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Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Prok, I'm totally with you on being skeptical that we will see this level of play from LeVert full time going forward.
However, comparing him to Marquis Teague is really bad bro. Come on man
We know that LeVert can ball. Can he stay healthy? be consistent? become more efficient? these are valid concerns.
But Marquis Teague
He isnt Marquis teague. Marquis teague is a scrub. my point was people need to stop demanding he is an efficient scorer while post efficiency similar to what marquis teague posted.
I'm actually a levert fan. im the guy defending him when many hated him early on because they were pissed we traded thad young and levert turned it over a ton early.
the guy is an excellent role player, can step up for stretches, great teammate, and does have potential if healthy. but people put him on this pedestal as some fringe all-star and untraceable asset. which is tough to defend when the guys scores 18 points on 16 shots with a 51 TS%.
Levert would get a ton more universal love here if people didnt homer stan him like he is comporable to like siakim or tatum or one of the actual young all-star types
GTR11 wrote:?s=20
The fact that LeVert benefiting right now with little tweaks in our style of play don't seem to be well comprehended among few. Take a look at his shot selections.
Papi_swav wrote:
We literally seen Levert lead this team , with 5 d league players as you like to call them, to probably the best run we've had all season. I just don't know how that doesn't excite you. Who would you rather us get for himm other than Beal or Jrue?
Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Prok, I'm totally with you on being skeptical that we will see this level of play from LeVert full time going forward.
However, comparing him to Marquis Teague is really bad bro. Come on man
We know that LeVert can ball. Can he stay healthy? be consistent? become more efficient? these are valid concerns.
But Marquis Teague
He isnt Marquis teague. Marquis teague is a scrub. my point was people need to stop demanding he is an efficient scorer while post efficiency similar to what marquis teague posted.
I'm actually a levert fan. im the guy defending him when many hated him early on because they were pissed we traded thad young and levert turned it over a ton early.
the guy is an excellent role player, can step up for stretches, great teammate, and does have potential if healthy. but people put him on this pedestal as some fringe all-star and untraceable asset. which is tough to defend when the guys scores 18 points on 16 shots with a 51 TS%.
Levert would get a ton more universal love here if people didnt homer stan him like he is comporable to like siakim or tatum or one of the actual young all-star types
No one's denying that Levert hasn't improved certain aspects of his game. But right now, we're seeing everything go through Levert, and all of the work is on high usage, primary ballhandling duties. There's nothing there to tell me that this will work next to Kyrie & KD.GTR11 wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:DarkXaero wrote:This 100%. Seriously, I don't get it, its been pointed out for like the last 4 game threads. Why is there so much insecurity? Everyone is (rightfully) praising Levert in the game thread for a great performance, and no one has mentioned anything about trade value or anything. As fans of the same team, do you think that it kills me inside every time Levert has a great game, just because of the silly arguments here? I don't feel the need to say "I told you so" every single time, and I don't know why these guys do either, when it has no place in the game thread. Nothing would make me happier to see a guy we drafted at the start of the Marks era to become the third star to our two established stars, and bring a championship to Brooklyn. This isn't a competition, my guy.
Its not about saying I told you so.
Its about dispelling a silly myth you guys keep spreading about LeVert being an "inefficient player" and not capable of being a Third Star. Hes proven it time and time again when healthy. Hes just has had injury problems.
The narrative is dying and now.
at this point you just rubbing it in. He refusing to admit the fact LeVert taking it to another level. I'm hard on Allen but if he'll show me something during this PO series I'll have to reconsider a lot of things and direction we should take.
Let him be, he's in denial right now. Doing best Prok impersonation.
MGrand15 wrote:I was impressed by how we handled Portland's bigs. I thought we were going to get blown out because of their size. We got kinda lucky with our schedule and didn't have to deal with bigs that could destroy us inside. Our bench - with Rodi in foul trouble + possibly on a minutes limit since he hasn't gotten any rest - was just too small. But when all of our guys were in - Rodi and JA were battling and holding their own.
Collins did absolutely nothing. JV went with a weird strategy to put our PF on whoever their center was. I'm guessing it was to slow down the Dame/Nurk PNR and bait Portland into throwing it down into the low post. Worked pretty damn well until we had to start trapping Dame at half court.
I like the creativity though. I was worried that when Kenny left that JV would go with a more traditional way of defending. Starting in the bubble, we really stuck to man to man and switching a lot. Recently, we've played weird zones, trapped full court a bit, trapped Dame. I like it.
Toronto is pretty damn big with Siakam, Gasol, and Ibaka. Their guards are good enough so we can't let those bigs just feast inside. This was a good test. Scoring on them is gonna be a huge problem but if we can keep their front court in check, we should be able to compete.
Prokorov wrote:Papi_swav wrote:
I would like to know who are the guys rumored in a trade that does this type play over an entire season other than Beal.
We literally seen Levert lead this team , with 5 d league players as you like to call them, to probably the best run we've had all season. I just don't know how that doesn't excite you. Who would you rather us get for himm other than Beal or Jrue?
MrDollarBills wrote:GTR11 wrote:?s=20
The fact that LeVert benefiting right now with little tweaks in our style of play don't seem to be well comprehended among few. Take a look at his shot selections.
He looks unstoppable in the mid range.
Claud wrote:Reading the same people trash on Caris time and time again gets tiring af.
We get it, we've read the same thing for the last 3 years.
There's nothing wrong with having an opinion but at this point maybe the Mods need to step in and create a Levert vs Din vs trade thread or something because reading the same takes for the 1000th time in every thread feels like a waste of time.
I wish we could just enjoy one of our own guys finally becoming the player A LOT of us Nets fans thought he could be.
Can we just enjoy Caris becoming a killer in the league?
I'm not the one derailing every thread with this stuff. Every game thread, someone feels the need to say "Levert haters blah blah blah", when in fact no one is hating in the thread. It's seriously insecure and petty. So blame those people for doing that in every thread.Claud wrote:Reading the same people trash on Caris time and time again gets tiring af.
We get it, we've read the same thing for the last 3 years.
There's nothing wrong with having an opinion but at this point maybe the Mods need to step in and create a Levert vs Din vs trade thread or something because reading the same takes for the 1000th time in every thread feels like a waste of time.
I wish we could just enjoy one of our own guys finally becoming the player A LOT of us Nets fans thought he could be.
Can we just enjoy Caris becoming a killer in the league?
TheNetsFan wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:GTR11 wrote:?s=20
The fact that LeVert benefiting right now with little tweaks in our style of play don't seem to be well comprehended among few. Take a look at his shot selections.
He looks unstoppable in the mid range.
He should be unstoppable in the mid range. When you're a PG that is at least 6'6", long, and has the elevation and hang time he has, he should be able to get a clean mid-range look over just about any opposing guard in the league (save for bigger freaks like Ben Simmons). We saw it with DLo last year, but LeVert is even longer & more athletic. The strict adherence to analytics, specifically 3s and layups, makes sense when you lack talent as it maximizes what you have. However, when you have height/athleticism advantages, you need to exploit them as much as possible. Those advantages are diminished behind the arc. Shooting 53% from 2 (especially with the increased likelihood of drawing fouls) is better than shooting 35% from 3.
DarkXaero wrote:I thought Allen struggled in the first half and I felt that he needed to step up in the second half. And he absolutely did. He didn't have much help at all on the glass but he still grabbed a bunch of big rebounds down the stretch. 14 pts, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 blocks, +16. That's a very good statline, and we struggled hard when he wasn't on the floor.
I thought DJ was playing better than Allen (at the time) before the season got suspended. Since then DJ hasn't played, so I'm not gonna use that against him. I think Allen improving is great and introduces competition to challenge DJ to be better. If he's not accepting the challenge then he's not worthy of starting over Allen.MrDollarBills wrote:DarkXaero wrote:I thought Allen struggled in the first half and I felt that he needed to step up in the second half. And he absolutely did. He didn't have much help at all on the glass but he still grabbed a bunch of big rebounds down the stretch. 14 pts, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 blocks, +16. That's a very good statline, and we struggled hard when he wasn't on the floor.
a lot of points that Hasan Whiteside got was because Allen was rotating to help in the lane as well.
Allen has played with fire since the restart. You can't convince me that DeAndre Jordan is better than him right now. Allen's passing is sublime and now adds another weapon to his game.
All Jarrett needs to do now is develop a reliable shot from 12-15 feet.