2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th: PT 2

Repeat 3-peat · Post #961 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:30 pm

Post #962 » by **kulaz3000** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:50 pm

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He is good enough of a ball handler to go to his right, that's without question, but he still finishes predominately with his left hand. He needs to work finishing with his right a lot better, otherwise, NBA teams are going to stop that once he gets to the basket.

At number 4, he is still my number one prospect at this stage.

Grodoboldo · Post #963 » by **Grodoboldo** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:10 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:

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He is good enough of a ball handler to go to his right, that's without question, but he still finishes predominately with his left hand. He needs to work finishing with his right a lot better, otherwise, NBA teams are going to stop that once he gets to the basket.

At number 4, he is still my number one prospect at this stage.

Hayes is the unsexy pick that a lot of people will regret not making in 4-5 years.

Grodoboldo · Post #964 » by **Grodoboldo** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:16 am

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@ShamsCharania: 2020 NBA Draft Combine participants list — LaMelo Ball will participate; projected top selections Anthony Edwards, James Wiseman and Obi Toppin are not: https://t.co/Yp3kK5mBAD

Welp. I wasn't high on Wiseman or Toppin anyway, but that doesn't project much confidence from Edwards.

Edit: Nesmith, Vassell and Williams also a no show. Wow, people learned a lot from Garland last year.

StunnerKO · Post #965 » by **StunnerKO** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:19 am

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Jcool0 · Post #966 » by **Jcool0** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:34 am

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MrFortune3 · Post #967 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:43 am

cjbulls wrote:No extra picks unless the Bulls have a very unique, specific target. The one thing this team does not need is to try to grow more young guys all at the same time. You spoil all of them by focusing on none of them.

There will be plenty of focus on the young guys. The FO is going to bring in as much young talent as possible if we follow the Nuggets model.

CjayC · Post #968 » by **CjayC** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:45 am

Props to Ball for not hiding because I feel like he only has to lose from that move, and not much to gain. Maybe he does good enough for Minnesota to engineer a deal with someone or convince them that there's some flex with a D-Lo, Ball backcourt.

MrFortune3 · Post #969 » by **MrFortune3** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:46 am

Grodoboldo wrote:

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@ShamsCharania: 2020 NBA Draft Combine participants list — LaMelo Ball will participate; projected top selections Anthony Edwards, James Wiseman and Obi Toppin are not: https://t.co/Yp3kK5mBAD

Welp. I wasn't high on Wiseman or Toppin anyway, but that doesn't project much confidence from Edwards.

Edit: Nesmith, Vassell and Williams also a no show. Wow, people learned a lot from Garland last year.

The combine will do nothing to help the top tier prospects so no point in participating unless you're unsure of where you're going to land.

CjayC · Post #970 » by **CjayC** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:28 am

Grodoboldo wrote:

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@ShamsCharania: 2020 NBA Draft Combine participants list — LaMelo Ball will participate; projected top selections Anthony Edwards, James Wiseman and Obi Toppin are not: https://t.co/Yp3kK5mBAD

Welp. I wasn't high on Wiseman or Toppin anyway, but that doesn't project much confidence from Edwards.

Edit: Nesmith, Vassell and Williams also a no show. Wow, people learned a lot from Garland last year.

Edwards solidified himself as no less than a Top 2 pick from his play in NCAA. He's got probably the best productivity to go along with a high ceiling. I think it's a good decision on his part to not participate.

If I'm Wiseman though, I'm definitely letting the hype do the talking for me, especially since a ton of big boards have him as a Top 3 prospect even on that small sample size. There's a lot for Obi to lose as well with only 1 year of elite production. Better to leave off on a good note, than raise more questions about his position as a tweener.

drosereturn · Post #971 » by **drosereturn** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:32 am

CjayC wrote:Props to Ball for not hiding because I feel like he only has to lose from that move, and not much to gain. Maybe he does good enough for Minnesota to engineer a deal with someone or convince them that there's some flex with a D-Lo, Ball backcourt.

Hiding has nothing to gain as with the case of Wiseman because he has been a mystery man and his stock will continue to plummet. Toppin will suffer as well but Edwards will be the few unique guys that can get away with it and still be the top pick.
Ball doesnt want to be drafted by GS so he is obviously gunning #1,3,4 as his destination where he can be the primary ball handler and be the guy. At this point, its pretty much safe to say Wiseman will be the guy falling to the Bulls unless he had a promise.

BullsFTW · Post #972 » by **BullsFTW** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:21 am

As of right I still have Edwards going #1, and if GSW keeps the pick, I think they’ll draft Deni. Charlotte in my opinion will draft Wiseman, which leaves the Bulls the option to draft Ball or Hayes.

wonderboy2 · Post #973 » by **wonderboy2** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:35 am

Can’t see Deni going number 2 in the draft.

rtblues · Post #974 » by **rtblues** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:44 am

I'd actually like to buy another 2nd round pick. It would come very cheap and could actually yield something.

Andi Obst · Post #975 » by **Andi Obst** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:54 am

When most people consider you the mystery man and you're projected to go top 5 anyway, there's absolutely no reason to attend the combine. Never been a Wiseman fan, but that's just the obvious thing to do for him.

Interesting that Ball will apparently be there, though.

Andi Obst · Post #976 » by **Andi Obst** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:00 am

Grodoboldo wrote:Hayes is the unsexy pick that a lot of people will regret not making in 4-5 years.

I don't even see what makes him unsexy tbh. Super smart guy, great passing instincts, flashed some really fun shot creation as well. Love watching the guy play.

BullsFTW · Post #977 » by **BullsFTW** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:03 am

wonderboy2 wrote:Can’t see Deni going number 2 in the draft.

Who do you see GSW selecting if they keep the pick?

Grodoboldo · Post #978 » by **Grodoboldo** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:56 am

Little Nathan wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Hayes is the unsexy pick that a lot of people will regret not making in 4-5 years.

I don't even see what makes him unsexy tbh. Super smart guy, great passing instincts, flashed some really fun shot creation as well. Love watching the guy play.

Me too, but apparently we're in the minority, because apart from the ringer and NBADraft Net, other sites (as well as a lot of posters) think he should go mid-lottery, which I don't agree at all.

PlayerUp · Post #979 » by **PlayerUp** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:01 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Hayes is the unsexy pick that a lot of people will regret not making in 4-5 years.

I don't even see what makes him unsexy tbh. Super smart guy, great passing instincts, flashed some really fun shot creation as well. Love watching the guy play.

Me too, but apparently we're in the minority, because apart from the ringer and NBADraft Net, other sites (as well as a lot of posters) think he should go mid-lottery, which I don't agree at all.

Hayes doesn't have a 43 inch vertical jump. Pass. That's the mindset of some.

PlayerUp · Post #980 » by **PlayerUp** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:04 pm

Nobody here should be sold on any prospect yet. I'm telling you predraft workouts will change everything this particular draft.

A couple of these 3-14 lottery picks are going to show some major improvements. Those are the prospects I would be interested in and why I think in the end AK keeps the #4 because some specific prospect will have vastly improved in one or more areas to the point that AK will be sold on them as our pick.

Players that could rise include Deni (shooting), Hayes (various skills/shooting), Okoro (offensive game/shooting), Wiseman (not participating), Okongwu (offensive game), Patrick Williams (shooting/offense), Cole Anthony (shooting/health), Tyrell Terry (defense/various skills), Kira Lewis (Strength/Various Skills), RJ (defense/shooting), Poku (various skills).

Who do you want?