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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#181 » by Optms » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:36 pm

TheDiesel36 wrote:Just keep in mind that only team that has defeated this Rockets team were the mighty Warriors and even they struggled.


False.

The Warriors were playing down to their competition. Need further proof? Look no where else than the moment KD went down in game 5 before the 4th. The light switch went on and Curry destroyed them both during that 4th quarter and to close out the series. It was laughable that people even thought the Rockets would win and dominate after the injury.

Either way, they barely even came out of the OKC series. You think Lebron is losing a close out game 7 against that lineup? Better chance of me hooking up with Kate Upton.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#182 » by trueballer7 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:40 pm

Rockets in 4.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#183 » by gmoney411 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:42 pm

Optms wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:Just keep in mind that only team that has defeated this Rockets team were the mighty Warriors and even they struggled.


False.

The Warriors were playing down to their competition. Need further proof? Look no where else than the moment KD went down in game 5 before the 4th. The light switch went on and Curry destroyed them both during that 4th quarter and to close out the series. It was laughable that people even thought the Rockets would win and dominate after the injury.

Either way, they barely even came out of the OKC series. You think Lebron is losing a close out game 7 against that lineup? Better chance of me hooking up with Kate Upton.


They barely came out but a lot of that was due to self inflicting wounds. If they could inbound the ball they are up 3-0 and the series ends in 4 or 5. Game 5 is probably the only game where OKC looked like the better team. If Gordon can hit shots this series should be interesting.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#184 » by VanWest82 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:58 pm

Westbrook had covid and a calf strain but he's a freak of nature and so it perhaps isn't surprising he bounced back so well. Harden also had covid and looks spent at the end of these games. Does he have enough left in the tank?
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#185 » by TheDiesel36 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:29 pm

gmoney411 wrote:
Optms wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:Just keep in mind that only team that has defeated this Rockets team were the mighty Warriors and even they struggled.


False.

The Warriors were playing down to their competition. Need further proof? Look no where else than the moment KD went down in game 5 before the 4th. The light switch went on and Curry destroyed them both during that 4th quarter and to close out the series. It was laughable that people even thought the Rockets would win and dominate after the injury.

Either way, they barely even came out of the OKC series. You think Lebron is losing a close out game 7 against that lineup? Better chance of me hooking up with Kate Upton.


They barely came out but a lot of that was due to self inflicting wounds. If they could inbound the ball they are up 3-0 and the series ends in 4 or 5. Game 5 is probably the only game where OKC looked like the better team. If Gordon can hit shots this series should be interesting.

5 qts are hardly a proof of anything, they went toe to toe with the Warriors twice and had legitimate shot at winning the series, no other team, not even 17 Cavs have done that. I wouldnt underestimate Houston.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#186 » by Shock Defeat » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:55 pm

Optms wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:Just keep in mind that only team that has defeated this Rockets team were the mighty Warriors and even they struggled.


False.

The Warriors were playing down to their competition. Need further proof? Look no where else than the moment KD went down in game 5 before the 4th. The light switch went on and Curry destroyed them both during that 4th quarter and to close out the series. It was laughable that people even thought the Rockets would win and dominate after the injury.

Either way, they barely even came out of the OKC series. You think Lebron is losing a close out game 7 against that lineup? Better chance of me hooking up with Kate Upton.

Actually the Rockets are more likely to be the team that let off once KD went down. Rockets played down to the competition.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#187 » by TheDiesel36 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:03 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:
Optms wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:Just keep in mind that only team that has defeated this Rockets team were the mighty Warriors and even they struggled.


False.

The Warriors were playing down to their competition. Need further proof? Look no where else than the moment KD went down in game 5 before the 4th. The light switch went on and Curry destroyed them both during that 4th quarter and to close out the series. It was laughable that people even thought the Rockets would win and dominate after the injury.

Either way, they barely even came out of the OKC series. You think Lebron is losing a close out game 7 against that lineup? Better chance of me hooking up with Kate Upton.

Actually the Rockets are more likely to be the team that let off once KD went down. Rockets played down to the competition.

18 and 19 Rockets are getting severely underrated. Warriors stomped past everybody, Im sure Cavs fans will say something about them playing down to the competition lol.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#188 » by K_chile22 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:40 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Nacho Bidness wrote:When the Lakers can get their mismatches sure they'll score rather easily but the Rockets will oddly win by defense. The way they switch everything and disrupt passing lanes and are just overall very pesky, the Lakers will become discombobulated. The rebounding advantage is negated by turnovers. That's what nobody is seeing.


Both the Lakers and the Rockets turn the ball over around 15 times a game.

And both the Lakers and the Rockets opponents turn the ball over about 16 times a game against them.

There is a statistical insignificance when it comes to turnovers between the two teams.

This seems to be a hope and prayer scenario you are throwing out here.
That's totally ignoring pace. Rockets have the 9th lowest Tov rate, 4th highest opponent tov rate, Lakers have the 23rd lowest Tov rate and 3rd highest opponent tov rate. And I'd bet both those numbers are better for Houston since the Covington trade
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#189 » by red96 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:00 am

Optms wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:Just keep in mind that only team that has defeated this Rockets team were the mighty Warriors and even they struggled.


False.

The Warriors were playing down to their competition. Need further proof? Look no where else than the moment KD went down in game 5 before the 4th. The light switch went on and Curry destroyed them both during that 4th quarter and to close out the series. It was laughable that people even thought the Rockets would win and dominate after the injury.

Either way, they barely even came out of the OKC series. You think Lebron is losing a close out game 7 against that lineup? Better chance of me hooking up with Kate Upton.
So they played down to the competition against. Houston, but then proceeded to sweep the Cavs? So how does that work? Are you saying the Cavs were way better than Houston despite being drastically worse literally through the entire season and through the playoffs? The Cavs were a better team than the Rockets, that's why the Warriors decided to sweep them?
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#190 » by Jkam31 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:00 am

red96 wrote::roll:
jg77 wrote:Dort put 30 on the Rockets defense last night...so I don't even want to imagine what LeBron and AD are about to do.
Did you even watch the game?


Do you even need to watch the game to know how Dort got to 30
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#191 » by Nacho Bidness » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:03 am

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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#192 » by Jkam31 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:04 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:I’m here for Rockets fans trying to talk themselves into all these weird advantages they claim to have that don’t really exist.


Thinking Howard/McGee will somehow dominate is the worst take I’m seeing, pure comedy
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#193 » by harrybobarry » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:05 am

Lmao Lakers were terrible in the bubble and even after losing game one in the first round had them questioning themselves. Dame goes out with injury and Lakers beat an under .500 club with the worst defense in the league and feeling themselves again. They are about to get clapped like nobody’s business.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#194 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:07 am

K_chile22 wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Nacho Bidness wrote:When the Lakers can get their mismatches sure they'll score rather easily but the Rockets will oddly win by defense. The way they switch everything and disrupt passing lanes and are just overall very pesky, the Lakers will become discombobulated. The rebounding advantage is negated by turnovers. That's what nobody is seeing.


Both the Lakers and the Rockets turn the ball over around 15 times a game.

And both the Lakers and the Rockets opponents turn the ball over about 16 times a game against them.

There is a statistical insignificance when it comes to turnovers between the two teams.

This seems to be a hope and prayer scenario you are throwing out here.
That's totally ignoring pace. Rockets have the 9th lowest Tov rate, 4th highest opponent tov rate, Lakers have the 23rd lowest Tov rate and 3rd highest opponent tov rate. And I'd bet both those numbers are better for Houston since the Covington trade


That sounds completely made up considering the Lakers are 11th in pace and only 2.8 possessions per game (per 48) less than Houston on the season.

Such a drastic difference would make sense if we were talking about a team near the bottom in PACE at like 95 possessions per 48 versus a team at the top averaging 109 per 48. But that’s not what we have. It’s 107.4 vs 104.6 per 48.

So you go to turnovers per 100 stats at basketball reference, the Rockets turn it over 14.1 times per 100, the Lakers 15.0.

Lakers opponents turn it over 15.5 against them per 100 and the Rockets are at 15.1 per 100.

So that whopping .5 net turnover per 100 possessions is going to be a huge factor huh? As I said it’s statistically insignificant, and even when Pace is taken into account.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#195 » by red96 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:07 am

Jkam31 wrote:
red96 wrote::roll:
jg77 wrote:Dort put 30 on the Rockets defense last night...so I don't even want to imagine what LeBron and AD are about to do.
Did you even watch the game?


Do you even need to watch the game to know how Dort got to 30

Hey, that guy is the one comparing Dort to LeBron. If I need to explain the difference in defensive preparation and schemes between the two, it's a waste of energy to begin with.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#196 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:51 am

Here is more stats that Rocket fans may not like...since I keep hearing 3 is worth more than 2.

The Rockets shot 34.9% from 3 this year. The Lakers defense gives up a 3 point % of also 34.9%. 34.9% is equivalent to just under 52.5% on 2 point shots.

The Lakers shoot 56% on 2 point shots. The Rockets give up 54.1% on 2 point shots.

That’s some bad math for the Rockets.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#197 » by Nacho Bidness » Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:54 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Here is more stats that Rocket fans may not like...since I keep hearing 3 is worth more than 2.

The Rockets shot 34.9% from 3 this year. The Lakers defense gives up a 3 point % of also 34.9%. 34.9% is equivalent to just under 52.5% on 2 point shots.

The Lakers shoot 56% on 2 point shots. The Rockets give up 54.1% on 2 point shots.

That’s some bad math for the Rockets.

The Lakers are not going to defend the 3pt line that well when they have to worry about all 5 guys shooting them. It's not remotely the same to the usual two maybe three guys on the court at one time.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#198 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 1:00 am

Nacho Bidness wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Here is more stats that Rocket fans may not like...since I keep hearing 3 is worth more than 2.

The Rockets shot 34.9% from 3 this year. The Lakers defense gives up a 3 point % of also 34.9%. 34.9% is equivalent to just under 52.5% on 2 point shots.

The Lakers shoot 56% on 2 point shots. The Rockets give up 54.1% on 2 point shots.

That’s some bad math for the Rockets.

The Lakers are not going to defend the 3pt line that well when they have to worry about all 5 guys shooting them. It's not remotely the same to the usual two maybe three guys on the court at one time.


This is just another emotional claim you are making without any basis in fact. The Rockets play that way every game and still only shot 34.9% from 3 on the season. The Rockets take a lot of 3s but they aren’t a good shooting team and haven’t been all season long.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#199 » by yoyoboy » Fri Sep 4, 2020 1:01 am

I can't wait until all these posters saying LA is gonna get stomped say in 2 weeks that in fact the Rockets were bad all along and it's embarrassing LA didn't sweep them by 20+ ppg.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (5) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#200 » by Nacho Bidness » Fri Sep 4, 2020 1:08 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Nacho Bidness wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Here is more stats that Rocket fans may not like...since I keep hearing 3 is worth more than 2.

The Rockets shot 34.9% from 3 this year. The Lakers defense gives up a 3 point % of also 34.9%. 34.9% is equivalent to just under 52.5% on 2 point shots.

The Lakers shoot 56% on 2 point shots. The Rockets give up 54.1% on 2 point shots.

That’s some bad math for the Rockets.

The Lakers are not going to defend the 3pt line that well when they have to worry about all 5 guys shooting them. It's not remotely the same to the usual two maybe three guys on the court at one time.


This is just another emotional claim you are making without any basis in fact. The Rockets play that way every game and still only shot 34.9% from 3 on the season. The Rockets take a lot of 3s but they aren’t a good shooting team and haven’t been all season long.

I'm just pointing out that it won't be because somebody is draped all over them with good defense. We also shoot two pointers at a 55.7% clip because we live getting layups and dunks.

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