Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[Arsenal]

How about JRich as the "prospect"? I wouldn't give up Thybulle or #21 for him.

HOU out: Gordon, Tucker
HOU in: Horford

OKC out: Paul
OKC in: Richardson, Gordon, Tucker (exp), #36, #58

PHI out: Richardson, Horford, #36, #58
PHI in: Paul

Followed by Harris + Smith for Hield (your boy ) + Bjelica


Paul(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Korkmaz(12)/Milton(4)
Thybulle(30)/Simmons(14)/Korkmaz(4)
Simmons(20)/Bjelica(28)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Paul/Milton/Micic
Hield/Korkmaz/#49
Thybulle/#21/#34
Simmons/Bjelica/Scott
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

tucker is the perfect small ball 4 for houston.. and why in gods name is OKC getting 3 good players and 2 picks for paul? why are we treating paul like lebron james?

Houston doesn't skip a beat, they just slide Covington to the 4:

Westbrook/Rivers
Harden/Mclemore
House
Covington/Carroll
Horford/Green


I've told you, specifically, several times that Chris Paul is still a very high impact player. He ranks at the top in every advanced metric. He's the biggest reason the Thunder made a playoff push in the first place and are tied 2-2 with Houston. I personally think that's a fair package for him. Would you be willing to share what you think he's worth?

This deal is great for us and looks pretty good for OKC and HOU. I really think this is the best approach, to use JRich as the value add in moving Horford for a better (perfect) fit in Chris Paul. We will NOT be able to resign JRich after next season anyway due to our super bloated payroll, so this is the best use for him.

[Arsenal]

I'd personally move Ben back to the point guard position and play Harris at power forward IF we can't find a deal for him. Let Shake and JRich guard backcourt players and Simmons check the small forwards on opposite teams. We can sign Tyler Johnson, and Bryan Forbes to reasonable contracts.

Or.. If possible. Portland fans seem to be open to trading CJ for Tobias Harris. That's honestly the deal I would do. CJ/Shake backcourt and find a trade for Richardson. Sign affordable athletic wings...There are some available Alfonso Mckinnie, Josh Jackson, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, Demarre Carroll all can be signed within our price range.

I would also look to deal Mike Scott who is expiring. Maybe send him and Richardson together?

Tobias (plus minor assets if needed) for CJ is exactly what we need. A big 3 of Ben/Joel/CJ is a perfect complementary fit, which we've never had before.

Then try to combine JRich and Horford to get a versatile forward, call him SF-X. 3&D type would be fine. Ability to make plays off the dribble is a nice bonus, but range shooting is a higher priority to space the floor. Get a cheap FA big to round it out.

PG CJ | #21
SG Thybulle | Shake
SF SF-X | Kork
PF Simmons
CE Embiid | Cheap FA

This team can make a run next year.

[davesilver]

Warriors
Out: Wiggins, 2021 1st (not the Minny)
In: Tobias Harris, 2020 Sixers #36

New Orleans
Out: Jrue, JJ
In: Al, Richardson, Furkan, 2021 GSW 1st, 2020 Sixers 1st (via OKC)

Sixers
Out: Al, Jrich, Furkan, 2020 Sixers #36
In: Jrue, JJ, Wiggins

Warriors
Steph
Klay
Tobias
Draymond
Wiseman

New Orleans
Lonzo
Richardson
Ingram
Zion
Al

Sixers
Jrue
JJ
Wiggins
Ben
Embiid

I actually think Wiggins still has potential to be a viable option next to Ben to Embiid. Bringing in JJ and Wigs would make Embiid happy. You could always have him come off the bench for Matisse. Jrue's shot creation and perimeter defense would bring this team to the next level.

[stormi]

Embiid for CJ, Nurkic, Trent Jr, two firsts.

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Too much to give up for Portland I feel

Hate it personally.

[51X3RF4N]

PHI out: Josh Richardson, #21

PHI in: JJ Redick, #13

Philly selects Saddiq Bey at #13.

Embiid/Horford
Harris
Bey/Thybulle
Shake/JJ/Korkmaz
Simmons

Shake and Korkmaz spend another year training with JJ on how to run the 2 man game with Joel. Ben has catch and shoot threats in 3 of the starting spots.

Keeps Joel happy 1 more year while hopefully giving Shake enough training to take over for JJ and make Joel really happy, and as a side benefit form an unstoppable offensive set for years to come.

Other moves still needed, like finding a backup PG and PF upgrade but Zhaire and Mike Scott could accomplish that.

[Sam Hinkie]

I am not even sure NOP trades JJ for Richardson straight up.

[51X3RF4N]

I am not even sure NOP trades JJ for Richardson straight up.

Why not? Richardson is the better player and fits their timeline better.

[ILOVEIT]

Harris, Richardson, Scott
For
Conley, Bogdanovic

Sixers get a veteran lead guard and a sniper. The Jazz get a scorer that they had interest in this summer and a perimeter defender.

CHI: Andrew Wiggins, #2 overall, #21 overall, #36 overall
GSW: Al Horford, Zhaire Smith, #4 overall
PHI: Zach LaVine, Thad Young

The Bulls move on from LaVine, moving up in the draft to pair White with Ball in their backcourt.

The Warriors get a bad player for a quality veteran center at the cost of sliding back 2 spots in the draft.

The Sixers get a scoring guard.

Sign Alex Len (minimum)
Sign Noah Vonleh (minimum)

Hire Jay Wright

G Mike Conley
G Matisse Thybulle
F Bojan Bogdanovic
F Ben Simmons
C Joel Embiid
6 Zach LaVine (plays starter minutes and closes games)
7 Thad Young
8 Shake Milton
...

Sixers add a ton of shooting and perimeter playmaking while still having a solid base to be a very good defensive team. Conley gives them a steady hand at the point that can run pick and roll, be a spot up and shooter, and defend the point of attack. LaVine would need some serious convincing to come off the bench, but he'd be an amazing 6th man. Young intrigues me as a small ball 5 off the bench in an uptempo, Simmons lineup. Long-term salary picture looks a lot brighter after this.

This Warrior fan doesn't hate it The #4 pick ends up being Deni. Warriors lineup ends up
Curry, Klay, Deni, Green, Hortford. Everyone can shoot three...everyone can defend (Curry a little).

[davesilver]

Warriors
Out: Wiggins, 2021 1st (not the Minny)
In: Tobias Harris, 2020 Sixers #36

New Orleans
Out: Jrue, JJ
In: Al, Richardson, Furkan, 2021 GSW 1st, 2020 Sixers 1st (via OKC)

Sixers
Out: Al, Jrich, Furkan, 2020 Sixers #36, 2020 Sixers #21
In: Jrue, JJ, Wiggins

Warriors
Steph
Klay
Tobias
Draymond
Wiseman

New Orleans
Lonzo
Richardson
Ingram
Zion
Al

Sixers
Jrue
JJ
Wiggins
Ben
Embiid

I actually think Wiggins still has potential to be a viable option next to Ben to Embiid. Bringing in JJ and Wigs would make Embiid happy. You could always have him come off the bench for Matisse. Jrue's shot creation and perimeter defense would bring this team to the next level.

Bumping this and am curious on thoughts.

[youngcrev]

Warriors
Out: Wiggins, 2021 1st (not the Minny)
In: Tobias Harris, 2020 Sixers #36

New Orleans
Out: Jrue, JJ
In: Al, Richardson, Furkan, 2021 GSW 1st, 2020 Sixers 1st (via OKC)

Sixers
Out: Al, Jrich, Furkan, 2020 Sixers #36
In: Jrue, JJ, Wiggins

Warriors
Steph
Klay
Tobias
Draymond
Wiseman

New Orleans
Lonzo
Richardson
Ingram
Zion
Al

Sixers
Jrue
JJ
Wiggins
Ben
Embiid

I actually think Wiggins still has potential to be a viable option next to Ben to Embiid. Bringing in JJ and Wigs would make Embiid happy. You could always have him come off the bench for Matisse. Jrue's shot creation and perimeter defense would bring this team to the next level.

Bumping this and am curious on thoughts.

I'd rather add whatever the difference between that GS pick and #36 is, but I don't think New Orleans goes for it anyway.

[ProcessDoctor]

I'd personally move Ben back to the point guard position and play Harris at power forward IF we can't find a deal for him. Let Shake and JRich guard backcourt players and Simmons check the small forwards on opposite teams. We can sign Tyler Johnson, and Bryan Forbes to reasonable contracts.

Or.. If possible. Portland fans seem to be open to trading CJ for Tobias Harris. That's honestly the deal I would do. CJ/Shake backcourt and find a trade for Richardson. Sign affordable athletic wings...There are some available Alfonso Mckinnie, Josh Jackson, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, Demarre Carroll all can be signed within our price range.

I would also look to deal Mike Scott who is expiring. Maybe send him and Richardson together?

Tobias (plus minor assets if needed) for CJ is exactly what we need. A big 3 of Ben/Joel/CJ is a perfect complementary fit, which we've never had before.

Then try to combine JRich and Horford to get a versatile forward, call him SF-X. 3&D type would be fine. Ability to make plays off the dribble is a nice bonus, but range shooting is a higher priority to space the floor. Get a cheap FA big to round it out.

PG CJ | #21
SG Thybulle | Shake
SF SF-X | Kork
PF Simmons
CE Embiid | Cheap FA

This team can make a run next year.

If Portland is open to a Harris-CJ swap, it needs to happen. I imagine they'd also ask for a Richardson-Ariza swap.

If you want a forward after, Houston would be a good option: Horford + Korkmaz + #36 + #58 for Gordon + Covington.


McCollum(34)/Gordon(14)
Thybulle(18)/Milton(20)/Gordon(10)
Covington(16)/Ariza(20)/Thybulle(12)
Simmons(34)/Covington(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


McCollum/Gordon/#49
Thybulle/Milton/Smith
Covington/Ariza/#21
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


I don't know if that's a championship-caliber team (especially because Gordon has been AWFUL), but I think it's one step closer. I'd grade it as a top-3 defense and top-15 offense? Who we pick in the draft could potentially give us a nice surge off the bench and improve the offense.

Edit: added Korkmaz to Houston

[Arsenal]

I'd personally move Ben back to the point guard position and play Harris at power forward IF we can't find a deal for him. Let Shake and JRich guard backcourt players and Simmons check the small forwards on opposite teams. We can sign Tyler Johnson, and Bryan Forbes to reasonable contracts.

Or.. If possible. Portland fans seem to be open to trading CJ for Tobias Harris. That's honestly the deal I would do. CJ/Shake backcourt and find a trade for Richardson. Sign affordable athletic wings...There are some available Alfonso Mckinnie, Josh Jackson, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, Demarre Carroll all can be signed within our price range.

I would also look to deal Mike Scott who is expiring. Maybe send him and Richardson together?

Tobias (plus minor assets if needed) for CJ is exactly what we need. A big 3 of Ben/Joel/CJ is a perfect complementary fit, which we've never had before.

Then try to combine JRich and Horford to get a versatile forward, call him SF-X. 3&D type would be fine. Ability to make plays off the dribble is a nice bonus, but range shooting is a higher priority to space the floor. Get a cheap FA big to round it out.

PG CJ | #21
SG Thybulle | Shake
SF SF-X | Kork
PF Simmons
CE Embiid | Cheap FA

This team can make a run next year.

If Portland is open to a Harris-CJ swap, it needs to happen. I wonder what else they'd want? I imagine they'd ask for a JRich-Ariza swap.

If you want a forward to complement them afterward, Houston would be a good option: Horford + #36 + #58 for Gordon + Covington.

McCollum(34)/Gordon(14)
Thybulle(18)/Milton(20)/Gordon(10)
Covington(16)/Ariza(20)/Thybulle(12)
Simmons(34)/Covington(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


McCollum/Gordon/#49
Thybulle/Milton/Smith
Covington/Ariza/#21
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


I don't know if that's a championship-caliber team (especially because Gordon has been AWFUL), but I think it's one step closer. I'd grade it as a top-3 defense and top-15 offense? Who we pick in the draft could potentially give us a nice surge off the bench and improve the offense.

Don't think we can get Gordon + Cov for Horford + 2nds. If we can obviously take it and run. I'd be willing to hand over all 4 2nds we have this year to do that deal.

Hesitant to include JRich for Ariza in a Tobi - CJ swap because I think its an overpay, and we'll also need JRich to help deal Horford.

But yea, this lineup is a contender and has a ton of shooting around Ben/Jo, plus a quasi star PPP in CJ which we've always needed. Massive upgrade over this year's clusterfck.

[ProcessDoctor]

Tobias (plus minor assets if needed) for CJ is exactly what we need. A big 3 of Ben/Joel/CJ is a perfect complementary fit, which we've never had before.

Then try to combine JRich and Horford to get a versatile forward, call him SF-X. 3&D type would be fine. Ability to make plays off the dribble is a nice bonus, but range shooting is a higher priority to space the floor. Get a cheap FA big to round it out.

PG CJ | #21
SG Thybulle | Shake
SF SF-X | Kork
PF Simmons
CE Embiid | Cheap FA

This team can make a run next year.

If Portland is open to a Harris-CJ swap, it needs to happen. I wonder what else they'd want? I imagine they'd ask for a JRich-Ariza swap.

If you want a forward to complement them afterward, Houston would be a good option: Horford + #36 + #58 for Gordon + Covington.

McCollum(34)/Gordon(14)
Thybulle(18)/Milton(20)/Gordon(10)
Covington(16)/Ariza(20)/Thybulle(12)
Simmons(34)/Covington(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


McCollum/Gordon/#49
Thybulle/Milton/Smith
Covington/Ariza/#21
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


I don't know if that's a championship-caliber team (especially because Gordon has been AWFUL), but I think it's one step closer. I'd grade it as a top-3 defense and top-15 offense? Who we pick in the draft could potentially give us a nice surge off the bench and improve the offense.

Don't think we can get Gordon + Cov for Horford + 2nds. If we can obviously take it and run. I'd be willing to hand over all 4 2nds we have this year to do that deal.

Hesitant to include JRich for Ariza in a Tobi - CJ swap because I think its an overpay, and we'll also need JRich to help deal Horford.

But yea, this lineup is a contender and has a ton of shooting around Ben/Jo, plus a quasi star PPP in CJ which we've always needed. Massive upgrade over this year's clusterfck.

I think we're on the same page RE preserving Richardson to offload Horford. That being said, I also think prying CJ away from Portland will require a slight overpay. They're obsessed with the Dame-CJ pairing. If all it takes is Richardson, who we likely won't retain, I think you have to pull the trigger.

Houston is tough to predict. If they lose to OKC, they might consider this ultra-small ball a failure. Gordon's contract isn't great, so I'd be hesitant to overpay there. Horford would look great in their system. They often get players on the cheap with 2nd rounders, so maybe a future 2nd (i.e. NYK's 2021 2nd) would be enticing to them. Not out of the realm of possibility IMO.

I think we'd need someone like Saddiq Bey or Nesmith at #21 to compensate for our lack of shot-creation in the starting lineup. CJ, Gordon, and Shake probably won't suffice deep into the playoffs.

[davesilver]

I'd personally move Ben back to the point guard position and play Harris at power forward IF we can't find a deal for him. Let Shake and JRich guard backcourt players and Simmons check the small forwards on opposite teams. We can sign Tyler Johnson, and Bryan Forbes to reasonable contracts.

Or.. If possible. Portland fans seem to be open to trading CJ for Tobias Harris. That's honestly the deal I would do. CJ/Shake backcourt and find a trade for Richardson. Sign affordable athletic wings...There are some available Alfonso Mckinnie, Josh Jackson, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, Demarre Carroll all can be signed within our price range.

I would also look to deal Mike Scott who is expiring. Maybe send him and Richardson together?

Tobias (plus minor assets if needed) for CJ is exactly what we need. A big 3 of Ben/Joel/CJ is a perfect complementary fit, which we've never had before.

Then try to combine JRich and Horford to get a versatile forward, call him SF-X. 3&D type would be fine. Ability to make plays off the dribble is a nice bonus, but range shooting is a higher priority to space the floor. Get a cheap FA big to round it out.

PG CJ | #21
SG Thybulle | Shake
SF SF-X | Kork
PF Simmons
CE Embiid | Cheap FA

This team can make a run next year.

If Portland is open to a Harris-CJ swap, it needs to happen. I imagine they'd also ask for a Richardson-Ariza swap.

If you want a forward after, Houston would be a good option: Horford + Korkmaz + #36 + #58 for Gordon + Covington.


McCollum(34)/Gordon(14)
Thybulle(18)/Milton(20)/Gordon(10)
Covington(16)/Ariza(20)/Thybulle(12)
Simmons(34)/Covington(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


McCollum/Gordon/#49
Thybulle/Milton/Smith
Covington/Ariza/#21
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


I don't know if that's a championship-caliber team (especially because Gordon has been AWFUL), but I think it's one step closer. I'd grade it as a top-3 defense and top-15 offense? Who we pick in the draft could potentially give us a nice surge off the bench and improve the offense.

Edit: added Korkmaz to Houston

If Houston gives up Cov I think they’d demand Matisse in return. If there’s a player I’d be willing to trade for tisse, it’s cov.

I think we may need to attach a first rounder to get the CJ swap done. Keep in mind that Harris has another 4 years in his contract.

I think we draft a true PG with #21.

[stormi]

Josh + Thybulle for Jrue
Embiid + Harris for Huerter/Hunter/Collins/Capela+#6
Al for Love

Jrue/Hayes
Huerter/Shake
Simmons/Hunter
Collins/Love
Capela

Give us our flowers. Best team itl for the next 5 years.

[youngcrev]

Josh + Thybulle for Jrue
Embiid + Harris for Huerter/Hunter/Collins/Capela+#6
Al for Love

Jrue/Hayes
Huerter/Shake
Simmons/Hunter
Collins/Love
Capela

Give us our flowers. Best team itl for the next 5 years.

Trading young talent for a 30 year old Holiday and following it up by trading your franchise player makes no damn sense at all.

I get that you're a build around Ben guy, but putting a lineup with 1 shooter and 3 roll men feels like an awful way to do it. Teams would pack the paint even moreso than they do right now against us.

[stormi]

Josh + Thybulle for Jrue
Embiid + Harris for Huerter/Hunter/Collins/Capela+#6
Al for Love

Jrue/Hayes
Huerter/Shake
Simmons/Hunter
Collins/Love
Capela

Give us our flowers. Best team itl for the next 5 years.

Trading young talent for a 30 year old Holiday and following it up by trading your franchise player makes no damn sense at all.

I get that you're a build around Ben guy, but putting a lineup with 1 shooter and 3 roll men feels like an awful way to do it. Teams would pack the paint even moreso than they do right now against us.

Just like the Raps trading young talent for retirement home ridden vets like Gasol didn't make sense either i'm sure. We need more versatility, we need more defending, we need more skill in general. Thybulle is a pretty limited in my opinion. He was an old rookie that never showed offensive upside at Washington and at best becomes a more springy Danny Green. All five of those starting 5 names give us versatile switchable defenders with length. Playmaking and untapped youth with upside and difficult shot makers.

John Collins shot 48/40/80 on over 3.5 attempts per game btw as a 22 year old PF. He's dynamite

Capela and Shake are the only one dimensional players on that roster

[VDT]

That team is going nowhere. There is no one to score in the postseason when the opponents scout you and try to take away your strengths.

Why would you even trade for Love? He is useless.

[stormi]

That team is going nowhere. There is no one to score in the postseason when the opponents scout you and try to take away your strengths.

Why would you even trade for Love? He is useless.

Right because dumping it to Joel Embiid in the post has worked... ever in the past 1,2 3 season now? Usually ends in him ft flop baiting or just getting ripped.

OKC seems to have no problems icing games with Paul, Schroder and SGA. Jrue is one piece of that puzzle, Killian Hayes could be our SGA. Huerter and Hunter are potential deadeye shooters, Collins is one of the most versatile young stretch bigs in the game. That team is younger, healthier, deeper and much more versatile than this current squad lol.

Also, Love is a better shooter, rebounder and player in general at everything but banging down low defending other 5's than Average Al.

[phillynative]

Josh + Thybulle for Jrue
Embiid + Harris for Huerter/Hunter/Collins/Capela+#6
Al for Love

Jrue/Hayes
Huerter/Shake
Simmons/Hunter
Collins/Love
Capela

Give us our flowers. Best team itl for the next 5 years.

Starting 5 only has 1 reliable 3 pt shooter. How does that team compete