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Post#1661 » by 100proof » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:06 pm

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He’s not a terrible shooter; he had a bad 20 game stretch.

In HS, he shot 35% on over 600 attempts. He shot 83%+ from the line. He’ll be fine at the next level.


People said the same about Romeo.

Give me someone who is more athletic, is stronger, is faster and already shoots with better form. RJ already has a midrange pullup and is perhaps the most lethal of all guards in transition.


RJ is a worse shooter. Nuclear athlete, but so are many busts like Josh Jackson. No indicators he’ll ever learn how to shoot. Im good.


as I posted a little later than the one you quote.

If Mike Miller is working with him over the past 8 months and is stating there is an improvement already and that he sees no reason why kid wont be a high 30s low 40s 3pt shooter. Thats good for me.

Maxey's form is broken.
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Post#1662 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:10 pm

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Does maxey last to 14? and he is a terrible shooter.

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I take RJ Hampton 10/10 times over Maxey.


He’s not a terrible shooter; he had a bad 20 game stretch.

In HS, he shot 35% on over 600 attempts. He shot 83%+ from the line. He’ll be fine at the next level.


People said the same about Romeo.

Give me someone who is more athletic, is stronger, is faster and already shoots with better form. RJ already has a midrange pullup and is perhaps the most lethal of all guards in transition.


I think Maxey would be a solid get but in staying with my mandate of drafting high for "combustible offensive firepower" or at least the potential for that, I'll take Hampton's raw potential over Maxey right now. Highly ranked high school player. Explosive, athletic and the shooting form is good enough to make me think it will improve. Think he can add some strength to that frame. I think this is a good group for him to learn from and he doesn't have to impact right away as a primary ballhandler.
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Post#1663 » by djFan71 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:17 pm

Anyone do 14 & 30 for 11 and grab Vassell if he's there? Spurs love them some late picks.
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Post#1664 » by leper-con » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:25 pm

they just can't screw this draft up. We need someone who can push us over the top.
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Post#1665 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:28 pm

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People said the same about Romeo.

Give me someone who is more athletic, is stronger, is faster and already shoots with better form. RJ already has a midrange pullup and is perhaps the most lethal of all guards in transition.


RJ is a worse shooter. Nuclear athlete, but so are many busts like Josh Jackson. No indicators he’ll ever learn how to shoot. Im good.


as I posted a little later than the one you quote.

If Mike Miller is working with him over the past 8 months and is stating there is an improvement already and that he sees no reason why kid wont be a high 30s low 40s 3pt shooter. Thats good for me.

Maxey's form is broken.


If it was broken, he wouldnt shoot that good from the line.
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Post#1666 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:29 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
100proof wrote:
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He’s not a terrible shooter; he had a bad 20 game stretch.

In HS, he shot 35% on over 600 attempts. He shot 83%+ from the line. He’ll be fine at the next level.


People said the same about Romeo.

Give me someone who is more athletic, is stronger, is faster and already shoots with better form. RJ already has a midrange pullup and is perhaps the most lethal of all guards in transition.


I think Maxey would be a solid get but in staying with my mandate of drafting high for "combustible offensive firepower" or at least the potential for that, I'll take Hampton's raw potential over Maxey right now. Highly ranked high school player. Explosive, athletic and the shooting form is good enough to make me think it will improve. Think he can add some strength to that frame. I think this is a good group for him to learn from and he doesn't have to impact right away as a primary ballhandler.


This principle is fine, but doesnt that path lead to us drafting Poku [which I kinda **** with, TBH)?
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Post#1667 » by 100proof » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:30 pm

djFan71 wrote:Anyone do 14 & 30 for 11 and grab Vassell if he's there? Spurs love them some late picks.


I think I would. Still have a shot at a good rotation player at 26, so yeah. (Smith, Joe, Ramsey,

But a potential pure 3andD to pair on the wing with the Jays long term. Kinda hard to pass that up. I think he can start right away in the NBA too. Drafting him certainly allows for a Hayward trade too (well that and Tatums growth at being a secondary playmaker)

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Post#1668 » by TheMartian » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:30 pm

djFan71 wrote:Anyone do 14 & 30 for 11 and grab Vassell if he's there? Spurs love them some late picks.


I would love for DA to consolidate picks to move higher in the draft and get the player he wants. I hope he learned his lesson last year (re: the Herro pick) and know which GMs are like Pat the Snake who will screw us over and pick DA's guy.
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Post#1669 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:31 pm

Everyone thinks Ainge is trash at drafting AND wants him to trade all his picks so he only gets one shot. Hard to parse that logic.

Trade up for obvious hall of fame talent like Doncic when Phoenix, Sacramento and Atlanta blunder their franchises away, but otherwise nah. Trade down and get as many swings as possible.
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Post#1670 » by 100proof » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:31 pm

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RJ is a worse shooter. Nuclear athlete, but so are many busts like Josh Jackson. No indicators he’ll ever learn how to shoot. Im good.


as I posted a little later than the one you quote.

If Mike Miller is working with him over the past 8 months and is stating there is an improvement already and that he sees no reason why kid wont be a high 30s low 40s 3pt shooter. Thats good for me.

Maxey's form is broken.


If it was broken, he wouldnt shoot that good from the line.


He has 2 forms. 1 from the ft line and 1 from outside. Its really weird. He has a nice release on FTS and on 3pters its a really low release and he does something weird with his legs on the gather/jump.
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Post#1671 » by djFan71 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:38 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Everyone thinks Ainge is trash at drafting AND wants him to trade all his picks so he only gets one shot. Hard to parse that logic.

Trade up for obvious hall of fame talent like Doncic when Phoenix, Sacramento and Atlanta blunder their franchises away, but otherwise nah. Trade down and get as many swings as possible.

I lean that way in general. Then get enamored with a guy and want to trade up, lol.

Our current scenario is pretty unique though, so many rookies already and 4 more picks. I'm ok using a lower one to make sure we get the right guy. We'd still get 3 swings at it.
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Post#1672 » by JHTruth » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:40 pm

I'd do what I can to move up and draft Ball or Hayes. This team really needs more playmaking and size at PG. Barring that, we'll get a few guys who will ride the pine to replace our current pine-riders..
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Post#1673 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:40 pm

Yah, I still keep coming back to Poku. I dont give a hoot that his frame is narrow and hes too skiny— theres only so many 7 footers on the planet with his combination of fluidity and BBIQ. I’d rather strike out on a guy like that then hit a double with the next Olynyk.
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Post#1674 » by djFan71 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:41 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, I still keep coming back to Poku. I dont give a hoot that his frame is narrow and hes too skiny— theres only so many 7 footers on the planet with his combination of fluidity and BBIQ. I’d rather strike out on a guy like that then hit a double with the next Olynyk.

Do you take him at 14 or hope he lasts to 26? A euro-KD possibility is super-intriguing. KD was a stick as a rook, too.
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Post#1675 » by JHTruth » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:41 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:Everyone thinks Ainge is trash at drafting AND wants him to trade all his picks so he only gets one shot. Hard to parse that logic.

Trade up for obvious hall of fame talent like Doncic when Phoenix, Sacramento and Atlanta blunder their franchises away, but otherwise nah. Trade down and get as many swings as possible.

I lean that way in general. Then get enamored with a guy and want to trade up, lol.

Our current scenario is pretty unique though, so many rookies already and 4 more picks. I'm ok using a lower one to make sure we get the right guy. We'd still get 3 swings at it.


In order to take all three we'd need to dump current guys. Say goodbye to Waters, Edwards etc..
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Post#1676 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:42 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, I still keep coming back to Poku. I dont give a hoot that his frame is narrow and hes too skiny— theres only so many 7 footers on the planet with his combination of fluidity and BBIQ. I’d rather strike out on a guy like that then hit a double with the next Olynyk.


The funniest thing is I usually always cant see it with these lower level Europe kids. But this dude has rare skills. Like super rare. I dont get how hes not more hyped.
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Post#1677 » by JHTruth » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:42 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, I still keep coming back to Poku. I dont give a hoot that his frame is narrow and hes too skiny— theres only so many 7 footers on the planet with his combination of fluidity and BBIQ. I’d rather strike out on a guy like that then hit a double with the next Olynyk.


I think if you can't move up to get an elite PG, you take Poku. This team needs a HR swing like that rather than another combo guard who won't crack the rotation for 4 years..
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Post#1678 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:43 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, I still keep coming back to Poku. I dont give a hoot that his frame is narrow and hes too skiny— theres only so many 7 footers on the planet with his combination of fluidity and BBIQ. I’d rather strike out on a guy like that then hit a double with the next Olynyk.

Do you take him at 14 or hope he lasts to 26? A euro-KD possibility is super-intriguing. KD was a stick as a rook, too.


14. Dont want to risk it. Would consider trading up— could see the Spurs loving him.
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Post#1679 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:46 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:Everyone thinks Ainge is trash at drafting AND wants him to trade all his picks so he only gets one shot. Hard to parse that logic.

Trade up for obvious hall of fame talent like Doncic when Phoenix, Sacramento and Atlanta blunder their franchises away, but otherwise nah. Trade down and get as many swings as possible.

I lean that way in general. Then get enamored with a guy and want to trade up, lol.

Our current scenario is pretty unique though, so many rookies already and 4 more picks. I'm ok using a lower one to make sure we get the right guy. We'd still get 3 swings at it.

I guess I don't have an issue with having lots of young players that the team controls. They're all positive trade assets at worst. Give me some crappy euro stash instead of wasting the 30th pick to move up 3 spots in a flat draft. I'd rather kick the can and keep trading for future picks like they've been doing, who knows if that's a possibility this year, but every year there are awful GMs who fall in love with the next Zach Collins and they just need to have him.
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Post#1680 » by djFan71 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:49 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, I still keep coming back to Poku. I dont give a hoot that his frame is narrow and hes too skiny— theres only so many 7 footers on the planet with his combination of fluidity and BBIQ. I’d rather strike out on a guy like that then hit a double with the next Olynyk.

Do you take him at 14 or hope he lasts to 26? A euro-KD possibility is super-intriguing. KD was a stick as a rook, too.


14. Dont want to risk it. Would consider trading up— could see the Spurs loving him.

Yeah, seems like a total Spurs pick. That means getting to 9,10 somehow - probably 14, 26, maybe more at that point. Could totally be worth it in a few years, though.

I don't mind the Ringer's draft for us at all. Poku, Bey, Mannion. I don't know much about Mannion, so could go him or Reed or something else there if it goes KOC's way. But, I'm on board with the first 2 picks.

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