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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#321 » by clyde21 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm

Giannis frame is not small what are you guys talking about, even as a rook you can tell he had a strong wiry frame that can easily put on more weight, also Giannis has that natural wiry strength that Poku doesn't have

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Post#322 » by EvanZ » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:42 pm

Just remember his first name rhymes with his last name.
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Post#323 » by EvanZ » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:45 pm

I mean Giannis definitely had wiry strength but jesus...if you told me he'd turn into this, I'd have not believed you. :lol:

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Post#324 » by EvanZ » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:49 pm

Lower body Poku is actually pretty thick compared to Giannis.

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Post#325 » by Catchall » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:50 pm

Sicnarf wrote:Do you think Poku could benefit from having kinda a Combine or private Workouts with teams in the bubble?


Sure, no one has seen what he looks like playing against NBA or near-NBA competition.
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Post#326 » by Catchall » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:53 pm

EvanZ wrote:Lower body Poku is actually pretty thick compared to Giannis.

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Poku does have a solid base and very light upper body. Andrei Kirilenko was similar. You'd never believe that AK weighed 235 lbs just by looking at him, but he had strong legs. It's one of the reasons he didn't have too many injury issues during his career.

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Post#327 » by Stillwater » Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:22 pm

In this draft even though his floor is in the oasis of death valley, I can buy that the ceiling is worth the risk after the top 5.
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#328 » by Euphonetiks » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:12 pm

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clyde21 wrote:KD couldn't even do a single rep of 135 at the combine, it's irrelevant

core strength/balance is a lot more important than upper body strength in this sport


I think it's more like 165 lbs. TMac had a hard time with it too.


NBA Combine uses 185 lbs. Arm length plays a huge role in bench.
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Post#329 » by Revenged25 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:11 pm

EvanZ wrote:I mean Giannis definitely had wiry strength but jesus...if you told me he'd turn into this, I'd have not believed you. :lol:

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Even the dude's face put on muscle.
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Post#330 » by EvanZ » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:21 pm

Even his hair put on muscle.
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Post#331 » by Stillwater » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:02 am

Yeah this Giannis reminder just gives me more hope for Jalen Stix Smith filling out
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#332 » by EvanZ » Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:46 am

Stillwater wrote:Yeah this Giannis reminder just gives me more hope for Jalen Stix Smith filling out


On the list of things worry about, this doesn't seem to be it. I think with him you have to hope he doesn't fill out much more and lose whatever mobility he has now.

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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#333 » by Mirotic12 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:31 am

clyde21 wrote:Giannis frame is not small what are you guys talking about, even as a rook you can tell he had a strong wiry frame that can easily put on more weight, also Giannis has that natural wiry strength that Poku doesn't have

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That's most definitely a small frame. In particular, a quite small chest and shoulders.
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#334 » by Klomp » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:56 am

I think some people are getting confused, maybe it's a language barrier thing I don't know. I think when most people talk about a small frame in terms of scouting, they're saying it's a narrow frame. Poku has a narrow frame, Giannis did not.
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#335 » by babyjax13 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:07 am

Catchall wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Lower body Poku is actually pretty thick compared to Giannis.

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Poku does have a solid base and very light upper body. Andrei Kirilenko was similar. You'd never believe that AK weighed 235 lbs just by looking at him, but he had strong legs. It's one of the reasons he didn't have too many injury issues during his career.

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Not sure if this was tongue in cheek, Andrei was injured pretty frequently...he only played over 72 games in his first three seasons, played 72 in 07-08, and 70 in 06-07.
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#336 » by Mirotic12 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:55 am

Klomp wrote:I think some people are getting confused, maybe it's a language barrier thing I don't know. I think when most people talk about a small frame in terms of scouting, they're saying it's a narrow frame. Poku has a narrow frame, Giannis did not.


Giannis has a small chest and small shoulders. Even now, he has a small chest and small shoulders. He also has small legs, even now. I really don't see how he has anything but a small frame under any definition, if we are talking about size in relation.

If you mean as compared to any man, since he is 6-11, then of course he has a large frame, because he's 6-11 and in proportion. if you are talking about as compared to an average frame for a 6-11 tall man, then Giannis without any doubt whatsoever, has a small frame - even right now, he has a small frame compared to a typical 7 footer.
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#337 » by No-Man » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:20 am

Giannis def has a narrow-ish frame, he is super well built now but is an ectomorph
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#338 » by Stillwater » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:14 pm

EvanZ wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Yeah this Giannis reminder just gives me more hope for Jalen Stix Smith filling out


On the list of things worry about, this doesn't seem to be it. I think with him you have to hope he doesn't fill out much more and lose whatever mobility he has now.

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Its the lower body that needs work but you do make a valid point...
He needs to be more fluid in the hips when switching so he doesnt get burned so maybe some fn yoga or a month training with Tony Jaa would solve it.
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#339 » by patman66 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:46 pm

EvanZ wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Yeah this Giannis reminder just gives me more hope for Jalen Stix Smith filling out


On the list of things worry about, this doesn't seem to be it. I think with him you have to hope he doesn't fill out much more and lose whatever mobility he has now.

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my take also, he just needs some ump, a little more drive.
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Re: Aleksej Pokusevski 

Post#340 » by patman66 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:49 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Clem wrote:With boston having 3 1st. Rd. Picks the celtics will be at least looking at 1 maybe 2 draft and stash players poku makes more sense going to the celtics


Poku is not getting stashed


if he goes to the celts, I think he will. If he goes to the bucks later, I think he will.

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