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Post#1842 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:18 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:these new odds are straight up HORSE****


Agree...but they definitely take away the huge tanking tradition for that "number 1" spot.

I will be spending tonight fantasying about number 5 picks! whoohooo! As long as we don't slip to 6 ;)
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Post#1843 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:07 pm

I wonder if the Warriors selection shows their hand for whether or not they keep Wiggins?
I actually think Wiggins is the perfect SF for the Warriors....step below Durant but...damn...long...dynamic scorer. If he were to have a slightly better year with Warriors are golden.

If they pick a SF type....Avdija...or a player like that....I think it may suggest Warriors are truly looking to move Wiggins.
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Post#1844 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:21 pm

Patrick Williams looks like a nice option if Warriors are at 5 or trade down....6'8"...looks like a really good defender at the rim and perimeter...and a nice shooting stroke.
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ILOVEIT wrote:Patrick Williams looks like a nice option if Warriors are at 5 or trade down....6'8"...looks like a really good defender at the rim and perimeter...and a nice shooting stroke.


Patrick Williams is my guy in this draft, he's the next Kawhi Leonard. 5-10 is the range I see him going in. Defense first guy:

https://youtu.be/V2s927mRQIE?t=157
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Post#1846 » by whatisacenter » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:10 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:Patrick Williams looks like a nice option if Warriors are at 5 or trade down....6'8"...looks like a really good defender at the rim and perimeter...and a nice shooting stroke.


Patrick Williams is my guy in this draft, he's the next Kawhi Leonard. 5-10 is the range I see him going in. Defense first guy:

https://youtu.be/V2s927mRQIE?t=157


I like him too but only as a trade down guy.
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Post#1847 » by Onus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:01 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:I wonder if the Warriors selection shows their hand for whether or not they keep Wiggins?
I actually think Wiggins is the perfect SF for the Warriors....step below Durant but...damn...long...dynamic scorer. If he were to have a slightly better year with Warriors are golden.

If they pick a SF type....Avdija...or a player like that....I think it may suggest Warriors are truly looking to move Wiggins.

Nah you can never have too many wings especially when Draymond really is a center. He would probably come off the bench but he could close with Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Deni, Green. The only thing is I'm scared he's Mario Henzonja.

I've come to the conclusion it doesn't matter where we pick we'll be able to pick up a contributor whether it's Wiseman, Okongwu, Deni, Edwards, Vassell.

I really want a smart defender as a 5th piece, I'm so jealous of the Raptors defense.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#1848 » by ShayDee » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:17 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:I wonder if the Warriors selection shows their hand for whether or not they keep Wiggins?
I actually think Wiggins is the perfect SF for the Warriors....step below Durant but...damn...long...dynamic scorer. If he were to have a slightly better year with Warriors are golden.

If they pick a SF type....Avdija...or a player like that....I think it may suggest Warriors are truly looking to move Wiggins.

Nah you can never have too many wings especially when Draymond really is a center. He would probably come off the bench but he could close with Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Deni, Green. The only thing is I'm scared he's Mario Henzonja.

I've come to the conclusion it doesn't matter where we pick we'll be able to pick up a contributor whether it's Wiseman, Okongwu, Deni, Edwards, Vassell.

I really want a smart defender as a 5th piece, I'm so jealous of the Raptors defense.


What raptors have and the reason they beat us last year is, they have at least 5 people on their roster that can give you 20. their defense is a bonus but when you have Lowry, FVV, Ibaka, Powell, Kawhi(not this year), Rarely OG that can almost create their **** and shoot the 3 at an above average level then thats tough to defend. That is why I keep emphasis we focus on highly skilled players, that can dribble, pass, defend and has an elite offensive skill that isn't just dunking
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Post#1849 » by wco81 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:47 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:I wonder if the Warriors selection shows their hand for whether or not they keep Wiggins?
I actually think Wiggins is the perfect SF for the Warriors....step below Durant but...damn...long...dynamic scorer. If he were to have a slightly better year with Warriors are golden.

If they pick a SF type....Avdija...or a player like that....I think it may suggest Warriors are truly looking to move Wiggins.

Nah you can never have too many wings especially when Draymond really is a center. He would probably come off the bench but he could close with Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Deni, Green. The only thing is I'm scared he's Mario Henzonja.

I've come to the conclusion it doesn't matter where we pick we'll be able to pick up a contributor whether it's Wiseman, Okongwu, Deni, Edwards, Vassell.

I really want a smart defender as a 5th piece, I'm so jealous of the Raptors defense.


What raptors have and the reason they beat us last year is, they have at least 5 people on their roster that can give you 20. their defense is a bonus but when you have Lowry, FVV, Ibaka, Powell, Kawhi(not this year), Rarely OG that can almost create their **** and shoot the 3 at an above average level then thats tough to defend. That is why I keep emphasis we focus on highly skilled players, that can dribble, pass, defend and has an elite offensive skill that isn't just dunking



Reason they beat GSW is no KD and eventually no Klay, who also missed a game earlier in the series, came back and was balling, only to be clipped by Danny Green and knocked out of the series. Also Looney had injury too, which limited his minutes and effectiveness.

Not to say Warriors didn't have other weaknesses. The center position, especially with Cousins, was vulnerable to switches and Lowry feasted on taking Cousins off the dribble.

But if Klay, KD and Looney played normal minutes, it wouldn't have even been close. As it is if Klay doesn't go down in game 6, they probably win game 6. Klay was shooting an insane percentage this series, before he was injured but especially in game 6 before he went down. He would have been the Finals MVP if the Warriors won.

Doesn't guarantee he would have shot well over 50% from 3. But if he shot 38% from 3 in game 7, they probably would have had a good chance to win.
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Post#1850 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:04 am

ShayDee wrote:
Onus wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:I wonder if the Warriors selection shows their hand for whether or not they keep Wiggins?
I actually think Wiggins is the perfect SF for the Warriors....step below Durant but...damn...long...dynamic scorer. If he were to have a slightly better year with Warriors are golden.

If they pick a SF type....Avdija...or a player like that....I think it may suggest Warriors are truly looking to move Wiggins.

Nah you can never have too many wings especially when Draymond really is a center. He would probably come off the bench but he could close with Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Deni, Green. The only thing is I'm scared he's Mario Henzonja.

I've come to the conclusion it doesn't matter where we pick we'll be able to pick up a contributor whether it's Wiseman, Okongwu, Deni, Edwards, Vassell.

I really want a smart defender as a 5th piece, I'm so jealous of the Raptors defense.


What raptors have and the reason they beat us last year is, they have at least 5 people on their roster that can give you 20. their defense is a bonus but when you have Lowry, FVV, Ibaka, Powell, Kawhi(not this year), Rarely OG that can almost create their **** and shoot the 3 at an above average level then thats tough to defend. That is why I keep emphasis we focus on highly skilled players, that can dribble, pass, defend and has an elite offensive skill that isn't just dunking


But the point is made....it's a good one. Having potential scorers at all positions with the potential to switch and be rangy defenders is key. I'm not in favor of drafting a big guy that can defend...but is a project offensively....or can't shoot with range....etc. Those days are gone. Just look at the playoffs right now....a team like Philly or Lakers just can't score consistantly.

Toronto, Portland...to a lesser extent Celtics...are the future style rosters...

That's why I love Patrick Williams. He's big...athletic...great defensive mind AND he can score.
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Post#1851 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:07 am

thinkingwarriors wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Patrick Williams looks like a nice option if Warriors are at 5 or trade down....6'8"...looks like a really good defender at the rim and perimeter...and a nice shooting stroke.


Patrick Williams is my guy in this draft, he's the next Kawhi Leonard. 5-10 is the range I see him going in. Defense first guy:

https://youtu.be/V2s927mRQIE?t=157


Thanks for the link. BTW....his saying that the team ran a 12 man rotation suggests that his offensive numbers would be higher in a different team where he got more run.

Smart dude...I'm falling in loooooooooooooove with guy ;)
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Post#1852 » by Onus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:40 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
thinkingwarriors wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Patrick Williams looks like a nice option if Warriors are at 5 or trade down....6'8"...looks like a really good defender at the rim and perimeter...and a nice shooting stroke.


Patrick Williams is my guy in this draft, he's the next Kawhi Leonard. 5-10 is the range I see him going in. Defense first guy:

https://youtu.be/V2s927mRQIE?t=157


Thanks for the link. BTW....his saying that the team ran a 12 man rotation suggests that his offensive numbers would be higher in a different team where he got more run.

Smart dude...I'm falling in loooooooooooooove with guy ;)

Give me precious over Williams.
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Post#1853 » by ShayDee » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:56 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
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Onus wrote:Nah you can never have too many wings especially when Draymond really is a center. He would probably come off the bench but he could close with Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Deni, Green. The only thing is I'm scared he's Mario Henzonja.

I've come to the conclusion it doesn't matter where we pick we'll be able to pick up a contributor whether it's Wiseman, Okongwu, Deni, Edwards, Vassell.

I really want a smart defender as a 5th piece, I'm so jealous of the Raptors defense.


What raptors have and the reason they beat us last year is, they have at least 5 people on their roster that can give you 20. their defense is a bonus but when you have Lowry, FVV, Ibaka, Powell, Kawhi(not this year), Rarely OG that can almost create their **** and shoot the 3 at an above average level then thats tough to defend. That is why I keep emphasis we focus on highly skilled players, that can dribble, pass, defend and has an elite offensive skill that isn't just dunking


But the point is made....it's a good one. Having potential scorers at all positions with the potential to switch and be rangy defenders is key. I'm not in favor of drafting a big guy that can defend...but is a project offensively....or can't shoot with range....etc. Those days are gone. Just look at the playoffs right now....a team like Philly or Lakers just can't score consistantly.

Toronto, Portland...to a lesser extent Celtics...are the future style rosters...

That's why I love Patrick Williams. He's big...athletic...great defensive mind AND he can score.


Without Nurkic, Wenyen Gabriel and Whiteside they get decimated by the Lakers. Your point stands but when there is no consensus #1 perimeter player that can beat guys of the dribble and shoot, The big guy that has rim protection potential as well as the best offensive 7fter inthe draft that is tall, mobile, athletic not terrible on Fts, can hit the midrange(none of the blazers bigs can hit that shot btw) that is still 19 you have to take him in the top 3, especially in this draft. Also he is the only one that would start for us in this draft but not necessarily get he most minutes for development time
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Post#1854 » by ChuckDurn » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:19 am

Onus wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:
thinkingwarriors wrote:
Patrick Williams is my guy in this draft, he's the next Kawhi Leonard. 5-10 is the range I see him going in. Defense first guy:

https://youtu.be/V2s927mRQIE?t=157


Thanks for the link. BTW....his saying that the team ran a 12 man rotation suggests that his offensive numbers would be higher in a different team where he got more run.

Smart dude...I'm falling in loooooooooooooove with guy ;)

Give me precious over Williams.

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Post#1855 » by Onus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:30 am

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Onus wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:
Thanks for the link. BTW....his saying that the team ran a 12 man rotation suggests that his offensive numbers would be higher in a different team where he got more run.

Smart dude...I'm falling in loooooooooooooove with guy ;)

Give me precious over Williams.

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Precious is way more versatile as a defender. Has a better motor better on the boards. They’re both rough as offensive players.
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Post#1856 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:34 am

thinkingwarriors wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Patrick Williams looks like a nice option if Warriors are at 5 or trade down....6'8"...looks like a really good defender at the rim and perimeter...and a nice shooting stroke.


Patrick Williams is my guy in this draft, he's the next Kawhi Leonard. 5-10 is the range I see him going in. Defense first guy:

https://youtu.be/V2s927mRQIE?t=157


There's a bunch of guys together with him for me. Could go 10, could go in the teens.
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Post#1857 » by ShayDee » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:00 am

I don't care how elite your defense is. If you have no skilled offensive game you are at the bottom of my board. Mavs have no defenders but are holding up to clippers who are touted as a super built defensive team. Yet mavs have so many skilled offensive players. Man give me any elite shooter to surround Steph that is no negative on D above people like Okoro/Onyeka
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Post#1858 » by Onus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:22 am

ShayDee wrote:I don't care how elite your defense is. If you have no skilled offensive game you are at the bottom of my board. Mavs have no defenders but are holding up to clippers who are touted are super built defensive team. Yet mava have so many skilled offensive players. Man give me any elite shooter to surround Steph that is no negative on D above people like Okoro/Onyeka

Clippers aren’t a super defensive team. The have poor defenders all over outside of kawhi and pg. It’s also really hard to defend a 5 out offense. The mavs do have the no 1 efficient offense in history.

Maxi is also a great defender. And kp gives you that rim protection.
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Post#1859 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:29 am

Bey...Williams... what I think makes sense for the Warriors is drafting a big athletic 6'6" to 6"8" guard/sf who plays defense and shoots a solid 3 point shot. Ever since Ezeli got switch on by Lebron abuse him on the perimeter....I just don't see the Warriors ever wanting to get into that weak mismatch on a switch.

Todays game is switching everything...and not having any weakness. And IF you are going to have a mismatch, it had better be for a two pointer against a plodding big man you can turn over (Warriors used to feast on Dwight Howard and also turned over AD often with digging down by the smaller guards).

So whomever the Warriors pick to KEEP...I think it's a Deni, Bey, Williams type...
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Post#1860 » by ShayDee » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:09 am

Onus wrote:
ShayDee wrote:I don't care how elite your defense is. If you have no skilled offensive game you are at the bottom of my board. Mavs have no defenders but are holding up to clippers who are touted are super built defensive team. Yet mava have so many skilled offensive players. Man give me any elite shooter to surround Steph that is no negative on D above people like Okoro/Onyeka

Clippers aren’t a super defensive team. The have poor defenders all over outside of kawhi and pg. It’s also really hard to defend a 5 out offense. The mavs do have the no 1 efficient offense in history.

Maxi is also a great defender. And kp gives you that rim protection.


Draymond just handicaps our offense too much. He's too undersized and sucks from 3, What are we supposed to do

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