ECF: (3) Boston Celtics vs Miami HEAT (5) - Part 2 (2-0 Miami)

[Mikistan]

Can we not talk about the Refs, had enough of that from Raptors fans trying to excuse their crap play.

Heat won, they played better when it counted most. C’s gave up two good leads, something we’ve being doing a lot of.

Do you have any posts where you don't complain about raptors fans


What a joke, Celtic get favoured so much when they don't get calls the entire fanbase breaks down emotionally


Watching Tatum sit under the basket after that amazing block, not trying to stand back up, just thinking about his life

[Son Goku 25]

This probably goes to 6 or 7

[Mujakki]

Ya. And so isn't crowder. I would know. I had to watch his terrible shot selection in Boston for years.

Miami Crowder ain't Boston Crowder my man. Get used to seeing 3-5 threes from him a game in this series.

You think he didnt jack 5 to 7 a game here?

He can take those all game. Live with the results.

If that's your strategy then good luck in the offseason.

Since the trade to Miami he set an NBA record for highest 3pt % bump going from one team to another. Shot 44.5% from 3 the 20 games in the regular season and is 42% in 10 games in the playoffs. 30 games isn't a hot streak. Your coach might want to consider guarding him.

[Mujakki]

Marcus smart with another gimmick play at the end. You can tel that play they practice it a lot. Run by smart, he slide and then flop. Look for theis to flop in game 2 to get bam in foul trouble because that's 40% of the so call Boston elite defense

Our defense >>>>>> yours. By basically most metrics. Your defense ain't that good, you got a bunch of guys that are easy to exploit, which is admitted by you coach and that zone. You would play man defense, if you could defend us.

Actually Kemba slightly pushed Jones into Smart, Jones extended his hands forward, which he shouldn't have done and that led to the foul.

I dare you to find metrics showing that your defense is much better than ours post Crowder/Iggy trade.

[FlatearthZorro]

Marcus smart with another gimmick play at the end. You can tel that play they practice it a lot. Run by smart, he slide and then flop. Look for theis to flop in game 2 to get bam in foul trouble because that's 40% of the so call Boston elite defense

Our defense >>>>>> yours. By basically most metrics. Your defense ain't that good, you got a bunch of guys that are easy to exploit, which is admitted by you coach and that zone. You would play man defense, if you could defend us.

Actually Kemba slightly pushed Jones into Smart, Jones extended his hands forward, which he shouldn't have done and that led to the foul.

I dare you to find metrics showing that your defense is much better than ours post Crowder/Iggy trade.

I'll start with the playoffs, we're the #1 ranked defense. There.

And stop with the Crowder bull, lad. He's played for us multiple years, he's a decent defender, metrics show him as slightly above average. That's about it. He's a role player. I'll be shocked if he scores over 20 pts in either of the next 2 games. As a matter of fact I'll be shocked if he scores over 16 in the next 2.

[Mujakki]

Our defense >>>>>> yours. By basically most metrics. Your defense ain't that good, you got a bunch of guys that are easy to exploit, which is admitted by you coach and that zone. You would play man defense, if you could defend us.

Actually Kemba slightly pushed Jones into Smart, Jones extended his hands forward, which he shouldn't have done and that led to the foul.

I dare you to find metrics showing that your defense is much better than ours post Crowder/Iggy trade.

I'll start with the playoffs, we're the #1 ranked defense. There.

And stop with the Crowder bull, lad. He's played for us multiple years, he's a decent defender, metrics show him as slightly above average. That's about it. He's a role player. I'll be shocked if he scores over 20 pts in either of the next 2 games. As a matter of fact I'll be shocked if he scores over 16 in the next 2.

What a statistician you are with that glorious sample size you've got there. I've got an inkling that your defensive ranking might drop given that you just got blitzed by Miami, especially from 3.

But congratulations having the #1 defense while playing against offensively challenged Philly and Toronto. I'm going to wager that Miami playing against the top offense in the NBA for 5 games might have dropped them a little bit.

As for the Crowder bit, did you just describe Marcus Smart?

[FlatearthZorro]

I dare you to find metrics showing that your defense is much better than ours post Crowder/Iggy trade.

I'll start with the playoffs, we're the #1 ranked defense. There.

And stop with the Crowder bull, lad. He's played for us multiple years, he's a decent defender, metrics show him as slightly above average. That's about it. He's a role player. I'll be shocked if he scores over 20 pts in either of the next 2 games. As a matter of fact I'll be shocked if he scores over 16 in the next 2.

What a statistician you are with that glorious sample size you've got there. I've got an inkling that your defensive ranking might drop given that you just got blitzed by Miami, especially from 3.

But congratulations having the #1 defense while playing against offensively challenged Philly and Toronto. I'm going to wager that Miami playing against the top offense in the NBA for 5 games might have dropped them a little bit.

As for the Crowder bit, did you just describe Marcus Smart?

Are you gonna bait me or actually have a discussion? At this point there's no reason to discuss Smart, he's way better than Jae and younger. We got blitzed? We lost by 3 points after blowing a 12 point lead. That's a serious blitz right there.

[Mujakki]

I'll start with the playoffs, we're the #1 ranked defense. There.

And stop with the Crowder bull, lad. He's played for us multiple years, he's a decent defender, metrics show him as slightly above average. That's about it. He's a role player. I'll be shocked if he scores over 20 pts in either of the next 2 games. As a matter of fact I'll be shocked if he scores over 16 in the next 2.

What a statistician you are with that glorious sample size you've got there. I've got an inkling that your defensive ranking might drop given that you just got blitzed by Miami, especially from 3.

But congratulations having the #1 defense while playing against offensively challenged Philly and Toronto. I'm going to wager that Miami playing against the top offense in the NBA for 5 games might have dropped them a little bit.

As for the Crowder bit, did you just describe Marcus Smart?

Are you gonna bait me or actually have a discussion? At this point there's no reason to discuss Smart, he's way better than Jae and younger. We got blitzed? We lost by 3 points after blowing a 12 point lead. That's a serious blitz right there.

106 in regulation, eventually 117, 47% shooting, 44% from 3. Again, show me that you're still the #1 defense in the playoffs after that.

[Durant Durant]

gentleman's sweep for the Heat

[UcanUwill]

Heat game one stats mirrors current era better that ever :
leader in points - Euro guard
leader in rebounds - rookie guard
leader in assists - starting center

[MHeat0279]

Still hilarious that (some) Heat fans are crying about the refs when they were in the bonus for half of the 4th and shot 12 FTs in the quarter

they were in the bonus because your team fouls a lot, i can not believe your center was complaining in his sixth foul, he clearly slapped the heat player's arm, i guess your team is as blind as your fans.
That last foul called on the Heat to tie the game up, was a disgrace, that game should have been over in regulation. Kemba pushed DJJ towards Smarts the flopper. It should have been a foul on Kemba and a technical foul on the flopper for his antics.

[MHeat0279]

Still hilarious that (some) Heat fans are crying about the refs when they were in the bonus for half of the 4th and shot 12 FTs in the quarter

Being in the bonus for half of the 4th is an automatic ref job in your opinion? Jesus. Tell me which of the fouls that got us there are wrong?

How can you not complain on that Smart flop. It got you to the OT and almost cost us the game.

It wasn’t a flop. Jones runs right through him. Literally. If you want to complain about Walker giving him a little shove then you’d actually have an argument, but not when Jones runs right over him at full speed

what would be the reasoning of DJJ to just run into Smar? Kemba pushed him in the back towards Smarts, that is a foul. Ok lets say Smarts did not flop ( for a change) he truly felt the impact of DJJ, but the impact was the consequence of an action, and that action was a Kemba push on his back.

[ITYSL]

Still hilarious that (some) Heat fans are crying about the refs when they were in the bonus for half of the 4th and shot 12 FTs in the quarter

they were in the bonus because your team fouls a lot, i can not believe your center was complaining in his sixth foul, he clearly slapped the heat player's arm, i guess your team is as blind as your fans.
That last foul called on the Heat to tie the game up, was a disgrace, that game should have been over in regulation. Kemba pushed DJJ towards Smarts the flopper. It should have been a foul on Kemba and a technical foul on the flopper for his antics.

LOL, your post is a disgrace. What about Crowder flopping for 3 FTAs earlier in the quarter? If Smart did that you and half the GB would blow their top. Stop crying about the refs dude, your team got the win. The officiating was fine.

[ITYSL]

gentleman's sweep for the Heat

If Hayward doesn't come back, it very well could be. The Heat defense is absolutely suffocating when they step up the intensity.

[Mikistan]

Still hilarious that (some) Heat fans are crying about the refs when they were in the bonus for half of the 4th and shot 12 FTs in the quarter

they were in the bonus because your team fouls a lot, i can not believe your center was complaining in his sixth foul, he clearly slapped the heat player's arm, i guess your team is as blind as your fans.
That last foul called on the Heat to tie the game up, was a disgrace, that game should have been over in regulation. Kemba pushed DJJ towards Smarts the flopper. It should have been a foul on Kemba and a technical foul on the flopper for his antics.

LOL, your post is a disgrace. What about Crowder flopping for 3 FTAs earlier in the quarter? If Smart did that you and half the GB would blow their top. Stop crying about the refs dude, your team got the win.

I've seen more celtics fans mention refs than anyone else.
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[HeatIn5]

Can’t help but feel like we stole a game that we shouldn’t have won. Makes me feel great moving forward and our adjustments will continue to carry us.

Team showed so much heart and toughness tonight. Interested to see how Boston comes out the gates tomorrow

[celtics543]

This thread is a little toxic. It's two evenly matched teams and it's going to be a great series to get to the Finals. Celtics threw a punch, Heat answered. Heat threw a punch, Celtics answered. Can't get closer than a game saving block in OT followed by a desperation 3 off the rim that would have tied it.

I'm excited for what should be a long series. Not sure why we're complaining about refs already.

[ITYSL]

I've seen more celtics fans mention refs than anyone else.
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Really? Not sure what you're seeing - from the first 4 pages of this thread:

**** marcus fart and his flops. Had to win twice.

The heat survived the refs

Marcus smart with another gimmick play at the end. You can tel that play they practice it a lot. Run by smart, he slide and then flop. Look for theis to flop in game 2 to get bam in foul trouble because that's 40% of the so call Boston elite defense

How can you not complain on that Smart flop. It got you to the OT and almost cost us the game.

It wasn't so much that it was a flop, but a foul on Boston when J Jones jr was pushed into Smart. Heat should have won in regulation.

It would be so fake if Boston won after Smart’s flop at the end of regulation. How they could not have seen it. Shameful. He better watch next few games - I wish he gets suspended.

That last foul called on the Heat to tie the game up, was a disgrace, that game should have been over in regulation. Kemba pushed DJJ towards Smarts the flopper. It should have been a foul on Kemba and a technical foul on the flopper for his antics.

[HeatIn5]

Marcus smart with another gimmick play at the end. You can tel that play they practice it a lot. Run by smart, he slide and then flop. Look for theis to flop in game 2 to get bam in foul trouble because that's 40% of the so call Boston elite defense

Our defense >>>>>> yours. By basically most metrics. Your defense ain't that good, you got a bunch of guys that are easy to exploit, which is admitted by you coach and that zone. You would play man defense, if you could defend us.

Actually Kemba slightly pushed Jones into Smart, Jones extended his hands forward, which he shouldn't have done and that led to the foul.

Not arguing about who is better, only arguing your point about Zone meaning we can’t play man.

Clearly you’ve never played in a competitive basketball game. Based on assignments, matchups, shifts, etc... it is harder to play zone. It’s not about a lack of athleticism or exploits (which is wrong because our best run in zone comes with athletic DJJ at the top) - but it’s about the overall basketball IQ. Teams with a low IQ cannot physically play zone. It’s much easier to focus on a singular opponent or switch, it’s much harder to cover an area with multiple principles and rules based on situation. You have to cover every single player for different stretches.


If we played Zone because we couldn’t defend, we still wouldn’t be able to defend and you’d score 150 on the zone. This is not your basic sit down 2-3 defense that you’re taught in middle school.

This is very similar to a Syracuse style(adjusted for defensive 3 seconds and occasional wing traps) where the wings are up high.

Last question, when’s the last time a “gimmick” made it this far in the playoffs? If it’s a gimmick, why can’t the Celtics crack it and why is Brad Stevens on the court screaming time out in frustration after 2 possessions of your young kids standing around and holding the ball in confusion.

[ITYSL]

Can’t help but feel like we stole a game that we shouldn’t have won. Makes me feel great moving forward and our adjustments will continue to carry us.

Team showed so much heart and toughness tonight. Interested to see how Boston comes out the gates tomorrow

Dude, I feel the same way. Celtics looked like they had the game in hand, and then the Heat started hitting shots. Herro nailing some clutch shots, they just grinded back. Really impressive win by you guys. I wasn't that upset right after the game, but this morning I was thinking how the Celtics let one get away. Hopefully they respond and come out on fire in Game 2.