WCQF: Oklahoma City Thunder vs Houston Rockets | P1

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Thunder in 4
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Thunder in 5
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6%
Thunder in 6
5
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Thunder in 7
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Re: WCQF: Oklahoma City Thunder vs Houston Rockets | P1 

Post#321 » by NaturalThunder » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:35 pm

1bigfan13 wrote:Houston's ORTG with Adams on the court 117. With Adams off the court that number drops to 108.

Some of it isn't all because Adams lacks ability. His overall effort and desire has been comically bad this series. There have been so many times he's stood on or just outside of the block while a Rockets player drives to the basket and shoots an uncontested layup. He might half-assedly throw up an arm to make it look like he's contesting, but it's all for show. He's also continually watching Jeff Green, Tucker, or whoever he's guarding catch the ball behind the perimeter and making less than zero effort to closeout and contest.

I can honestly say I've been a proud member of the Steven Adams fanclub since day one. Unfortunately, his game has not evolved to keep up with the ever-evolving NBA. He's not a starting caliber center anymore. He can't shoot, he doesn't protect the rim, and he's a poor help defender. He's a big you bring off the bench for 15-20 minutes per game in certain matchups, and in other matchups you just don't play him hardly at all.
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Re: WCQF: Oklahoma City Thunder vs Houston Rockets | P1 

Post#322 » by getrichordie » Tue Sep 1, 2020 12:02 am

Team shooting stats — https://stats.nba.com/teams/shooting/?sort=25-29%20ft.%20FGA&dir=1

Team traditional stats — https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?sort=FTA&dir=-1

Players defense dashboard — https://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-overall/?sort=PCT_PLUSMINUS&dir=1&CF=GP*GE*3&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Playoffs

Players opponent shooting — https://stats.nba.com/players/opponent-shooting/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Playoffs&DistanceRange=8ft%20Range&sort=Less%20Than%208%20ft.%20FG%20PCT&dir=-1&TeamID=1610612760

Of note:

— HOU is shooting 32.9% from 25-29 ft. on an average of 30.4 attempts per game

— HOU is shooting 42.3% from 20-24 ft. on average of 20.8 attempts per game

— HOU is shooting 58% from <5 ft. on an average of 30 attempts per game

— HOU is averaging 16.8 FTAs per game; OKC is averaging 25.8 FTAs per game

— OKC is shooting 30.1% from 3 ; HOU is shooting 36.4% from 3

 — Danilo Gallinari has 7th worst defensive difference (+17.6%) in the playoffs out of all players who have played at least 3 games. Bazley is much better, sitting at just +2.2%

— Luguentz Dort's defensive difference is really good @ -10.1% (Ferguson just a bit better at -11.5% on just 4 defended FGAs per game)

— Schroder is sitting at -3.7% followed by Gilgeous-Alexander at -3.3%

— Noel is sitting at -2.2% ; Adams is sitting at +3.5%

— Noel is defending considerably better <8ft. than Steven Adams.
—— Noel: allowing 42.9%
—— Adams: allowing 63.4%
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Post#323 » by NaturalThunder » Tue Sep 1, 2020 1:56 am

In relation to most games this series, that felt like a good 1st quarter for us and we're still down by one. For the 6th straight game, we are trailing after one.
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Post#324 » by NaturalThunder » Tue Sep 1, 2020 2:26 am

As well as we played that half, and after leading most of the 2nd quarter, we're still trailing at the half. We're toast. Houston is the superior team and there's not much argument to be made otherwise.
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Post#325 » by 1bigfan13 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 3:52 am

Hell of a performance by CP3.

Also, Westbrook did exactly what I thought he'd do and that was play reckless and make stupid decisions that hurt his team during crunch time.
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Post#326 » by 1bigfan13 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 3:59 am

I'm not sure why Dort felt the need to even challenge that last shot attempt by Harden. Harden is extremely adept at drawing fouls from behind the arc. Why put yourself in a situation to bail them out with a 4 point play. Rookie mistake that I'm glad they got away with.
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Post#327 » by Thabo Sefolosha » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:10 am

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Post#328 » by getrichordie » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:29 am

We didn't even play a minute of small ball and we won.

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Post#329 » by getrichordie » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:45 am

Has anyone checked to see if bondom34 is doing okay? Just wondering.

Anyways...

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander through 6 games:

39.7 MP
15.8 PTS on 41.8 FG%
35.5% from 3 on 5.2 3PA
94.7% from FT line on 3.2 FTA
5.7 REB
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0.8 STL
0.5 BLK
2.5 fouls
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Post#330 » by mr570 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:48 am

Shai has been bad yes. Particularly defensively.
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Post#331 » by getrichordie » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:48 am

Dennis Schroder and Nerlens Noel are the only guys to have a positive +/- through 6 games vs. HOU
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Post#332 » by getrichordie » Tue Sep 1, 2020 4:48 am

mr570 wrote:Shai has been bad yes. Particularly defensively.


Yup. Shai trying to protect rim vs. EG = flying rock vs. paper
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Post#333 » by mcscotty » Tue Sep 1, 2020 5:12 am

CP3 is clutch in crunch time.
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Post#334 » by QPR » Tue Sep 1, 2020 5:40 am

getrichordie wrote:
mr570 wrote:Shai has been bad yes. Particularly defensively.


Yup. Shai trying to protect rim vs. EG = flying rock vs. paper


Gordon has been worse than SGA this series tbh.
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Post#335 » by bondom34 » Tue Sep 1, 2020 6:35 am

getrichordie wrote:Has anyone checked to see if bondom34 is doing okay? Just wondering.

Anyways...

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander through 6 games:

39.7 MP
15.8 PTS on 41.8 FG%
35.5% from 3 on 5.2 3PA
94.7% from FT line on 3.2 FTA
5.7 REB
4.2 AST to 2.0 TOV
0.8 STL
0.5 BLK
2.5 fouls
-2.7 +/-

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Post#336 » by getrichordie » Tue Sep 1, 2020 9:42 am

I baited you? Wow. :lol: Did I say something that triggered you? I literally just asked about you because I haven't seen you active.

The irony is killing me... just a couple of weeks ago or whatever, you are apologizing to me for how you acted in the forums and now you are accusing me of baiting people/calling the forum "insufferable" which is an interesting choice of words, especially coming from you...
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Re: WCQF: Oklahoma City Thunder vs Houston Rockets | P1 

Post#337 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Sep 1, 2020 10:37 am

getrichordie wrote:I baited you? Wow. :lol: Did I say something that triggered you? I literally just asked about you because I haven't seen you active.

The irony is killing me... just a couple of weeks ago or whatever, you are apologizing to me for how you acted in the forums and now you are accusing me of baiting people/calling the forum "insufferable" which is an interesting choice of words, especially coming from you...

Just a few posts ago you mocked people that don’t support Donovan by saying “FiRe DoNoVaN” and followed that up by asking of the whereabouts of a specific poster which you recently had a heated discussion about the topic. So yeah, it kind of seems like baiting even if that wasn’t your intent.

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Post#338 » by slick_watts » Tue Sep 1, 2020 10:50 am

it's pretty clear that when these games are close at the end, houston's players are just toast and the pace slows and it favors us and, specifically, cp3. the three games we lost, they were more or less over by 4Q. the series is tied despite the rockets being +7.0pp100 overall. bizarre.

i thought during the season that the only way not tanking made sense, and making the playoffs made sense, is if we could beat the clippers or rockets in a series. just for the takes and sheer chaos that would ensue. we're one game away from making that happen. 2020 needs this.
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Post#339 » by getrichordie » Tue Sep 1, 2020 11:04 am

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getrichordie wrote:I baited you? Wow. :lol: Did I say something that triggered you? I literally just asked about you because I haven't seen you active.

The irony is killing me... just a couple of weeks ago or whatever, you are apologizing to me for how you acted in the forums and now you are accusing me of baiting people/calling the forum "insufferable" which is an interesting choice of words, especially coming from you...

Just a few posts ago you mocked people that don’t support Donovan by saying “FiRe DoNoVaN” and followed that up by asking of the whereabouts of a specific poster which you recently had a heated discussion about the topic. So yeah, it kind of seems like baiting even if that wasn’t your intent.

Let’s please all chill on personal critiques of others and enjoy what’s left of this season.


Two separate posts... it would look like bait if it was in same post. Can we not get our panties in a wad because I asked where a long-time, and formerly highly active member is and how they were doing?
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Re: WCQF: Oklahoma City Thunder vs Houston Rockets | P1 

Post#340 » by Galloisdaman » Tue Sep 1, 2020 11:24 am

If I was Billy I would point out 2 stats to Dort.

1. 69% of his shots are from 3 point range.
2. He is only shooting 18% from 3 point range

Houston is happy to live with those 2 stats.
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