The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part IV

ProcessDoctor · Post #721 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:38 pm

Kobblehead wrote:He needs to bulk up like prime Blake, then.

Blake was a 260 pound bull.

Simmons is a sleek 235, dripping wet.

I wonder what his anatomy can tolerate though? Back and knee injuries this season weighing slightly more than last season. I think 245 is best case scenario without him breaking down.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #722 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:44 pm

Some of you are out there with these ideas that Simmons should be traded for Wiggins or that Simmons should gain 30 pounds of muscle like it's not problem and suddenly become Blake Griffin. I personally think it's a rather simple fix. I think the right type of players need to be put around Ben and Embiid. You can't have Al Horford and Tobias Harris out there with them. I also think Brett and company have been too soft on both of them. We don't need the top three players in the game plus Embiid and Simmons to win a title. I think Ben Simmons just needs to be turned the hell loose. Give him the keys to the team and let him go nuts. Between him and Embiid, it's a one two punch and everyone else is along for the ride to give support and hit shots where and when they are needed. Ben Simmons should be averaging 25 ppg right now along with damn near a triple double. Embiid should be the most dominant big man in the game. The reason this isn't happening is because of the leadership in place at positions like...well...Head coach. You have a complete dumbass for a GM in Elton Brand that signed two power forwards to max contracts and now we want to play Simmons at power forward.

So....Before we go crazy with the trade ideas, lets see what this roster can do without Brett Brown, without Elton Brand. The owner Josh Harris doesn't seem to care either way as long as his pockets stay fat. I think we need to hire a different coach though. I think we need to absolutely find a trade partner for Tobias Harris. I think young guys like Shake Milton, Zhaire Smith, Furkan Korkmaz, and Thybulle need to continue developing. We're about to get swept by Boston and a lot of you are just assuming that the same exact thing would be happening had we had a healthy Ben Simmons for this series. I vehemently disagree with that assertion on so many different levels! I believe Ben Simmons is the most important player on this team for us.

The thing about this season is that nobody was really able to stay healthy. We had stretches where we were without Embiid and then Simmons had his issues. This whole season has just been a crapshow, but I don't think trading Simmons or Embiid is the answer just yet. Lets try and move some of the pieces that don't fit first. We're going to regret trading either one of them. You can't solely rely on Embiid to carry a team right now, and Simmons is a flight risk once his contract is up anyway. I can say this confidently though...Neither Ben or Joel have peaked yet. That's something to think about.

First pick · Post #723 » by **First pick** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:09 pm

Looks like Ben has moved on from the playoff loss already.

Read on Twitter

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This guy will never be great, unfortunately. Not fully invested in becoming one if the best in the league. Oh well.

Negrodamus · Post #724 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:12 pm

We could trade him to Min so he and Towns become full time gamers and completely bail on basketball.

Negrodamus · Post #725 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:55 pm

Read on Twitter

Got some votes.

Kobblehead · Post #726 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:42 pm

Rudy G lol. Terrible defender.

elchengue20 · Post #727 » by **elchengue20** » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:58 pm

Beal to us, Simmons to Wolves, 1st pick to Washington....Let's do it.

Post #728 » by **Stanford** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:06 am

I think Ben should have been second in the voting, honestly.

mithrandir17 · Post #729 » by **mithrandir17** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:33 am

So Ben is definitely on the NBA First Defensive team?

Post #730 » by **Stanford** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:22 am

Oh **** ben part of faze clan we out here get it, Simmo, the Savage

Bum Adebayo · Post #731 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:06 am

Where is Joel Embiid in that list? I mean, he is an elite defender right? Jarrett Allen is ahead of him? lmao

elchengue20 · Post #732 » by **elchengue20** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:18 pm

So Ben is the best perimeter defender in the league. Sounds accurate. Still couldn't prevent Khawi destroying us last season.

76ciology · Post #733 » by **76ciology** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:24 pm

elchengue20 wrote:So Ben is the best perimeter defender in the league. Sounds accurate. Still couldn't prevent Khawi destroying us last season.

Someone tell Ben that we want him to be a scorer. If we want a defensive wing who can’t shoot or score, we’d just pay for Michael Kidd Gilchrist.

Don’t try to divert the constructive criticism with “but im an allstar” or “but im a runner up for DPOY”

76ciology · Post #734 » by **76ciology** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:30 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Rudy G lol. Terrible defender.

I disagree. He even improved a lot on his defense this season. There was a stat about how much he has improved defending the perimeter to counter the teams who likes to bring him out on switches.

Gobert also leads the league in DRPM.

Bum Adebayo · Post #735 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:37 pm

Gobert is a dinosaur but a much weaker one, unlike Embiid, one won the genetic lottery as a dinosaur and Gobert is just a slightly above average dinosaur.

76ciology · Post #736 » by **76ciology** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:42 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Gobert is a dinosaur but a much weaker one, unlike Embiid, one won the genetic lottery as a dinosaur and Gobert is just a slightly above average dinosaur.

I can see that you like dinosaur based on your avatar

What kind of dinosaur would you compare Embiid and Gobert?

Bum Adebayo · Post #737 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:44 pm

76ciology wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Gobert is a dinosaur but a much weaker one, unlike Embiid, one won the genetic lottery as a dinosaur and Gobert is just a slightly above average dinosaur.

I can see that you like dinosaur based on your avatar

What kind of dinosaur would you compare Embiid and Gobert?

I don't know much about dinosaurs, but when you have one on your team, you learn to appreciate it more.

76ciology · Post #738 » by **76ciology** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:45 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Gobert is a dinosaur but a much weaker one, unlike Embiid, one won the genetic lottery as a dinosaur and Gobert is just a slightly above average dinosaur.

I can see that you like dinosaur based on your avatar

What kind of dinosaur would you compare Embiid and Gobert?

I don't know much about dinosaurs, but when you have one on your team, you learn to appreciate it more.

eagereyez · Post #739 » by **eagereyez** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:10 pm

76ciology wrote:
elchengue20 wrote:So Ben is the best perimeter defender in the league. Sounds accurate. Still couldn't prevent Khawi destroying us last season.

Someone tell Ben that we want him to be a scorer. If we want a defensive wing who can’t shoot or score, we’d just pay for Michael Kidd Gilchrist.

Don’t try to divert the constructive criticism with “but im an allstar” or “but im a runner up for DPOY”

Or Rondo, Rubio, Roberson, etc. Being a defense-oriented perimeter player in a league where all the rules cater to offense is like trying to swim up a waterfall.

Eyeamok · Post #740 » by **Eyeamok** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:17 pm

elchengue20 wrote:So Ben is the best perimeter defender in the league. Sounds accurate. Still couldn't prevent Khawi destroying us last season.

You learn through trials by fire and you get better.