2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th!

jumpman23j · Post #161 » by **jumpman23j** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:50 pm

Get your popcorn ready because Silver is going to bless us with the number 1 pick! I believe we luck out like we did in the Derrick Rose lottery and land the number 1 pick. We did everything necessary like get rid of the gm and fire the coach. The Nba is always better when the Bulls are in the playoffs. Can't wait for tonight! I'll be back here after the lottery to celebrate with you guys. Peace and stay safe!

NecessaryEvil · Post #162 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:52 pm

JohnnyTapwater wrote:I fear Edwards is JR. Smith.

All the tools in the world, but not what he was supposed to be.

I DO like he's talking about defense. Either that's his agent or that's from his heart. I like reports of his work ethic. I hope those things are true. My gut says stay away, but I'm open to be wrong on him.

I like Edwards. He seems genuine in his plight to get better and stay working at his game. Sky is the limit for him. I see him atleast as a Joe Johnson level player. If Zach asked for a trade, atleast we could build the backcourt around Edwards/White, which would be pretty solid.

If we somehow came outta this draft with Edwards + AK + Eversley + a new HC, this would be my happiest as a fan in a minute.

Leslie Forman · Post #163 » by **Leslie Forman** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:01 pm

nomorezorro wrote:can anyone think of a player in anthony edwards's mold who was like, "highly ranked obviously talented scoring guard/wing who kind of sucks at basketball" who panned out after being taken high?

Jaylen Brown was really not that good as a freshman. People thought Ainge was an idiot for taking him over Kris Dunn. Look how that turned out.

Jcool0 · Post #164 » by **Jcool0** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:07 pm

Among many teams, there is interest in connecting the mid-October draft and free-agency periods so that they could be delayed together, sources said.

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erlim · Post #165 » by **erlim** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:09 pm

#7 is the expected, but what’s the worst pick we can get? I need to prepare for that.

NecessaryEvil · Post #166 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:11 pm

erlim wrote:#7 is the expected, but what’s the worst pick we can get? I need to prepare for that.

11th

Andi Obst · Post #167 » by **Andi Obst** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:20 pm

Jcool0 wrote:Among many teams, there is interest in connecting the mid-October draft and free-agency periods so that they could be delayed together, sources said.

Oh man, I really don't need more time to talk about this class.

nomorezorro · Post #168 » by **nomorezorro** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:30 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:Jaylen Brown was really not that good as a freshman. People thought Ainge was an idiot for taking him over Kris Dunn. Look how that turned out.

yeah that's a good one. i feel like he had a little more...toolsy-ness boosting his stock than the other guys i'm thinking of? although i guess wiggins was supposed to be a great defensive talent lol

i'm picturing "great scorer, might not be good at anything else, and also he might not even be that efficient as a scorer" as the specific prospect mold i have in mind. rj barrett is another one.

(but like i just mentioned with wiggins, my memory might be foggy about how prospects were perceived at the time of the draft based on how they ended up performing on the league)

PaKii94 · Post #169 » by **PaKii94** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:36 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:can anyone think of a player in anthony edwards's mold who was like, "highly ranked obviously talented scoring guard/wing who kind of sucks at basketball" who panned out after being taken high?

Jaylen Brown was really not that good as a freshman. People thought Ainge was an idiot for taking him over Kris Dunn. Look how that turned out.

I thought jalen was taken for his intangibles not as a scorer with not much else. Didn't follow him too closely that draft so I could be wrong lol

ImSlower · Post #170 » by **ImSlower** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:38 pm

I fully expect the Bulls to drop to 8th or 9th, and I won't really care.

That way if we jump to top 4 I will consider it very exciting!

jumpman23j · Post #171 » by **jumpman23j** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:42 pm

ImSlower wrote:I fully expect the Bulls to drop to 8th or 9th, and I won't really care.

That way if we jump to top 4 I will consider it very exciting!

And I am fully expecting them to jump to the top 4 because we're due. The NBA needs to get the Bulls back to being a top tier franchise again.

nomorezorro · Post #172 » by **nomorezorro** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:57 pm

i am expecting to move down, albeit with a reasonable shot of moving up and a decent chance of staying put too. as that's what the odds are.

nomorezorro · Post #173 » by **nomorezorro** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:57 pm

jk. i expect us to win the lottery, as that is definitely what's going to happen. less than four hours until that envelope gets opened baby

NecessaryEvil · Post #174 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:06 pm

Bulls sign AK
Bulls demote Paxson
Bulls fire Forman
Bulls hire Marc Eversley
Bulls fire Jim Boylen

Hopefully the positivity continues!! 3 hrs and 25 mins and counting ....

Wiseman, Ball, Deni, Edwards ... give me any of em

ImSlower · Post #175 » by **ImSlower** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:13 pm

I am actually oddly suddenly kind of hyped about it. Guess it's my gambler's urge. If we did move up, it would really liven up this board. I don't think most of us are excited at all about the guys on the draft board, but I sure as **** think a lot of us would be if we had that #2 pick awaiting us!

No Whammy No Whammy No Whammy

its gonna be #8 isn't it

jc23 · Post #176 » by **jc23** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:23 pm

#3 pick is my guess cause why not...why cant Chicago get a top 3 pick..why? why?

Jcool0 · Post #177 » by **Jcool0** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 pm

nomorezorro wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:Jaylen Brown was really not that good as a freshman. People thought Ainge was an idiot for taking him over Kris Dunn. Look how that turned out.

yeah that's a good one. i feel like he had a little more...toolsy-ness boosting his stock than the other guys i'm thinking of? although i guess wiggins was supposed to be a great defensive talent lol

i'm picturing "great scorer, might not be good at anything else, and also he might not even be that efficient as a scorer" as the specific prospect mold i have in mind. rj barrett is another one.

(but like i just mentioned with wiggins, my memory might be foggy about how prospects were perceived at the time of the draft based on how they ended up performing on the league)

Jaylen Brown also was pretty much a bust before this year. So if he had gone to Minnesota and probably not given much development, he probably isn't making the jump he made this year. All AK has been talking about is developing players, so with Edwards, who has all the tools, you hope your coaching staff can maximize what he can do. Also like some had said this isn't an exact science. If it was Giannis wouldn't have gone 15th.

Leslie Forman · Post #178 » by **Leslie Forman** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:34 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:can anyone think of a player in anthony edwards's mold who was like, "highly ranked obviously talented scoring guard/wing who kind of sucks at basketball" who panned out after being taken high?

Jaylen Brown was really not that good as a freshman. People thought Ainge was an idiot for taking him over Kris Dunn. Look how that turned out.

I thought jalen was taken for his intangibles not as a scorer with not much else. Didn't follow him too closely that draft so I could be wrong lol

You don't draft a wing that high thinking they're going to stink as a scorer.

This is not to say that they sometimes don't but it's certainly not like a GM thinks "yeah this 12PPG glue guy is really gonna be worth the #3 pick."

MrSparkle · Post #179 » by **MrSparkle** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:41 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:Jaylen Brown was really not that good as a freshman. People thought Ainge was an idiot for taking him over Kris Dunn. Look how that turned out.

I thought jalen was taken for his intangibles not as a scorer with not much else. Didn't follow him too closely that draft so I could be wrong lol

You don't draft a wing that high thinking they're going to stink as a scorer.

This is not to say that they sometimes don't but it's certainly not like a GM thinks "yeah this 12PPG glue guy is really gonna be worth the #3 pick."

Yeah. The Jimmy Butler (not Tomball role-player version) comparisons were very strong with Brown.

NecessaryEvil · Post #180 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:53 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:Jaylen Brown was really not that good as a freshman. People thought Ainge was an idiot for taking him over Kris Dunn. Look how that turned out.

yeah that's a good one. i feel like he had a little more...toolsy-ness boosting his stock than the other guys i'm thinking of? although i guess wiggins was supposed to be a great defensive talent lol

i'm picturing "great scorer, might not be good at anything else, and also he might not even be that efficient as a scorer" as the specific prospect mold i have in mind. rj barrett is another one.

(but like i just mentioned with wiggins, my memory might be foggy about how prospects were perceived at the time of the draft based on how they ended up performing on the league)

Jaylen Brown also was pretty much a bust before this year. So if he had gone to Minnesota and probably not given much development, he probably isn't making the jump he made this year. All AK has been talking about is developing players, so with Edwards, who has all the tools, you hope your coaching staff can maximize what he can do. Also like some had said this isn't an exact science. If it was Giannis wouldn't have gone 15th.

Huh? He's been greatly improving since last season. This season has show that he's a star in the making but he's always been a good player.