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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1001 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:19 pm

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If Dinwiddie leaves in free agency, and we get nothing in return, that would be a huge blow to our depth.

And it seems like Dinwiddie is saying there, that 4/62 is not getting it done for him. He's probably looking for something between 4/75 and 4/100 after he opts out.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1002 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:34 pm

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If Dinwiddie leaves in free agency, and we get nothing in return, that would be a huge blow to our depth.

And it seems like Dinwiddie is saying there, that 4/62 is not getting it done for him. He's probably looking for something between 4/75 and 4/100 after he opts out.


and he would be right to do so. guys that put up 21/4/7 are going to get paid in the league, and Spencer should get his money. The dude has busted his ass. I just hope we can get one good run with him next season.

We could always facilitate a sign and trade after next season so everyone parts on good terms.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1003 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:58 pm

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7footMONSTER wrote:
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If Dinwiddie leaves in free agency, and we get nothing in return, that would be a huge blow to our depth.

And it seems like Dinwiddie is saying there, that 4/62 is not getting it done for him. He's probably looking for something between 4/75 and 4/100 after he opts out.


and he would be right to do so. guys that put up 21/4/7 are going to get paid in the league, and Spencer should get his money. The dude has busted his ass. I just hope we can get one good run with him next season.

We could always facilitate a sign and trade after next season so everyone parts on good terms.

Most certainly and I should have said as much in the post you quoted, I didn't mean to leave that open to interpretation or to insinuate he's greedy or putting himself above the team or anything else negative.

I've been a rollercoaster with my takes on Dinwiddie over the years, but truth be told, if you could promise me he'd re-up here, at least after next season, he opts out and sign a 3 year deal with the 3rd a player option, and you also told me one of him or Caris had to be dealt to bring in the right player, this off-season, I'm voting for Spence every time. He's the better player, the better defender, more athletic, the better shooter, the better off ball player, the better finisher and works almost equally as well in the starting lineup or off the bench and is only a year older, almost exactly then Caris and seems to stay healthier.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1004 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:23 pm

Hail Mary time!

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Jarrett Allen
Nic Claxton
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1005 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:51 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Hail Mary time!

Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert
Jarrett Allen
Nic Claxton
Dzanan Musa
19th overall pick
'21 BK 1st with top 4 protection

OKC:
SGA
Steven Adams


OKC would hang up the phone. SGA is going to be an all star.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1006 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:55 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Hail Mary time!

Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert
Jarrett Allen
Nic Claxton
Dzanan Musa
19th overall pick
'21 BK 1st with top 4 protection

OKC:
SGA
Steven Adams


OKC would hang up the phone. SGA is going to be an all star.

Like I was saying, Hail Mary time! :lol:
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1007 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:59 pm

Spencer is going to ask for too much money. He's a good player but he puts up good numbers on bad efficiency.

And he can't shoot at all.

I still think we should move him if we can get something back of value. Either a wing defender or another shooter.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1008 » by DarkXaero » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:23 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Spencer is going to ask for too much money. He's a good player but he puts up good numbers on bad efficiency.

And he can't shoot at all.


I still think we should move him if we can get something back of value. Either a wing defender or another shooter.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1009 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:57 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Spencer is going to ask for too much money. He's a good player but he puts up good numbers on bad efficiency.

And he can't shoot at all.


I still think we should move him if we can get something back of value. Either a wing defender or another shooter.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


LOL not everything has to be about your irrational hatred for Caris dude.

Find a new slant. :lol:
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1010 » by DarkXaero » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:03 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Spencer is going to ask for too much money. He's a good player but he puts up good numbers on bad efficiency.

And he can't shoot at all.


I still think we should move him if we can get something back of value. Either a wing defender or another shooter.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


LOL not everything has to be about your irrational hatred for Caris dude.

Find a new slant. :lol:
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1011 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:25 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Spencer is going to ask for too much money. He's a good player but he puts up good numbers on bad efficiency.

And he can't shoot at all.

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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1012 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:13 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Hail Mary time!

Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert
Jarrett Allen
Nic Claxton
Dzanan Musa
19th overall pick
'21 BK 1st with top 4 protection

OKC:
SGA
Steven Adams


OKC would hang up the phone. SGA is going to be an all star.

Like I was saying, Hail Mary time! :lol:

I dare call that the “annexation of Puerto Rico”...... LG reference?
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1013 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:18 am

I’d be shocked if Pop left SA.... but anything can happen I guess..... he would have to work a wonder with the supporting cast as currently constructed... I can see Kurocs and Musa never seeing the floor even in blowouts if they don’t buy in and get it together for him.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1014 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:28 am

Gotta fix the PF situation, I know I’m captain obvious there.... I just don’t know how to substantially improve via trade without moving Spencer and/or Caris.... So it’ll be hard to tell... probably see how they all play collectively by mid year?

ATM, Projected Starting lineup?
Irving - Caris - Durant - X - Allen/DJ
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Irving - X - Harris - Durant - Allen/DJ >> this lineup I may be more in favor for, Durant playing the PF spot may not be ideal defensively throughout the series as he would have more wear n tear thus unlikely...

Almost have to ask yourself, which is easier to find via FA at a reasonable cost, starting SG or PF? And which position improves our team the most, SG or PF?
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1015 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:59 am

CalamityX12 wrote:Gotta fix the PF situation, I know I’m captain obvious there.... I just don’t know how to substantially improve via trade without moving Spencer and/or Caris.... So it’ll be hard to tell... probably see how they all play collectively by mid year?

ATM, Projected Starting lineup?
Irving - Caris - Durant - X - Allen/DJ
Or
Irving - X - Harris - Durant - Allen/DJ >> this lineup I may be more in favor for, Durant playing the PF spot may not be ideal defensively throughout the series as he would have more wear n tear thus unlikely...

Almost have to ask yourself, which is easier to find via FA at a reasonable cost, starting SG or PF? And which position improves our team the most, SG or PF?


How many PFs will Kevin Durant struggle against? Especially in the East?
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1016 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:07 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Gotta fix the PF situation, I know I’m captain obvious there.... I just don’t know how to substantially improve via trade without moving Spencer and/or Caris.... So it’ll be hard to tell... probably see how they all play collectively by mid year?

ATM, Projected Starting lineup?
Irving - Caris - Durant - X - Allen/DJ
Or
Irving - X - Harris - Durant - Allen/DJ >> this lineup I may be more in favor for, Durant playing the PF spot may not be ideal defensively throughout the series as he would have more wear n tear thus unlikely...

Almost have to ask yourself, which is easier to find via FA at a reasonable cost, starting SG or PF? And which position improves our team the most, SG or PF?


How many PFs will Kevin Durant struggle against? Especially in the East?

Hmmmmmmm..... I can’t think of bruising types at the moment or vocal pts on offense? Horford comes close but not a big deal since I’m sure they won’t have Horford on Durant the other way thus minimal pairing I guess...

Hmmm indeed.... Indiana’s Sabonis? But again not likely.... hmmmmmmmmm so maybe Durant at the 4 then... makes filling the 2 spot easier
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1017 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:57 am

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Gotta fix the PF situation, I know I’m captain obvious there.... I just don’t know how to substantially improve via trade without moving Spencer and/or Caris.... So it’ll be hard to tell... probably see how they all play collectively by mid year?

ATM, Projected Starting lineup?
Irving - Caris - Durant - X - Allen/DJ
Or
Irving - X - Harris - Durant - Allen/DJ >> this lineup I may be more in favor for, Durant playing the PF spot may not be ideal defensively throughout the series as he would have more wear n tear thus unlikely...

Almost have to ask yourself, which is easier to find via FA at a reasonable cost, starting SG or PF? And which position improves our team the most, SG or PF?


How many PFs will Kevin Durant struggle against? Especially in the East?

Hmmmmmmm..... I can’t think of bruising types at the moment or vocal pts on offense? Horford comes close but not a big deal since I’m sure they won’t have Horford on Durant the other way thus minimal pairing I guess...

Hmmm indeed.... Indiana’s Sabonis? But again not likely.... hmmmmmmmmm so maybe Durant at the 4 then... makes filling the 2 spot easier

Durant is the 4 unless he's playing the 5 in a small lineup. Players have typically moved up a position later in their career due to diminished athleticism. Coming off an achilles injury, that's probably especially true for Durant. He likely has more success bodying up than staying in front of quicker wings. You wish Joe was big enough to body PFs. It's where the RoCo, Tobias, Gordon type hybrid forward would be very useful, so that you can play KD on the better matchup. Joe's shooting is needed between KD and Kyrie though. It probably outweighs the defensive flexibility.

I'm more worried about the perimeter. I don't like the idea of Kyrie, Harris and LeVert/Dinwiddie defensively.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1018 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:22 pm

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How many PFs will Kevin Durant struggle against? Especially in the East?

Hmmmmmmm..... I can’t think of bruising types at the moment or vocal pts on offense? Horford comes close but not a big deal since I’m sure they won’t have Horford on Durant the other way thus minimal pairing I guess...

Hmmm indeed.... Indiana’s Sabonis? But again not likely.... hmmmmmmmmm so maybe Durant at the 4 then... makes filling the 2 spot easier

Durant is the 4 unless he's playing the 5 in a small lineup. Players have typically moved up a position later in their career due to diminished athleticism. Coming off an achilles injury, that's probably especially true for Durant. He likely has more success bodying up than staying in front of quicker wings. You wish Joe was big enough to body PFs. It's where the RoCo, Tobias, Gordon type hybrid forward would be very useful, so that you can play KD on the better matchup. Joe's shooting is needed between KD and Kyrie though. It probably outweighs the defensive flexibility.

I'm more worried about the perimeter. I don't like the idea of Kyrie, Harris and LeVert/Dinwiddie defensively.


Which is why we need to get an athletic wing that can defend on the roster. Marks has got to fix this team's defensive issues.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1019 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:46 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Hmmmmmmm..... I can’t think of bruising types at the moment or vocal pts on offense? Horford comes close but not a big deal since I’m sure they won’t have Horford on Durant the other way thus minimal pairing I guess...

Hmmm indeed.... Indiana’s Sabonis? But again not likely.... hmmmmmmmmm so maybe Durant at the 4 then... makes filling the 2 spot easier

Durant is the 4 unless he's playing the 5 in a small lineup. Players have typically moved up a position later in their career due to diminished athleticism. Coming off an achilles injury, that's probably especially true for Durant. He likely has more success bodying up than staying in front of quicker wings. You wish Joe was big enough to body PFs. It's where the RoCo, Tobias, Gordon type hybrid forward would be very useful, so that you can play KD on the better matchup. Joe's shooting is needed between KD and Kyrie though. It probably outweighs the defensive flexibility.

I'm more worried about the perimeter. I don't like the idea of Kyrie, Harris and LeVert/Dinwiddie defensively.


Which is why we need to get an athletic wing that can defend on the roster. Marks has got to fix this team's defensive issues.

With so few of these guys seemingly available, we really need to find our own Royce O'Neale, Mikal Bridges, PJ Washington, etc.

That's why you either have to get lucky drafting a guy like this, trade for a hidden gem or find an untouted free agent. But I feel like what you almost always have to do with these guys, is trust a young player, probably not yet noted for his defensive chops at the NBA level, with a big role on defense. Then if you didn't draft the guy or find him on the scrap heap, you have to get creative and take advantage of a team with a guy buried behind so much other depth, that even if the coach and GM know what they have, they can't find many minutes for him and can't even get much overall value for him in trade.

Enter Keita Bates-Diop.

He's hidden under a pile of dirty uniforms and towels on the floor of the team's laundry room, behind guys like Barton, Grant, Porter Jr, even Gary Harris and Torrey Craig.

Maybe you can simply throw them Musa and one of our better future 2nds?

I'd take that chance all day.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#1020 » by GTR11 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:34 pm

I think we got our teams set for the next year. Prince going to start at the four, Caris at the two and DJ well y'all know the rest.
My thing is, how real is this Pop to BK thing. Tsai been very quiet about direction he wants to go ( not that he talks about it much ). Will he support JV if Pop's transaction fails? To be frank, I don't like any coaches that been linked to us.

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