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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1781 » by aramada » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:38 pm

NotACat wrote:Magic fan here, would you trade OPJ for Fournier (PO), Aminu, and Orlando's 2nd (#45)?


Is Fournier exercising his PO?
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Post#1782 » by NotACat » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:43 pm

aramada wrote:
NotACat wrote:Magic fan here, would you trade OPJ for Fournier (PO), Aminu, and Orlando's 2nd (#45)?


Is Fournier exercising his PO?

I think that is most likely right now. Can't see there being much money on the table with teams looking to save money
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Post#1783 » by sco » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:23 pm

NotACat wrote:
aramada wrote:
NotACat wrote:Magic fan here, would you trade OPJ for Fournier (PO), Aminu, and Orlando's 2nd (#45)?


Is Fournier exercising his PO?

I think that is most likely right now. Can't see there being much money on the table with teams looking to save money

I'd do that deal. I Love Fournier. I would love to keep Otto, but I get the sense the Bulls are committed to moving on from him after this season, regardless, so better to get a free look at Fournier. I like Aminu, but his deal is a little rich.

How about:

Porter/Carter/Arci for Fournier/Bamba/Aminu?
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Post#1784 » by StunnerKO » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:32 pm

Aminu deal isn’t bad he’s only making 9 and 10
Million and when he’s back from injury that’s a cheaper Thad at this point and Bulls still will have plenty cap space in 21 to sign a star if it happens
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Post#1785 » by NotACat » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:34 pm

sco wrote:
NotACat wrote:
aramada wrote:
Is Fournier exercising his PO?

I think that is most likely right now. Can't see there being much money on the table with teams looking to save money

I'd do that deal. I Love Fournier. I would love to keep Otto, but I get the sense the Bulls are committed to moving on from him after this season, regardless, so better to get a free look at Fournier. I like Aminu, but his deal is a little rich.

How about:

Porter/Carter/Arci for Fournier/Bamba/Aminu?

I think it's solid outside of the Bamba/WCJ swap. Orlando's FO chose Bamba over WCJ, I don't think they swap now
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Post#1786 » by sco » Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:56 pm

I do wonder if there is a simmons deal that doesn't gut the team. IMO, Philly needs a PF who fits next to Embiid and some more shooting. I wonder if #4, Lauri and Otto is enough. I would be excited with a pairing of Lavine/Simmons and keep Coby.
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Post#1787 » by boozapalooza » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:38 pm

sco wrote:I do wonder if there is a simmons deal that doesn't gut the team. IMO, Philly needs a PF who fits next to Embiid and some more shooting. I wonder if #4, Lauri and Otto is enough. I would be excited with a pairing of Lavine/Simmons and keep Coby.


Philly seems to be tied up at PF with the Horford contract. I don’t think they would be eager to give Lauri a big contract in the next couple years. And Otto would be playing behind Tobias as well. Philly would likely want Coby and/or Lavine in any Simmons deal.

Maybe Lavine, Otto, #4, and our 2021 unprotected 1st for Simmons would get them to bite?
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Post#1788 » by gardenofsound » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:46 pm

Would anyone say no to this deal?

CHI-->CHA: Young, Satoransky, #4
CHA-->CHI: Batum, #3, #32

Why for Charlotte?
- While Batum is expiring, he's a dead weight contract on a team that desperately needs contributors. As constructed, Thad and Sato would currently start for the Hornets.
- They're only dropping down one draft slot and getting two useful players to replace that dead weight. There's a strong likelihood they get who they would have chosen anyways at #3.
- CHA is not going to become a major player in FA until/unless they get a true franchise player.
- Sato and Young are a lot more tradeable than Batum from a salary matching standpoint.
- I think #32 is fair for the Bulls to ask for in addition to #3... but if necessary the Bulls can send #44 in the deal also.

Why for Chicago?
- Batum is expiring while Sato/Young are guaranteed a combined $11mm in 2021-2022.
- Move up to #3 from #4 is good, though it isn't a huge jump. Like with the Hornets, I'm not sure the Bulls BPA at #3 is any different than at #4.
- #32 gives another shot at a potential contributor in what's believed to be a well distributed draft in terms of talent.

Assuming the Bulls only sign 1yr deals to fill out the roster from there, it leaves them with the flexibility to have enough cap space for two max salaries (AD+Giannis) and then some while still keeping LaVine, White, Carter, and the 2020 #3.
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Post#1789 » by _txchilibowl_ » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:46 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:Another possibility I thought of is trying to trade Sato for Darius Garland. Cavs have to small point guards in Garland in Sexton. I don’t think that pairing will work. Maybe the bulls can try and con the cavs into taking Sato for Garland or Kevin Porter.



You're pretty funny....

How can you consistently trash Sato and then ask for a recent high lottery pick in exchange? Who would do that? I know you wouldn't if you were the Cavs....and neither would they.
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Post#1790 » by wonderboy2 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:59 pm

gardenofsound wrote:Would anyone say no to this deal?

CHI-->CHA: Young, Satoransky, #4
CHA-->CHI: Batum, #3, #32

Why for Charlotte?
- While Batum is expiring, he's a dead weight contract on a team that desperately needs contributors. As constructed, Thad and Sato would currently start for the Hornets.
- They're only dropping down one draft slot and getting two useful players to replace that dead weight. There's a strong likelihood they get who they would have chosen anyways at #3.
- CHA is not going to become a major player in FA until/unless they get a true franchise player.
- Sato and Young are a lot more tradeable than Batum from a salary matching standpoint.
- I think #32 is fair for the Bulls to ask for in addition to #3... but if necessary the Bulls can send #44 in the deal also.

Why for Chicago?
- Batum is expiring while Sato/Young are guaranteed a combined $11mm in 2021-2022.
- Move up to #3 from #4 is good, though it isn't a huge jump. Like with the Hornets, I'm not sure the Bulls BPA at #3 is any different than at #4.
- #32 gives another shot at a potential contributor in what's believed to be a well distributed draft in terms of talent.

Assuming the Bulls only sign 1yr deals to fill out the roster from there, it leaves them with the flexibility to have enough cap space for two max salaries (AD+Giannis) and then some while still keeping LaVine, White, Carter, and the 2020 #3.

Charlotte says no. Batum is way more valuable then Sato. No team wants him. Bulls will probably have to wait it out a year before they cut him.
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Post#1791 » by sco » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:07 pm

gardenofsound wrote:Would anyone say no to this deal?

CHI-->CHA: Young, Satoransky, #4
CHA-->CHI: Batum, #3, #32

Why for Charlotte?
- While Batum is expiring, he's a dead weight contract on a team that desperately needs contributors. As constructed, Thad and Sato would currently start for the Hornets.
- They're only dropping down one draft slot and getting two useful players to replace that dead weight. There's a strong likelihood they get who they would have chosen anyways at #3.
- CHA is not going to become a major player in FA until/unless they get a true franchise player.
- Sato and Young are a lot more tradeable than Batum from a salary matching standpoint.
- I think #32 is fair for the Bulls to ask for in addition to #3... but if necessary the Bulls can send #44 in the deal also.

Why for Chicago?
- Batum is expiring while Sato/Young are guaranteed a combined $11mm in 2021-2022.
- Move up to #3 from #4 is good, though it isn't a huge jump. Like with the Hornets, I'm not sure the Bulls BPA at #3 is any different than at #4.
- #32 gives another shot at a potential contributor in what's believed to be a well distributed draft in terms of talent.

Assuming the Bulls only sign 1yr deals to fill out the roster from there, it leaves them with the flexibility to have enough cap space for two max salaries (AD+Giannis) and then some while still keeping LaVine, White, Carter, and the 2020 #3.

I think we all agree Batum is Felicio-level done, but they gotta be regretting that Rozier contract, which is 2 years. What about Porter/Markkanen/Sato for Rozier/Filler/#3?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1792 » by MrFortune3 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:21 pm

sco wrote:
Red8911 wrote:Satoransky is not a bad player at all. He’s not a starting PG to lead you to wins but still is a solid role player to have. I hope they keep him and think he would be appreciated more if the bulls actually had a better team.

I want to Draft Edwards. If we did, I'd love to see a bench line-up of Arci, Edwards, Sato, Hutch, Gafford...Even though I like Arci as our primary back-up PG, Sato has versatility value on this roster next season.

That said, was thinking about a deal for Simmons:

Lauri, Otto, Sato for Simmons, Horford, Korkmaz - basically, we need to take on Horford's horrid deal to get Simmons. Al's still a starter-level talent...will give WCJ his shot at PF, Simmons takes the point-forward position.


I don't see how Edwards would fall to us. Minnesota doesn't need a Edwards given that they just took Culver but you could potentially slide Edwards into a 3 G lineup with Russell and Culver.
GS I could see taking Edwards due to his talent and them playing semi small anyway plus you have Thompson and Curry coming back from injury.
Charlotte has already said they care nothing about positional need, they want to take the BPA. They were looking to deal Rozier for Randle last deadline so I could see them moving him to make room for Edwards.

If by some force of basketball God love that Edwards did fall to us...sweet Jesus :nod:
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Post#1793 » by gardenofsound » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:39 pm

wonderboy2 wrote:
gardenofsound wrote:Would anyone say no to this deal?

CHI-->CHA: Young, Satoransky, #4
CHA-->CHI: Batum, #3, #32

Why for Charlotte?
- While Batum is expiring, he's a dead weight contract on a team that desperately needs contributors. As constructed, Thad and Sato would currently start for the Hornets.
- They're only dropping down one draft slot and getting two useful players to replace that dead weight. There's a strong likelihood they get who they would have chosen anyways at #3.
- CHA is not going to become a major player in FA until/unless they get a true franchise player.
- Sato and Young are a lot more tradeable than Batum from a salary matching standpoint.
- I think #32 is fair for the Bulls to ask for in addition to #3... but if necessary the Bulls can send #44 in the deal also.

Why for Chicago?
- Batum is expiring while Sato/Young are guaranteed a combined $11mm in 2021-2022.
- Move up to #3 from #4 is good, though it isn't a huge jump. Like with the Hornets, I'm not sure the Bulls BPA at #3 is any different than at #4.
- #32 gives another shot at a potential contributor in what's believed to be a well distributed draft in terms of talent.

Assuming the Bulls only sign 1yr deals to fill out the roster from there, it leaves them with the flexibility to have enough cap space for two max salaries (AD+Giannis) and then some while still keeping LaVine, White, Carter, and the 2020 #3.

Charlotte says no. Batum is way more valuable then Sato. No team wants him. Bulls will probably have to wait it out a year before they cut him.


I don't see how you could say Batum is more valuable than Sato. Batum was racking up DNP-CD's this past season. I certainly think CHA would value Sato above Batum.[/quote]I don't see how you could say Batum is more valuable than Sato. Batum was racking up DNP-CD's this past season. I certainly think CHA would value Sato above Batum.

sco wrote:I think we all agree Batum is Felicio-level done, but they gotta be regretting that Rozier contract, which is 2 years. What about Porter/Markkanen/Sato for Rozier/Filler/#3?


That's certainly intriguing as it has the Bulls keeping #4 while also getting #3, however I don't like how much cap space that eats up going into the 2021 FA season.

I'm not convinced that it's a bad or good deal, though, which probably means it's reasonable.
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Post#1794 » by Chi town » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:28 am

4th Pick Trades...

Rui
Hunter
Barrett
Herro
Mikal Bridges
MPJ
OG Anunoby
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Post#1795 » by MrSparkle » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:18 am

Chi town wrote:4th Pick Trades...

Rui
Hunter
Barrett
Herro
Mikal Bridges
MPJ
OG Anunoby


What the hell? Really? You don't take a chance on Deni over these guys? Or Even Okoro, Williams or Nesmith?

All these guys have their own red flags. Herro would be an epic sell-high for Riley. Great shooter, great steal of a pick, but he's playing with Butler, Bam and a deep squad.
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Post#1796 » by Chi town » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:43 am

MrSparkle wrote:
Chi town wrote:4th Pick Trades...

Rui
Hunter
Barrett
Herro
Mikal Bridges
MPJ
OG Anunoby


What the hell? Really? You don't take a chance on Deni over these guys? Or Even Okoro, Williams or Nesmith?

All these guys have their own red flags. Herro would be an epic sell-high for Riley. Great shooter, great steal of a pick, but he's playing with Butler, Bam and a deep squad.


Just gauging what people are thinking. Check out the trade board. Everyone wants to keep their guy over the 4th pick. I agree. I’d take Deni over nearly every one of those guys listed. Maybe even Hayes and Okoro too.

BTW I’d trade Lavine for Herro and change. that’s how good of a winner and talent he has. He’s come along way on D too.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1797 » by sco » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:10 pm

If we want out of this draft, what about packaging the pick with Lauri and Otto to find a better piece. What would do folks think that package could net us?
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Post#1798 » by gobullschi » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:25 pm

Chicago Receives:
Miles Bridges & # 3

Charlotte Receives:
Coby White & #4

Bulls add a playmaker and their future SF.
Coby has the NC connection.

LaMelo Ball / Ryan Arcidiacano
Zacah LaVine / Adam Mokoko
Otto Porter Jr / Miles Bridges
Lauri Markkanen / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr / Daniel Gafford
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Post#1799 » by drosereturn » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:29 pm

gobullschi wrote:Chicago Receives:
Miles Bridges & # 3

Charlotte Receives:
Coby White & #4

Bulls add a playmaker and their future SF.
Coby has the NC connection.

LaMelo Ball / Ryan Arcidiacano
Zacah LaVine / Adam Mokoko
Otto Porter Jr / Miles Bridges
Lauri Markkanen / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr / Daniel Gafford


great idea. guarantees Ball and makes space for Lavine since everyone knows they cannot coexist.
Always liked Bridges better than sg White bc he has a impressive build with elite athleticism. He just needs a chance like Mikal.
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Post#1800 » by Bulldog23 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:23 pm

Trade suggestion: Zack to Atlanta for Huerter/Dedmon/#6 pick.

The Bulls keep the #4 pick and they get #6. Huerter provides more shooting. Dedmon is a solid back up center in the rotation.

OR The Bulls send Zack for Hunter/Dedmon and no pick coming back. Hunter provides another wing behind Porter.

Atlanta would be excited to pair Zack next to Trae. It allows Zack to move off the ball and just be a scorer. Atlanta looks like a good trade partner.

Bulls could also include Sato/Thad as well in these scenarios.

I am hoping that the Bulls pick Hayes at #4, I think his game will mess well with the Wendal and Laurie because of his passing.

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