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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1361 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:57 pm

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Stannis wrote:Krystal Ball with some fire tweets lately:

This one is just too funny:
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Ooooh Krystal really channeling that edgy teen energy. Too bad she’s a grown woman with the intellect of a turnip.


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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1362 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:02 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Stannis wrote:Krystal Ball with some fire tweets lately:

This one is just too funny:
Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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Ooooh Krystal really channeling that edgy teen energy. Too bad she’s a grown woman with the intellect of a turnip.


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Words of wisdom from the "policy wonks" :lol: Who looks like the teenie boppers now? Krystal actually had a point to make and she made it with the help of that Black woman running for Congrees who probably knows a little more about Baltimore than you two do.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1363 » by BKlutch » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:33 pm

Stannis wrote:Krystal Ball with some fire tweets lately:

This one is just too funny:
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Clearly, this is Lonzo and Lamello Ball's sister, Krystal. Yeah, you can see the resemblance. Makes LaVar look mentally balanced.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1364 » by GONYK » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:58 pm

The Dems had a significant portion of the evening dedicated to BLM and ending injustice towards communities of color. George Floyd's family spoke. Bernie Sanders spoke.

I think BLM and progressives were represented.

Democrats are allowed to cast a wide net.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1365 » by Oscirus » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:04 pm

While Krystal does have a point in regards to their treatment of progressives at this convention, she became white noise the moment she talked about going third party as soon as it became evident biden was going to win.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1366 » by GONYK » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:55 pm

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1367 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:43 pm

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How about undoing the damage the already done?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1368 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:48 pm

Oscirus wrote:While Krystal does have a point in regards to their treatment of progressives at this convention, she became white noise the moment she talked about going third party as soon as it became evident biden was going to win.



Is that still her position? In any event, her opinions on those two respective issues are independent of each other. She’s right about what’s going eat the Convention. Does she still believe in voting third party now and, if so, is it limited non-swing states?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1369 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:56 pm

Here’s another example of how the DNC works. Back at the ‘16 DNC Convention, Uber was a major sponsor. So if you needed to get to a Convention event and happened to take a regular taxi, you got dropped off blocks from the event. But if you took an Uber, you got door-to-door service.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1370 » by Oscirus » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:25 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Oscirus wrote:While Krystal does have a point in regards to their treatment of progressives at this convention, she became white noise the moment she talked about going third party as soon as it became evident biden was going to win.



Is that still her position? In any event, her opinions on those two respective issues are independent of each other. She’s right about what’s going eat the Convention. Does she still believe in voting third party now and, if so, is it limited non-swing states?

Not really, if a candidates not gonna please her no matter what he does and she chooses to stay on the sideline, then her opinions irrelevant since she's clearly looking for things to support her decision.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1371 » by j4remi » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:05 am

Oscirus wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Oscirus wrote:While Krystal does have a point in regards to their treatment of progressives at this convention, she became white noise the moment she talked about going third party as soon as it became evident biden was going to win.



Is that still her position? In any event, her opinions on those two respective issues are independent of each other. She’s right about what’s going eat the Convention. Does she still believe in voting third party now and, if so, is it limited non-swing states?

Not really, if a candidates not gonna please her no matter what he does and she chooses to stay on the sideline, then her opinions irrelevant since she's clearly looking for things to support her decision.


Krystal Ball and Glenn Greenwald are two people whose work I really liked in the past but whom I think personal bad experiences with the Democratic establishment have pushed them to be more cynical than I can agree with at times. The voting third party is one place where I don't agree with 'em...though I admit in safe blue or red states, it typically doesn't matter to me.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1372 » by robillionaire » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:39 am

EricAnderson wrote:The progressive Bernie Bro’s are annoying as hell.. Trying to say there not gonna vote for anyone out of spite.

I’m sorry but going far left is not the answer. You’re not gonna win pandering to the extreme fringes of your party.

Besides the far left/progressives will always eat their own eventually anyway.

There looking for some perfect human being who doesn’t exist.

Anyone who’s ever made a mistake they want their heads.

You could have the progressive candidate they all want but then they’d find some quote the person made from 1982 that they feel is anti trans or something and they’d throw that candidate under the bus.


it's called accountability

you aren't going to win pandering to a party that hates you
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1373 » by sims » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:06 am

EricAnderson wrote:There looking for some perfect human being who doesn’t exist.

Anyone who’s ever made a mistake they want their heads.

You could have the progressive candidate they all want but then they’d find some quote the person made from 1982 that they feel is anti trans or something and they’d throw that candidate under the bus.


their spokesperson is named after a conquistador and yet her whole schtick is to lecture everyone else about how evil their ancestors were. irony is lost on these people.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1374 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:11 am

j4remi wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:

Is that still her position? In any event, her opinions on those two respective issues are independent of each other. She’s right about what’s going eat the Convention. Does she still believe in voting third party now and, if so, is it limited non-swing states?

Not really, if a candidates not gonna please her no matter what he does and she chooses to stay on the sideline, then her opinions irrelevant since she's clearly looking for things to support her decision.


Krystal Ball and Glenn Greenwald are two people whose work I really liked in the past but whom I think personal bad experiences with the Democratic establishment have pushed them to be more cynical than I can agree with at times. The voting third party is one place where I don't agree with 'em...though I admit in safe blue or red states, it typically doesn't matter to me.


There was a lot of anger after South Carolina and a lot people with talking a lot trash. :wave: lol

I think now that the rubber is about to hit the road, it's all pretty clear what we have to do. I was sympathetic to those from non-swing states who wished to submit a protest vote but I think the best thing to do at this point is run up the score on Trump often, early (VOTE EARLY!), and everywhere so that it's not even a close call. (Btw, that's a strategy proferred by Sam Seder, thank you very much. :D ) I would be surprised to learn that Krystal still feels that way but who knows and who really cares?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1375 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:12 am

Anyone from the Neo Nazi/KKK groups going to speak at the DNC Convention? Every vote counts! Isn't that what a few have said here?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1376 » by Oscirus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:12 am

j4remi wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:

Is that still her position? In any event, her opinions on those two respective issues are independent of each other. She’s right about what’s going eat the Convention. Does she still believe in voting third party now and, if so, is it limited non-swing states?

Not really, if a candidates not gonna please her no matter what he does and she chooses to stay on the sideline, then her opinions irrelevant since she's clearly looking for things to support her decision.


Krystal Ball and Glenn Greenwald are two people whose work I really liked in the past but whom I think personal bad experiences with the Democratic establishment have pushed them to be more cynical than I can agree with at times. The voting third party is one place where I don't agree with 'em...though I admit in safe blue or red states, it typically doesn't matter to me.

I get why progressives dont want to deal with the bull cuz honestly, they get kicked alot. Hell even here they're getting punched. I can sympathize up to a point. Once you go third party, my sympathies much like my listening go elsewhere.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1377 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:25 am

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1378 » by Oscirus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:36 am

Even though he's old as ****, Bill is still really good at this
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1379 » by Oscirus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:44 am

Ah ok now I see why aoc only got 1 minute lolz
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1380 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:37 am

Oscirus wrote:Even though he's old as ****, Bill is still really good at this


He's got shackles on him now. On most occasions, when Bill's left to his own devices, he'll go off message just to throw a spike at an old enemy. He's more curmudgeonly than Bernie.
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