlad has started to have good PAs in the last few games, so he gets dropped to sixth. 0 for 2 with 2 walks is enough to drop Tellez from 4th to 8th. Lineups aren't that important in the grand scheme (you want to maximize the number of PAs your good hitters receive, but it's not a huge number), but Montoyo's are just weird.
Image
**** your asterisk.
Fairview4Life
RealGM
Posts: 69,938
And1: 33,792
Joined: Jul 25, 2005
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#9 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Aug 8, 2020 10:14 pm

Schad wrote:Must admit that I understand this lineup even less than the one before it. Vlad has started to have good PAs in the last few games, so he gets dropped to sixth. 0 for 2 with 2 walks is enough to drop Tellez from 4th to 8th. Lineups aren't that important in the grand scheme (you want to maximize the number of PAs your good hitters receive, but it's not a huge number), but Montoyo's are just weird.


Gotta look like you’re doing something.

I miss Gibby.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
User avatar
Schad
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 58,409
And1: 17,939
Joined: Feb 08, 2006
Location: The Goat Rodeo
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#10 » by Schad » Sat Aug 8, 2020 10:26 pm

The strange thing is that, as best I can tell, part of his goal is to get a left-hander of some variety in the middle of the order to break up the righties.

Our RHB have a better OPS against RHP than our LHB do right now.
Image
**** your asterisk.
HangTime
Head Coach
Posts: 6,292
And1: 4,288
Joined: Oct 18, 2011

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#11 » by HangTime » Sat Aug 8, 2020 11:01 pm

I would want Montoya to try this lineup.


1) Hernandez
2) Biggio
3) Gurriel Jr.
4) Bichette
5) Guerrero Jr.
6) Shaw
7) Jansen
8) Grichuk
9) Tellez
User avatar
Schad
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 58,409
And1: 17,939
Joined: Feb 08, 2006
Location: The Goat Rodeo
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#12 » by Schad » Sun Aug 9, 2020 1:18 am

Kay's sitting 95-96 today and his curveball looks fairly snappy.
Image
**** your asterisk.
User avatar
Natural11
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,193
And1: 2,801
Joined: Nov 27, 2008

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#13 » by Natural11 » Sun Aug 9, 2020 1:29 am

These base running mistakes are painful to watch with the team already struggling to do anything offensively.
User avatar
Schad
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 58,409
And1: 17,939
Joined: Feb 08, 2006
Location: The Goat Rodeo
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#14 » by Schad » Sun Aug 9, 2020 1:34 am

Small note about Vlad: while his launch angle still sucks, his hard-hit rate and exit velo are up, and both were already pretty good last year. He entered today in the 88th percentile in average exit velocity, and 77th percentile in hard-hit.

He doesn't even need to hit moonshots. If he can merely hit the ball with a league-average launch angle, we'll be able to drop all of this "is Vlad really a good prospect" stuff.
Image
**** your asterisk.
User avatar
carnage24
Junior
Posts: 334
And1: 470
Joined: Dec 12, 2013
 

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#15 » by carnage24 » Sun Aug 9, 2020 1:45 am

man this team is awful
Scott Hall
RealGM
Posts: 23,518
And1: 62,706
Joined: May 04, 2015
Location: T-Dot
     

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#16 » by Scott Hall » Sun Aug 9, 2020 3:30 am

Read on Twitter
johanliebert
RealGM
Posts: 10,459
And1: 5,990
Joined: Jun 16, 2015
 

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#17 » by johanliebert » Sun Aug 9, 2020 5:47 pm

Lol shoemaker better pitch more than 5 innings
vaff87
RealGM
Posts: 23,778
And1: 70,875
Joined: Oct 22, 2003
         

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#18 » by vaff87 » Sun Aug 9, 2020 8:08 pm

Hatch, Borucki, and Kay all look terrific right now.
polo007
General Manager
Posts: 9,320
And1: 3,016
Joined: Nov 02, 2006

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#19 » by polo007 » Sun Aug 9, 2020 8:28 pm

Read on Twitter
User avatar
Trilogy
RealGM
Posts: 16,650
And1: 3,589
Joined: Oct 13, 2005

Re: Jays vs Red Sox August 7-9(?) 

Post#20 » by Trilogy » Sun Aug 9, 2020 9:22 pm

It's too bad Hatch gave that up but the biggest positive to me so far has been how good the Kay/Borucki/Hatch trio has looked. Latter is having some issues with command a bit but the non-Pearson young pitchers looking this good is a huge thing going forward. Small sample of course.

It's kind of nuts considering how relatively bad things looked on the pitching side just 1 year ago.

Return to Toronto Blue Jays


cron