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[dougthonus]

The problem for OKC with Westbrook and PG13 is that they had no real balance. Same thing with the Sixers.
Once they landed Paul and Shai it helped their balance along with allow Schroder to take on a more prominent role.

That sounds like just a problem with Westbrook really. I mean you just said adding two PGs and a 3rd PG stepping up improved their balance when they lost a PG and a SF. I don't necessarily think you're wrong either. Just that it's pretty damning towards Westbrook and maybe a bit towards George.

[MrFortune3]

The problem for OKC with Westbrook and PG13 is that they had no real balance. Same thing with the Sixers.
Once they landed Paul and Shai it helped their balance along with allow Schroder to take on a more prominent role.

That sounds like just a problem with Westbrook really. I mean you just said adding two PGs and a 3rd PG stepping up improved their balance when they lost a PG and a SF. I don't necessarily think you're wrong either. Just that it's pretty damning towards Westbrook and maybe a bit towards George.

It's also an issue with them loading up around Westbrook, PG13 and Melo. Their depth, spacing, and roster balance improved because they lost massive amounts of salary and got players who were better suited to sharing the ball.

[kodo]

After getting four future 1st round picks for George + Westbrook while also massively reducing salary, the Thunder had the best season since Durant left and now have clinched, at a minimum, tying their best playoff performance since that time (which was a 2-4 series loss).

Would be hilariously awesome if the Thunder beat the Rockets.

They said during the broadcast that OKC boasts the best 5 man combination in the league- can't remember who they said it was composed of, other than Shai was on it.

Yeah it's the 3 PG lineup. CP3, SGA, Schroder with Gallo as a the stretch 4 and Adams in for defense. You've got 3 ballhandlers who all shoot very well and probably the league's best stretch 4 and one true big who doesn't want or need the ball in his hands, he just focuses on defense and knocking defenders down on screens.

At least this was the case in the regular season, not sure who the best playoff 5 man is.

[Dresden]

After getting four future 1st round picks for George + Westbrook while also massively reducing salary, the Thunder had the best season since Durant left and now have clinched, at a minimum, tying their best playoff performance since that time (which was a 2-4 series loss).

Would be hilariously awesome if the Thunder beat the Rockets.

They said during the broadcast that OKC boasts the best 5 man combination in the league- can't remember who they said it was composed of, other than Shai was on it.

Yeah it's the 3 PG lineup. CP3, SGA, Schroder with Gallo as a the stretch 4 and Adams in for defense. You've got 3 ballhandlers who all shoot very well and probably the league's best stretch 4 and one true big who doesn't want or need the ball in his hands, he just focuses on defense and knocking defenders down on screens.

At least this was the case in the regular season, not sure who the best playoff 5 man is.

interesting. That's why all this talk about who is our pg, or where will Coby play is rather pointless.

[othawhitemeat]

Miami shoots 52 free throws.

For comparison, in the 98 Finals last game, even with MJ, the Bulls as a team attempted 19 total free throws.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29719737/pacers-nate-mcmillan-irked-heat-taking-ridiculous-52-free-throws

A major factor in the defeat was that the Heat went to the free throw line a staggering 52 times, including 20 trips for Heat forward Jimmy Butler alone. The Pacers went 28 times.

"I can't explain that," Pacers coach Nate McMillan said after the game. "I mean, 52 free throws is ridiculous. They had 24 at the half, Butler shoots 20 of them ... this is the playoffs, and I thought some of those calls were ... I can't explain it."

I get as a product the NBA doesn't want to go back to the 90s, but turning it into a game of HORSE isn't entertaining either. I'd prefer low post play if the alternative is watching free throws and commercials for most of the game.

I mean I do enjoy watching Steph/Dame go off, but overall, I miss the physical style of defense that was allowed. I hate seeing floppers being rewarded for swinging their arms into contact or players acting like they got hit by a Mike Tyson punch for flopping. As much as Manu is one of my favorite players ever, I really miss the contact of late 90's/early 2000's.

[Andi Obst]

As a Sixers fan I would probably hate Elton Brand already, but his press conference where he spoke about their future would make me absolutely hopeless for the future. The guy is Vlade-level bad and will most likely come out of this with MORE power. Incredible.

[TheSuzerain]

Miami shoots 52 free throws.

For comparison, in the 98 Finals last game, even with MJ, the Bulls as a team attempted 19 total free throws.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29719737/pacers-nate-mcmillan-irked-heat-taking-ridiculous-52-free-throws

A major factor in the defeat was that the Heat went to the free throw line a staggering 52 times, including 20 trips for Heat forward Jimmy Butler alone. The Pacers went 28 times.

"I can't explain that," Pacers coach Nate McMillan said after the game. "I mean, 52 free throws is ridiculous. They had 24 at the half, Butler shoots 20 of them ... this is the playoffs, and I thought some of those calls were ... I can't explain it."

I get as a product the NBA doesn't want to go back to the 90s, but turning it into a game of HORSE isn't entertaining either. I'd prefer low post play if the alternative is watching free throws and commercials for most of the game.

I mean I do enjoy watching Steph/Dame go off, but overall, I miss the physical style of defense that was allowed. I hate seeing floppers being rewarded for swinging their arms into contact or players acting like they got hit by a Mike Tyson punch for flopping. As much as Manu is one of my favorite players ever, I really miss the contact of late 90's/early 2000's.

You guys realize there were more Free throws in the 90s and early 2000s than today right?

[othawhitemeat]

Miami shoots 52 free throws.

For comparison, in the 98 Finals last game, even with MJ, the Bulls as a team attempted 19 total free throws.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29719737/pacers-nate-mcmillan-irked-heat-taking-ridiculous-52-free-throws



I get as a product the NBA doesn't want to go back to the 90s, but turning it into a game of HORSE isn't entertaining either. I'd prefer low post play if the alternative is watching free throws and commercials for most of the game.

I mean I do enjoy watching Steph/Dame go off, but overall, I miss the physical style of defense that was allowed. I hate seeing floppers being rewarded for swinging their arms into contact or players acting like they got hit by a Mike Tyson punch for flopping. As much as Manu is one of my favorite players ever, I really miss the contact of late 90's/early 2000's.

You guys realize there were more Free throws in the 90s and early 2000s than today right?

Did that include flopping to where Harden gets like 10 ft's a game and other players that shoot 3's but per game more average free throws? I mean there is little d in today's game. Yes, the 3 point shooting is much better, but literally I watch the D and think really, is that the best we have in defense. Perimeter players that literally hang on the perimeter most of the game get to the FT line a lot by just swinging their arms or by kicking off. If there are less ft's in today's game, there should be. It is either shoot a 3 or get into the lane.

[TheSuzerain]

I mean I do enjoy watching Steph/Dame go off, but overall, I miss the physical style of defense that was allowed. I hate seeing floppers being rewarded for swinging their arms into contact or players acting like they got hit by a Mike Tyson punch for flopping. As much as Manu is one of my favorite players ever, I really miss the contact of late 90's/early 2000's.

You guys realize there were more Free throws in the 90s and early 2000s than today right?

Did that include flopping to where Harden gets like 10 ft's a game and other players that shoot 3's but per game more average free throws? I mean there is little d in today's game. Yes, the 3 point shooting is much better, but literally I watch the D and think really, is that the best we have in defense. Perimeter players that literally hang on the perimeter most of the game get to the FT line a lot by just swinging their arms or by kicking off. If there are less ft's in today's game, there should be. It is either shoot a 3 or get into the lane.

It includes free throws shot in the game.

There are less now than in MJ's day. For the exact reason you give in that there's less post play. Post play often led to fouls and free throws.

[MalagaBulls]

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[MrSparkle]

After getting four future 1st round picks for George + Westbrook while also massively reducing salary, the Thunder had the best season since Durant left and now have clinched, at a minimum, tying their best playoff performance since that time (which was a 2-4 series loss).

Would be hilariously awesome if the Thunder beat the Rockets.

They said during the broadcast that OKC boasts the best 5 man combination in the league- can't remember who they said it was composed of, other than Shai was on it.

Yeah it's the 3 PG lineup. CP3, SGA, Schroder with Gallo as a the stretch 4 and Adams in for defense. You've got 3 ballhandlers who all shoot very well and probably the league's best stretch 4 and one true big who doesn't want or need the ball in his hands, he just focuses on defense and knocking defenders down on screens.

At least this was the case in the regular season, not sure who the best playoff 5 man is.

Adams is a defensive machine. I don't think he's gotten enough credit during those years where 'MVP' Westbrook kept carrying them to the playoffs. Consummate intangibles center, like Noah but stronger, better screen-setter and entirely ball un-reliant (which is great if you have elite playmakers like Russ or CP3).

When he became "available" last summer, I half-considered he'd be a good trade idea, but just seeing the number of prospect big men on this dumb roster, I said nah... but in hindsight, with the way Wendell and Lauri looked, he might've been a good buy-low.

[PaKii94]

They said during the broadcast that OKC boasts the best 5 man combination in the league- can't remember who they said it was composed of, other than Shai was on it.

Yeah it's the 3 PG lineup. CP3, SGA, Schroder with Gallo as a the stretch 4 and Adams in for defense. You've got 3 ballhandlers who all shoot very well and probably the league's best stretch 4 and one true big who doesn't want or need the ball in his hands, he just focuses on defense and knocking defenders down on screens.

At least this was the case in the regular season, not sure who the best playoff 5 man is.

Adams is a defensive machine. I don't think he's gotten enough credit during those years where 'MVP' Westbrook kept carrying them to the playoffs. Consummate intangibles center, like Noah but stronger, better screen-setter and entirely ball un-reliant (which is great if you have elite playmakers like Russ or CP3).

When he became "available" last summer, I half-considered he'd be a good trade idea, but just seeing the number of prospect big men on this dumb roster, I said nah... but in hindsight, with the way Wendell and Lauri looked, he might've been a good buy-low.

Sorry but Adam doesn't score points. We don't like non scorers on this team

[MrSparkle]

Yeah it's the 3 PG lineup. CP3, SGA, Schroder with Gallo as a the stretch 4 and Adams in for defense. You've got 3 ballhandlers who all shoot very well and probably the league's best stretch 4 and one true big who doesn't want or need the ball in his hands, he just focuses on defense and knocking defenders down on screens.

At least this was the case in the regular season, not sure who the best playoff 5 man is.

Adams is a defensive machine. I don't think he's gotten enough credit during those years where 'MVP' Westbrook kept carrying them to the playoffs. Consummate intangibles center, like Noah but stronger, better screen-setter and entirely ball un-reliant (which is great if you have elite playmakers like Russ or CP3).

When he became "available" last summer, I half-considered he'd be a good trade idea, but just seeing the number of prospect big men on this dumb roster, I said nah... but in hindsight, with the way Wendell and Lauri looked, he might've been a good buy-low.

Sorry but Adam doesn't score points. We don't like non scorers on this team

Ha that's right. From the all-defensive team (Deng, Noah, Taj, Jimmy) to the non-defensive team (Valentine, Bobby, Lauri, Zach).

[MrFortune3]

They said during the broadcast that OKC boasts the best 5 man combination in the league- can't remember who they said it was composed of, other than Shai was on it.

Yeah it's the 3 PG lineup. CP3, SGA, Schroder with Gallo as a the stretch 4 and Adams in for defense. You've got 3 ballhandlers who all shoot very well and probably the league's best stretch 4 and one true big who doesn't want or need the ball in his hands, he just focuses on defense and knocking defenders down on screens.

At least this was the case in the regular season, not sure who the best playoff 5 man is.

interesting. That's why all this talk about who is our pg, or where will Coby play is rather pointless.

Not quite. Paul and SGA are pretty solid defensively. Zach and Cody are question marks on D right now.

[DASMACKDOWN]

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Wow that means Giannis could win MVP and DPOY in the same season. That would rank him as one of the best all-time seasons.

Honestly I don\t get that sense to me personally, but from a pure textbook point of view it will.

[MrSparkle]

Jokic’s teammates are s****ing the bed in an elimination game.

[MrSparkle]

Jerami Grant with 4 clutch clanks in a row. Man, those kids sure are Harvey’s.

Murray’s 4th Q has been insane.

I really do see him as a model for Coby.

[MrSparkle]

I know everyone’s still crying about MPJ, but man. If I was a Nuggets fan, I’d want to trade this guy for Wendell after the last sequence.

[Jvaughn]

I know he's a more potent scorer, but watching Jamal Murray go off like he has this series, gets me excited about what s more seasoned Coby can do in an established offense.

[kodo]

Jamal Murray single handedly won that game. Did he have 33 in the 2nd half? Can't believe he's only 22.