Jokic travel or not?

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Jokic travel or not? 

Post#1 » by RoLo » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:34 am

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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#2 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:38 am

The NBA essentially ruled travels legal years ago.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#3 » by Bornstellar » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:41 am

I thought it was at first but after watching it for awhile it looks like he keeps the pivot foot, his right foot came like 2 inches off the ground when he hopped off his pivot foot so he technically jumped. Not a travel, just good footwork
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#4 » by VanWest82 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:45 am

Yes he picked up his pivot foot and shot off his other foot.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#5 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:54 am

So many players change their pivot foot when they fade away....

Same thing with step throughs...

Refs let it slide
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Post#6 » by Woodsanity » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:55 am

People get away with way worse look at Giannis. Always travels
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#7 » by Karmaloop » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:02 am

VanWest82 wrote:Yes he picked up his pivot foot and shot off his other foot.


This. In real time, it looks like a legit Dirk-esque move.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#8 » by spacemonkey » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:05 am

You can pick up your pivot foot but you have to release the ball before the pivot foot comes back down.

It's the second step. What do people think picking up a dribble and taking two steps to layup is, since the first step is the pivot foot and lifts off the floor, but the jump comes off the second step?

Or do people seriously think you jump off the pivot foot?

Do a layup, do you jump off your first step or second? Now change the direction of the layup so you are fading.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#9 » by sikma42 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:07 am

100% clean. Was never a travel. You can pick up your pivot foot but have to shoot before it returns to the ground.

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Post#10 » by bubonicphoniks » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:08 am

I think after the refs treatment in game 2 this thread looks very whiny.

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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#11 » by gorz » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:08 am

VanWest82 wrote:Yes he picked up his pivot foot and shot off his other foot.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#12 » by Dr Aki » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 am

VanWest82 wrote:Yes he picked up his pivot foot and shot off his other foot.


this is allowed and is not a travel.

it is only a travel once his original pivot foot returns to the floor without shooting/passing
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#13 » by VanWest82 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:11 am

Dr Aki wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Yes he picked up his pivot foot and shot off his other foot.


this is allowed and is not a travel.

it is only a travel once his pivot foot returns to the floor without shooting/passing


He picks up his dribble, takes two steps, pivots, turns, turns again, and then takes a third step as he's shooting.

Edit: I guess you could call one of those the gather. There's a lot of questionable foot shuffling going on there.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#14 » by Clyde Frazier » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:13 am

He shuffles his feet after the gather and then pivots. Looks like a travel to me. That isn't getting called in real time though and I hate the travel police unless it's truly egregious.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#15 » by Dr Aki » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:15 am

VanWest82 wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Yes he picked up his pivot foot and shot off his other foot.


this is allowed and is not a travel.

it is only a travel once his pivot foot returns to the floor without shooting/passing


He picks up his dribble, takes two steps, pivots, turns, turns again, and then takes a third step as he's shooting.

Edit: I guess you call one of those the gather. There's a lot of questionable foot shuffling going on there.


if you establish a pivot foot (jokic's left foot), you can continue taking as many steps with your off foot (right) as you are allowed without moving your pivot foot

watch it carefully, jokic did not move his pivot foot (left), jumps off his right foot for the jumper
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#16 » by C3H6N6O6 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:49 am

People have been travelling on fadeaways since the 80s. It is only called if it is super obvious.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#17 » by C3H6N6O6 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:49 am

People have been travelling on fadeaways since the 80s. It is only called if it is super obvious.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#18 » by raptor jesus » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 am

Not a travel. Similar to a step thru move - you can lift your pivot foot as long as you release the ball before it comes down.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#19 » by FinnTheHuman » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:56 am

I've always thought if you're static you're simply not allowed to make 2 steps like Jokic does here, and if you're not static you can. My body and mind don't wanna accept that this is not a travel, even tho ppl here claim it isn't.
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Re: Jokic travel or not? 

Post#20 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:59 am

No travel. His left foot was the pivot foot and it never hit the ground before the ball left his hands.

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