Miami is in the driver's seat to become a dynasty next summer. Can add 2 max deals to Buter/Herro/Bam!

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Post#41 » by dc » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:47 am

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Alfred wrote:They should go after Kawhi instead of Giannis. The spacing with Bam, Butler and Antetokounmpo would be awful. Kawhi on the other hand would compliment their core perfectly.


Kawhi would be a great fit. He doesn't need to lead. Butler is the leader. He just follows and plays.

Though Kawhi's knee would worry me.


Heat would need to move to Anaheim for Kawhi to be interested. Seriously.
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Post#42 » by OkcSinceSGA » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:49 am

They are in incredible shape.
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Post#43 » by dc » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:42 am

Also with the Heat's recent history, you don't know yet what gem they might unearth in the next couple years. You can't simply take into account who they have right now.

They certainly have the track record to make you think they'll find another couple guys who can play who right now you've never heard of or you don't think much of as a prospect.
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Post#44 » by Pennebaker » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:19 am

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Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.


In 2021 if they got even one of Giannis, Kawhi or PG, they would be the favorites


Like the Clippers were the favorites this year?

I don't think there is any combination of players that are going to be able to beat LeBron and Davis for the foreseeable future. You may not realize it, but with Bron and Brow we might be looking at the greatest duo in history. It's not fair that they're on the same team.
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Post#45 » by Metallikid » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:20 am

bstein14 wrote:Pat Riley has set the heat up to become the next elite team in the NBA. Already a finals caliber team this year, next summer they will have an almost empty roster and they'll be able to add to the Butler/Herro/Bam trio.

Herro will be on $4 million on his rookie deal.
Bam will be an RFA but his cap hold will be only $12 million, so they can sign two max deals and then resign him after.
Butler is making $36 million.

Insane to think they could add Giannis /Oladipo to that trio. Or Giannis and just about any other of a ton of good FAs.

Even if they just land one max guy and resign a few of their current role players I think they're just in an incredible position to really leapfrog the rest of the East including Brooklyn and Boston.


Not if the cap goes down a bunch which it likely will.
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Post#46 » by Pennebaker » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:27 am

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Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.

Lol what?

IF we add Giannis... Its game over.

Keep hating my guy.


Giannis is a pushover. LeBron will still own him regardless of where he goes.
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Post#47 » by iamoti » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:41 am

KZ Okpala might be the next guy. He is raw like Giannis was when he entered the league, they used him in practice vs the Bucks to emulate what Giannis is doing.

I'm not saying he is the new Giannis but he's got potential.
dc wrote:Also with the Heat's recent history, you don't know yet what gem they might unearth in the next couple years. You can't simply take into account who they have right now.

They certainly have the track record to make you think they'll find another couple guys who can play who right now you've never heard of or you don't think much of as a prospect.


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Post#48 » by Locrian » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:51 am

dorkestra wrote:I like the balance of personalities they have now to succeed. I would be really careful about what kind of personality they would add to the mix. It's got to be someone willing to work and scrap. These guys won't accept a slacker.


Probably the last thing to worry as long as Pat Riley is in the drivers seat..
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Post#49 » by drosereturn » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:54 am

Riley is the type to s&t herro and bam for Giannis tho bc Masai can easily acquire Giannis.
It guarantees a top 3 player and gets rid of players who will get big payday so its not all bad.
Butler, Giannis, and someone like PG 13 will form a dynasty.
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Post#50 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:59 am

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Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.


In 2021 if they got even one of Giannis, Kawhi or PG, they would be the favorites

it's crazy to me what kind of credit PG always gets
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Post#51 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:01 am

They can if they find someone who fits in their culture and style.
If they need to compromise to accommodate the "star" it might backfire.
I think they have enough leadership, in the locker room to the coaching stuff up to Riley to prevent that from happening.
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Post#52 » by vxmike » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:02 am

Richard4444 wrote:Fake News!!!

Cap Space Miami 2021 Season

Butler - 36
Herro - 4
Okpala - 1,8
Ryan Anderson - 5.2M
Total payroll - 47M
Bam Cap Hold 15,3
Duncan Cap Hold 2,1
Nunn Cap Hold 2,1
Roster Charges - 6
Total Salary used - 72,5
Cap Space (109M)- 36.5 (barely 1 Max salary)

And I didn't pick Silva and Iggys TO , didnt re-sign Jones, Dragic, Olynik and Crowder.

Miami should try to lock Dragic and Crowder. Especially if they miss Giannis.

They could make the team weaker if they trade chemistry and depth (Dragic/Crowder/Jones/Olynik) for a max player like Oladipo, Jrue Holiday or even PG13.


They can give Dragic a huge one year deal for next year with his Bird rights then re-sign him with the Room Exception summer of 2021 after they grab a max guy in FA.
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Post#53 » by iamoti » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:09 am

Honestly i'm not sure adding a max player is the only way to go. We have 2 young guys in Bam and Herro with tons of potential and room to grow. Bam is just exploring his offensive potential and if he adds a solid jumpshot + decent 3pt shot he would be unstoppable. Herro has shown he can be a quality playmaker and can only get better. Adding a max guy would only slow their progress down. Spo has let them make all the mistakes possible and trusted them to learn and it shows in this playoffs.

What i would do is add someone like Lowry/Jrue Holiday as a starting PG. Move Dragic back to the bench and keep him fresh for the playoffs. We are talking about a 34yo Dragic after all who has a record of injuries.
Beside a PG i would try to replace Olynyk with someone like Ibaka. Maybe package him to the Raptors with Nunn for a sign and trade. I think he's an expiring contract next season.
Resign Dragic to a 1 year 20m+ for the next season and a team friendly deal in 2021
Resign Crowder with the MLE
Resign Meyers Leonard to vet min
Draft a wing player with the 1st round pick
Let DJJ go, He will probably get a good offer elsewhere.

A lineup like this:
Lowry/Dragic/vet min
Robinson/Herro/1st round pick
Butler/Iggy/1st round pick
Crowder/Ibaka/KZ Okpala
Bam/Ibaka/Leonard

I really feel we can win with such a lineup.
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Post#54 » by PistolPeteJR » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:12 am

lakers2020 wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.


In 2021 if they got even one of Giannis, Kawhi or PG, they would be the favorites


I'm doubtul they'd want to sign Kawhi at 31 years old to a long-term deal knowing his condition and the fact that the Heat culture = chemistry + a go-go-go grit and grind.
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Post#55 » by goodboy » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:08 pm

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goodboy wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.

Lol what?

IF we add Giannis... Its game over.

Keep hating my guy.


Giannis is a pushover. LeBron will still own him regardless of where he goes.

Not if he's with Miami. He couldn't even push Spo out, imagine Giannis. gg
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Post#56 » by R-DAWG » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:19 pm

All the superstars are considering signing with the Knicks.
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Post#57 » by Mamba81p » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:33 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:isn't the salary cap going to be way lower than it is now? I don't see how they can fit 2 max + butler in that scenario


the max is a percentage of cap...so that would go down too, no?


Yes, but Jimmy's salary won't go down, and the same goes for every player currently with contract
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Post#58 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:37 pm

Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.


They can already beat them, let alone with additions.
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Post#59 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:52 pm

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dhsilv2 wrote:
Mamba81p wrote:isn't the salary cap going to be way lower than it is now? I don't see how they can fit 2 max + butler in that scenario


the max is a percentage of cap...so that would go down too, no?


Yes, but Jimmy's salary won't go down, and the same goes for every player currently with contract


Without a doubt, that's why teams have to get players in fast before their salary goes up and then just pay the taxes...
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Post#60 » by HeartBreakKid » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:55 pm

There's hardly any good free agents this summer.

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