Gordon Hayward Thread

Post #1921 » by **Parliament10** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 5:58 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Obviously that's a great decision by Hayward.

Does that mean he can't go back in the bubble after he leaves?

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It's looking like 4-Days of Quarantine, after he gets back.

Floody100 · Post #1922 » by **Floody100** » Sat Jul 4, 2020 12:45 am

Parliament10 wrote:

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Right in the middle of the playoffs :roll:

This isn’t a bash on Hayward’s decision to leave because I would do the same thing but damn his contract has been a big waste of money.
It’s not his fault but with all the issues we’ve had to put up with his injuries to go with the fact he hasn’t earned even half of the contract he was given I would hope he looks after the franchise that looked after him & signs a reasonable extension that helps us out.

Post #1923 » by **sully00** » Sat Jul 4, 2020 2:32 pm

Floody100 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:

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Right in the middle of the playoffs
This isn’t a bash on Hayward’s decision to leave because I would do the same thing but damn his contract has been a big waste of money.
It’s not his fault but with all the issues we’ve had to put up with his injuries to go with the fact he hasn’t earned even half of the contract he was given I would hope he looks after the franchise that looked after him & signs a reasonable extension that helps us out.

I think he will be thinking on those 3 little girls when he signs his next contract. That may help him stay so they can stay in their schools but I don't think he is going to make any risky economic decision this is his last big payday. It isn't like Boston is going to give him a no trade clause.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1924 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Jul 4, 2020 4:01 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Trivia Question: Name the ONLY player in the NBA who averaged at least 17 points per game while having a usage rate no higher than 22% for the season.

REVISED Trivia Question: Name the ONLY player in the NBA who averaged at least 17 points per game and an assist rate of at least 17% while having a usage rate no higher than 22% since Gordon Hayward entered the league (last 10 seasons).

Clue: The answer is in the question.

Spoiler:

Hayward being used as a 4th option might have been by design considering the team focused on the Js growth, Kemba fitting in, and Gordon having to manage/deal with his sore foot. He still produced as much as anyone put in that role could with his efficient shotmaking and smart playmaking for others. He was a great 4th option. Not too many teams had a more productive, more consistent 4th option player. However, if the team envisions this same place in the team hierarchy moving forward, it should be reflected in his next contract.

itrsteve · Post #1925 » by **itrsteve** » Mon Jul 6, 2020 10:16 am

Floody100 wrote:Right in the middle of the playoffs

Let’s be fair. Had covid not hit, he would have timed this major life event perfectly with the summer break.

celtxman · Post #1926 » by **celtxman** » Wed Jul 8, 2020 3:17 pm

canman1971 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:

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That's a no-brainer decision and should be for any father.

OK, OK.....this has officially worn me down. It's not about Gordon Hayward - I've been in his corner in this forum. But now the PC police have struck again with Gordon. He MUST leave to be there for his child's birth, after all, what kind of father would he be if he didn't? We saw Al Horford miss time for this as well, as he proved that he had his priorities in the right place.
So I did a very time consuming 5 minute Google search to check that on the days when Michael Jordan's three children were born, in season, HE ACTUALLY PLAYED THOSE MISERABLE REGULAR SEASON GAMES AND PLAYED OVER 40 minutes in each game. Hideous. Even if he was there for the birth( we need to investigate this )he wasn't there for the "bonding" and he deserted them. We THINK that Kobe had a great relationship with Gianna, but truth be told, he spent most of her day of birth OUT OF TOWN in Phoenix playing a dumb NBA playoff game.
Full disclosure- I was able to make my kids births. But if my employer said I couldn't go and I would be fired if I took off, I would have missed it. Why? Because if I quit out of "love" for my family, I never would have forgiven myself if my child was extremely sick a month later as I dropped the insurance when I quit. I may have looked for a job the next week but I wouldn't quit before that with a wife and baby I was responsible for. My wife and I are glad I was there for the births but nothing more than that and my kids dont care. Attending the birth of your child has become a contrived event for athletes to the point of having press conferences over it. It isnt the athlete's fault, it is what it has become.
You never know how things will work out on these playoffs. Who thought the Raptors would win an NBA title last year? This year will be even more unpredictable and the Celtics would have a fair shot. I understand that this coronavirus process is longer and completely different but does anyone really think Kobe or MJ would have announced they were missing a chunk of any playoffs with the same situation?
We wear blue jeans with big holes in them, have "gender reveal events" (one even starting a forest fire) because EVERYONE has to, and the announcements of celebrities missing time from their profession because their priorities are straight. Imagine the circus today if anyone announced they were playing on the birth day of their child like Kobe, MJ and thousands of others did in professional sports? It would go viral and the player would be shamed.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1927 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Thu Jul 9, 2020 12:47 am

I'm still blocked on IG lol.

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Post #1928 » by **shackles10** » Thu Jul 9, 2020 2:02 am

As someone who’s been working from home since early March but used to miss a lot of dinner times and often even bedtimes due to work I get what she’s saying. I’ll be returning to work next week, luckily with a new schedule and unlikely to miss those things now, but what she’s saying about it’s been nice while now being even harder on the kids is exactly right. They’re dreading me returning to work when I’ve been Mr. Mom for almost 4 months. I think the $30+M salary compared to mine might make it easier for all though.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1929 » by **GoCeltics123** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:37 pm

You guys remember that Hawks insider guy from a few months ago that I found?? He just said some interesting stuff on us, and especially on Hayward:

Boston doesn't want to be in the LT and are selling 1st round picks and want to move Kanter contract for one to get out of the 1st round where they have multiple picks but I was told they don't mind bitting the bullet for one season till they don't get what they want as well. They want to keep Semi O and Theis and don't mind going into the LT to resign them.

There was a consideration that they wanted Gordon to opt out and resign him at a lower market rate but I was told that his play has been so good that his market is higher than expected and they would rather him do it in 2021 instead where they have more options to add talent if issues arise.

Hayward part is very interesting to me. He also says the Celtics have taken higher-than-expected financial losses due to COVID.

Soulcatcher33 · Post #1930 » by **Soulcatcher33** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:51 am

Hayward is definitely going to get good offers elsewhere so the Celtics can't low ball. You can go on about this 4th option stuff, but that doesn't mean he's the 4th best player. He's clearly a better and more polished player than Brown right now and he's been better than Kemba for most of the season. He's been designated as the "4th option" because he's the most unselfish of the four by far. Good things happen when he has the ball in his hands, though, as we've seen all season long. He should be the main ball handler on the team. Smart is also a good playmaker, but it's a lot easier for an opposing defense to play him as he isn't even close to the kind of scorer Hayward is. I'm sure opposing defense's are happy anytime Smart puts the ball on the floor and starts trying to attack...I know I hate it as a Celtics fan. lol

zoyathedestroya · Post #1931 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:07 am

Maybe the most athletic and explosive we've seen him in a Celtics uniform... Came at the right time too. Hope he doesn't miss more than two games with the birth of his son. Okay, I hope we get past the first round first lol.

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exculpatory · Post #1932 » by **exculpatory** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:25 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Maybe the most athletic and explosive we've seen him in a Celtics uniform... Came at the right time too. Hope he doesn't miss more than two games with the birth of his son. Okay, I hope we get past the first round first lol.

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Great great mother **** stuff!
This is Utah Gordon ALL STAR

Invaluable member of this team!

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #1933 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:05 pm

It's time to move on from the Hayward experiment. The relationship has run it's course, he's a nice kid, great family, but that's about it.

Cursed.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1934 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:07 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:It's time to move on from the Hayward experiment. The relationship has run it's course, he's a nice kid, great family, but that's about it.

Cursed.

He's cursed but it'll be tough as hell to replace him.

Post #1935 » by **Parliament10** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:19 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:It's time to move on from the Hayward experiment. The relationship has run it's course, he's a nice kid, great family, but that's about it.

Cursed.

He's cursed but it'll be tough as hell to replace him.

In the roll that he plays on the Celtics (4th Option), it's not going to be hard to replace him.
What we need is better options at PF & C and some Depth.

big-shot-ROB · Post #1936 » by **big-shot-ROB** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:21 pm

I'll eat my words otherwise, but I'll be on everyone's asses the minute Hayward isn't on the team and we struggle to generate any kind of flowing offense.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1937 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:06 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:It's time to move on from the Hayward experiment. The relationship has run it's course, he's a nice kid, great family, but that's about it.

Cursed.

He's cursed but it'll be tough as hell to replace him.

In the roll that he plays on the Celtics (4th Option), it's not going to be hard to replace him.
What we need is better options at PF & C and some Depth.

We do need more depth but no, it won't be easy to replace him.

Like people said, stop looking at him like just a 4th option. He's a 17-5-5 guy. Best passer on the team arguably. Team without him struggles to score, we saw that in December.

The_Ghost_of_JB · Post #1938 » by **The_Ghost_of_JB** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:33 pm

The problem with losing Hayward is that it makes an already weak bench even weaker. Smart gets moved into the starting line up and guys like Wanamaker, Williams, Williams and maybe Romeo and Semi get more time which does not bode well for getting far in the playoffs.

jmr07019 · Post #1939 » by **jmr07019** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:48 pm

Members of this board greatly over state Hayward’s next contract. He will be back for around 20/season.

Post #1940 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:48 pm

The real terror is Semi Ojeleye playing. But just move Smart to 40 minutes, Kemba to 40, Wanamaker to 20, Grant and Romeo to 8 and you've accounted for the 35 that Hayward played last night. He's going to miss up to 3 games at some point anyway depending on when his wife gives birth. As long as you have Smart or Tatum on the floor I think the offense can run pretty smoothly.