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LoveMyRaps wrote:I hope we draft Mane with our late second round pick.
S ID wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:I hope we draft Mane with our late second round pick.
6’6 athletic combo guard with a 7’ wingspan. He’ll probably be a riser. Do you think Masai could reach for him at 29?
He came to Canada at 7 from Senegal, started playing ball when he was 12, and reportedly didn’t take it serious till he was 15-16. Seems like a Masai type pick.
LoveMyRaps wrote:S ID wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:I hope we draft Mane with our late second round pick.
6’6 athletic combo guard with a 7’ wingspan. He’ll probably be a riser. Do you think Masai could reach for him at 29?
He came to Canada at 7 from Senegal, started playing ball when he was 12, and reportedly didn’t take it serious till he was 15-16. Seems like a Masai type pick.
A couple months back he said he'd remain in the draft ONLY if he got a team promise. Looks like he did... Would not be surprised if it was Masai.
OGLife wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:S ID wrote:6’6 athletic combo guard with a 7’ wingspan. He’ll probably be a riser. Do you think Masai could reach for him at 29?
He came to Canada at 7 from Senegal, started playing ball when he was 12, and reportedly didn’t take it serious till he was 15-16. Seems like a Masai type pick.
A couple months back he said he'd remain in the draft ONLY if he got a team promise. Looks like he did... Would not be surprised if it was Masai.
He looks like he should play the 4.
NotMyKawhi wrote:tyler bey is exactly what we need
he's the steal of the draft
Jay scrubb looks intriguing, what's the story on him?Dalek wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:As it stands right now my top 5 for our pick (not set on my order just yet) would be:
- Theo Maledon
- Jahmi’us Ramsey
- Jaden McDaniels
- Tyrell Terry
- Poku
H.M - Leandro Bolmaro, Isaiah Joe (admittedly these 2 feel like could be role players to me)
Any of those and I’ll be beyond happy with our draft and the last couple I’d be still fairly ok with. The rest of the names I see mentioned in this thread just feel very high end roleplayer players at their ceiling (which is what I feel much of our best young talent is), I’d like to see our development staff get the chance to work on a player that might just offer more...
Interesting list of upside picks. The guys I have been curious about that also are similar to what you are looking for are also in the ESPN top 100. These guys stand out as athletes to me:
Kenyon Martin Jr. 6'7" (19) - Kenyon Martin's son who is an absolute freak leaper at his size - reminds me of Larry Nance Jr. I don't like that he skipped college, but he went to a prep program for the NBA so he is a bit under-the-radar. Kids of former NBA guys tend to succeed.Spoiler:
Josh Hall - 6'8" (19 turns 20 in October) Prep schooler that looks like he has some basketball scoring skills but is mainly just a great long stride runner like Pascal Siakam. I like his mobility and his shot looks solid.Spoiler:
Jay Scrubb - 6'6" (20) and offers a scorers mentality and has great athleticism. Not sure about his route to the NBA, but he has talent.Spoiler:
Kahlil Whitney - 6'7" (19) was a freshman on Kentucky and decided to leave in January. He is a freak athlete (7 foot wingspan and 42 inch vert) but he did have some iffy college numbers.Spoiler:
LoveMyRaps wrote:S ID wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:I hope we draft Mane with our late second round pick.
6’6 athletic combo guard with a 7’ wingspan. He’ll probably be a riser. Do you think Masai could reach for him at 29?
He came to Canada at 7 from Senegal, started playing ball when he was 12, and reportedly didn’t take it serious till he was 15-16. Seems like a Masai type pick.
A couple months back he said he'd remain in the draft ONLY if he got a team promise. Looks like he did... Would not be surprised if it was Masai.
genius- wrote:Jay scrubb looks intriguing, what's the story on him?
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Indeed wrote:NotMyKawhi wrote:tyler bey is exactly what we need
he's the steal of the draft
Not a bad prospect, just a bit old. He will be 24, which is older than OG and Davis?
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Indeed wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:
As it stands right now my top 5 for our pick (not set on my order just yet) would be:
- Theo Maledon
- Jahmi’us Ramsey
- Jaden McDaniels
- Tyrell Terry
- Poku
H.M - Leandro Bolmaro, Isaiah Joe (admittedly these 2 feel like could be role players to me)
Any of those and I’ll be beyond happy with our draft and the last couple I’d be still fairly ok with. The rest of the names I see mentioned in this thread just feel very high end roleplayer players at their ceiling (which is what I feel much of our best young talent is), I’d like to see our development staff get the chance to work on a player that might just offer more...
Hmm, even McDaniels could be a role player. Definitely not at OG/Siakam level, while he maybe comparable to Boucher, where they contribute better on different area. Boucher with his 7'4 wingspan would be more 3+D, while McDaniels with his 7'1 wingspan may rely more on his ball penetration and isolation, but both of them seem to be below average passer (lack of vision).
Yes, he doesn't/hasn't scored enough where I'd buy that he could develop into a star at the pro level.
I have a couple of beliefs about the late first/2nd round. 1) It's rare to get even competent rotational players in this range. It's exceptionally rare to get stars. Typically, the players that do end up stars drafted in this range could score at above average volume at their previous level. The exceptions are players from pro levels (like Europe). 2) The guys that stick tend to be more mature/older players because the upside players in this range typically can't get on the court and then get lost in the numbers game. There's a draft every year, and the hype from being a rookie quickly disappears by the following draft. Teams just don't have the minutes or patience.
The Raptors job here is to make sure they get an NBA player out of this pick, not to suss out a diamond in the rough that could be a star by measuring arm length or shot creation or anything like that. Most of these guys won't have the ability to contribute at all. So the first question is 1) Can he get on the floor in year 1? and then 2) What weaknesses are easiest to remedy?
NotMyKawhi wrote:tyler bey is exactly what we need
he's the steal of the draft
Psubs wrote:https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jimmy-butler-1.html
Let's find the Jimmy Butler.
Nothing spectacular. 6'6 with 6'8 wingspan. Shot near 50% all 3 years. Didn't shoot the 3 well on a few attempts. A/T was over 1.5.
Played in a decent conference. Pretty good advanced stats. Just solid all around.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
Dalek wrote:I am not sure about Hughes as a scoring guard, at least how I would class that role. To me, he does his best work in isolation setting up for a jumpshot. Even though I do see issues with his shot selection at times, he is really skilled at creating his shot on the perimeter.
The big issue with Hughes is that he cannot finish at the rim. He shot only 1.09 points per shot around the rim in the half court [45th percentile] which is terrible considering he has good size as a wing. Toronto needs a guy who can draw fouls and make plays off the dribble. Hughes is more of 3 and D guy with some ball handling capability, which is okay, but I wonder if there are guys who could be a bit better.
A guy like Mason Jones adds much more of a scoring dimension, drawing fouls at a great rate and adds better scoring in transition.
casual_raps_fan wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:Indeed wrote:
Hmm, even McDaniels could be a role player. Definitely not at OG/Siakam level, while he maybe comparable to Boucher, where they contribute better on different area. Boucher with his 7'4 wingspan would be more 3+D, while McDaniels with his 7'1 wingspan may rely more on his ball penetration and isolation, but both of them seem to be below average passer (lack of vision).
Yes, he doesn't/hasn't scored enough where I'd buy that he could develop into a star at the pro level.
I have a couple of beliefs about the late first/2nd round. 1) It's rare to get even competent rotational players in this range. It's exceptionally rare to get stars. Typically, the players that do end up stars drafted in this range could score at above average volume at their previous level. The exceptions are players from pro levels (like Europe). 2) The guys that stick tend to be more mature/older players because the upside players in this range typically can't get on the court and then get lost in the numbers game. There's a draft every year, and the hype from being a rookie quickly disappears by the following draft. Teams just don't have the minutes or patience.
The Raptors job here is to make sure they get an NBA player out of this pick, not to suss out a diamond in the rough that could be a star by measuring arm length or shot creation or anything like that. Most of these guys won't have the ability to contribute at all. So the first question is 1) Can he get on the floor in year 1? and then 2) What weaknesses are easiest to remedy?
I don't think this is true for the Raptors at all. Since Masai has come, the only non rotation player we've drafted in the 1st round is Bruno. Aside from him, we've selected Delon Wright, Poeltl, Siakam, OG. Even if we take Poeltl out of the equation since he was a lottery pick, we are still 3 of 4. When you take into account that our development program has improved and we've built a culture emphasizing player development, I think it's very likely that we at least get a rotation player.
Any other team not named the Spurs or Heat, I can agree with that point though.
casual_raps_fan wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:Indeed wrote:
Hmm, even McDaniels could be a role player. Definitely not at OG/Siakam level, while he maybe comparable to Boucher, where they contribute better on different area. Boucher with his 7'4 wingspan would be more 3+D, while McDaniels with his 7'1 wingspan may rely more on his ball penetration and isolation, but both of them seem to be below average passer (lack of vision).
Yes, he doesn't/hasn't scored enough where I'd buy that he could develop into a star at the pro level.
I have a couple of beliefs about the late first/2nd round. 1) It's rare to get even competent rotational players in this range. It's exceptionally rare to get stars. Typically, the players that do end up stars drafted in this range could score at above average volume at their previous level. The exceptions are players from pro levels (like Europe). 2) The guys that stick tend to be more mature/older players because the upside players in this range typically can't get on the court and then get lost in the numbers game. There's a draft every year, and the hype from being a rookie quickly disappears by the following draft. Teams just don't have the minutes or patience.
The Raptors job here is to make sure they get an NBA player out of this pick, not to suss out a diamond in the rough that could be a star by measuring arm length or shot creation or anything like that. Most of these guys won't have the ability to contribute at all. So the first question is 1) Can he get on the floor in year 1? and then 2) What weaknesses are easiest to remedy?
I don't think this is true for the Raptors at all. Since Masai has come, the only non rotation player we've drafted in the 1st round is Bruno. Aside from him, we've selected Delon Wright, Poeltl, Siakam, OG. Even if we take Poeltl out of the equation since he was a lottery pick, we are still 3 of 4. When you take into account that our development program has improved and we've built a culture emphasizing player development, I think it's very likely that we at least get a rotation player.
Any other team not named the Spurs or Heat, I can agree with that point though.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
BoyzNTheHood wrote:I'm going to put it at a very round ZERO PERCENT that this kid is available when we pick now. When he was 6'1" 160 lbs we had a shot because he was frail, but now he's the same size as guys like Trae, Ja, Steph, and Kyrie. But, to be honest, if I'm Masai I'd strongly consider moving up. This kid fits right in with the new wave point guard.