Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

[HeatIn5]

Thinking about it a little bit more, I really like the idea of signing Cousins. The risk/reward factor just makes too much sense. He probably is at or near the top of my FA list.

Cousins and Dipo’ would allow us to make another run next season, while also remaining flexible for 2021 free agency.

Cousins Dipo or Ibaka Dipo

[twix2500]

I definitely want Ibaka. Bam needs help. If we want more scoring out of Bam the Heat relieve some of the defensive responsibility off of Bam.

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[dshearn]

I love that spaculation part of the season. I like the Boogie idea. I think the culture will make wonders to him if he buy in. He will be cheap and he have something to prove.
Ibaka will be a long shot because we won't offer him more the a one year deal i guess. But look at Favors. He avg 10 ppg and 10 ribs. He can really help us.
I'll give Nunn and the 20 pick for Dipo because we probably don't have the need in the pick and Nunn's place on the team is not make it worte keeping him. His value will only go down.

I think we can boost Nunn's value more. He showed enough in the finals to think he has more shine to him.

[RexBoyWonder]

Some of you are talking about Cousins like it's 2017. The guy can't stay on the court, and even before that he was slow and had an attitude.

Not what we need, go look up his playoff stats with GSW (His only playoffs in his career).

for the Vet Min, maybe. But we need a reliable big.

[Wiltside]

Some of you are talking about Cousins like it's 2017. The guy can't stay on the court, and even before that he was slow and had an attitude.

Not what we need, go look up his playoff stats with GSW (His only playoffs in his career).

for the Vet Min, maybe. But we need a reliable big.

They said Jimmy had an attitude too. Zo also. Which they did, but perhaps DeMarcus has been humbled over the past few years and would benefit from our organisational structure and discipline. Outside of his brief time in Golden State, he hasn't exactly been around winning organisations or situations. No doubt he could've handled himself better during those stints in Sacramento and New Orleans too, but perhaps he has a bit more maturity and perspective after the past couple seasons.

The playoff stats is super small sample size alert. Wouldn't read a lot into that run - he missed like 70% of the regular season, played a little, got injured and missed like 2 full series' and then came back and played OK in limited minutes in the Finals they lost. He was also playing injured: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2877280-demarcus-cousins-says-he-played-through-injury-for-warriors-in-2019-nba-playoffs

You're right though, he can't be the lone big man signing. His injury history makes him unreliable for much more than a vet minimum signing, but if you could get him a team option 2nd year, I'd do it in a heart beat.

Ideally, we'd pick up another veteran big man who is OK being a third stringer but can step in for 15 minutes a night if something happened to Boogie. Perhaps Leonard is that guy, or we look at an improved version of Leonard in Aron Baynes as the potential stretch 5 option and forgo Boogie.

Given our contract situation and cap space, it's hard to find a better low risk/high reward signing than Cousins. I don't think anyone is under any illusions that it isn't 2017-18 anymore and he's not a 25/12/5 guy. Could he be a 15/7/2 guy with a decent 3pt shot? I think so. We need more size, and even with his diminished lateral quickness, he still provides a rebounder and a big that would fit alongside Bam offensively.

All depends on his health and commitment. If we weren't on his radar before, we certainly will be now.

[RexBoyWonder]

Bigs that we take a gamble on next to Bam (If they accept a 1 year deal):

Bring Crowder back
Gallinari
Dario Saric
Jerami Grant


Trey Lyles
Christian Wood
Cousins
JaMychal Green
Paul Millsap
Aron Baynes
Derrick Favors
Marc Gasol
Harry Giles
Juan Hernangomez
Frank Kaminsky (not a free agent but would bring the LOLs)

Some of them are done IMO (Millsap, Gasol, Cousins)
Some are totally unproven (Giles, Wood, Lyles)
Some don't really fit next to bam (Favors, Hernangomez)

The top 4 on that list are probably the best options IMO.

[HeatFanLifer]

I leave for one day and everyone is suddenly high on Cousins. Thank you Rex for being the voice of reason in my absence.

[3ballbomber]

I leave for one day and everyone is suddenly high on Cousins. Thank you Rex for being the voice of reason in my absence.

It's not 2014 where we we're rebuilding & most likely taken on a Cousins sort of player. We are ECF Champs & NBA finalists. We're done being desperate & singing Waiters type, hope for the best projects. Surely we've moved on from the Beasley, Whiteside type of negative attitude.

The winning formula is the one we have currently. Mature, selfless, right mindset & a buy in to the culture. We've built great chemistry & developed a brotherhood. If we add we bring in a player that fits & complements what we have. Cousins has never shown he has any Heat qualities in him. He's the complete opposite.

Furthermore he's been plagued w/ injuries since 2017. His last full season was 2016. He tore his achilles & didn't get back on the crt until 2019 where he then tore his quadricep. Then tore his ACL when signed w/ LA. 2 of those injuries occurred during offseasons. Very high risk. We've had our share of injuries, Goran the very recent. We don't need anymore. We're already looking into Oladipo who was out for a yr.

Moreover Cousins chose Lakers over us when we were interested last yr. He's not the one we want. Besides. being the #1 destination, players will be reaching out to Pat. There may be no need for desperation.

[Miami590]

It would be stupid to sign Cousins to anything more than the vet minimum. Our best bet is Ibaka if Riley can convince him to take a pay cut.

Also, look out for Lamarcus Aldridge as a potential buyout candidate late in the season

[twix2500]

Bigs that we take a gamble on next to Bam (If they accept a 1 year deal):

Bring Crowder back
Gallinari
Dario Saric
Jerami Grant


Trey Lyles
Christian Wood
Cousins
JaMychal Green
Paul Millsap
Aron Baynes
Derrick Favors
Marc Gasol
Harry Giles
Juan Hernangomez
Frank Kaminsky (not a free agent but would bring the LOLs)

Some of them are done IMO (Millsap, Gasol, Cousins)
Some are totally unproven (Giles, Wood, Lyles)
Some don't really fit next to bam (Favors, Hernangomez)

The top 4 on that list are probably the best options IMO.

I think Dario Saric should be a player we talk about. I do not think there is much difference between him and Gallinari except being in shape. Not sure how Pheonix feels about him or the league. I'm interested in signing Ibaka and Saric together and move on from Olynyk and Leonard. Ibaka, Saric and KZ would be a complete complementary frontcourt to Bam.

Saric issue appears to be keeping shape. Hes a young veteran with playoff experience that still can improve.

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[Beenie]

Bigs that we take a gamble on next to Bam (If they accept a 1 year deal):

Bring Crowder back
Gallinari
Dario Saric
Jerami Grant


Trey Lyles
Christian Wood
Cousins
JaMychal Green
Paul Millsap
Aron Baynes
Derrick Favors
Marc Gasol
Harry Giles
Juan Hernangomez
Frank Kaminsky (not a free agent but would bring the LOLs)

Some of them are done IMO (Millsap, Gasol, Cousins)
Some are totally unproven (Giles, Wood, Lyles)
Some don't really fit next to bam (Favors, Hernangomez)

The top 4 on that list are probably the best options IMO.

I think Dario Saric should be a player we talk about. I do not think there is much difference between him and Gallinari except being in shape. Not sure how Pheonix feels about him or the league. I'm interested in signing Ibaka and Saric together and move on from Olynyk and Leonard. Ibaka, Saric and KZ would be a complete complementary frontcourt to Bam.

Saric issue appears to be keeping shape. Hes a young veteran with playoff experience that still can improve.

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I regard Saric as a slightly better version of Olynyk. He's not a UFA, though. Phoenix reserves the right to bring him back at around a 5 mil qualifying offer.

[Bishop45]

I still like Giles

But we talm bout Cousins still, so F it: FREE JARNELL STOKES

[HeatIn5]

It would be stupid to sign Cousins to anything more than the vet minimum. Our best bet is Ibaka if Riley can convince him to take a pay cut.

Also, look out for Lamarcus Aldridge as a potential buyout candidate late in the season

I think cousins 1 year price would be most of the MLE

[Miami590]

It would be stupid to sign Cousins to anything more than the vet minimum. Our best bet is Ibaka if Riley can convince him to take a pay cut.

Also, look out for Lamarcus Aldridge as a potential buyout candidate late in the season

I think cousins 1 year price would be most of the MLE

Then that would be a terrible signing. The guy can’t even stay on the court and when he’s healthy he’s a liability on defence. We need someone we can count on throughout the season and the playoffs.

[MHeat0279]

On another note, this is too funny
https://heatnation.com/videos/miami-heat-podcast-has-epic-meltdown-proceeds-to-curse-out-lebron-james-after-lakers-win-title/

[dolphinatik]

of the options you mentioned Trey Lyles and Favors would fit best. Lyles is an Al horford type swiss army knife can do many things and almost replicate what Bam can do with less athleticism.

Others that are interesting if we can get cheap:
EMMANUEL MUDIAY
JOSH JACKSON
BRUNO CABOCLO
NOAH VONLEH
Kevin KNox (Knicks want to trade him)
SKAL LABISSIERE
Joe Harris

[greg4012]

We shouldn't be considering signing any big men to pair with Bam that don't have at least a semblance of a 3-ball

[Bishop45]

Cheap replacements likely aren't going to help us get back to the finals, need a trade for a guy like Randle and decent vet signings like DJ Augustine

[Beenie]

Cheap replacements likely aren't going to help us get back to the finals, need a trade for a guy like Randle and decent vet signings like DJ Augustine

Randle has 2 years remaining on his contract. Conventional wisdom suggests that he's not good enough for Mia to surrender their 2021 FA plans for.

His teammate Portis, however, has only 1 year left on his contract. Admittedly, I haven't paid enough attention to Portis to know whether or not he would be an adequate defender for Mia, but his offensive skills are solid enough.

[Bishop45]

Cheap replacements likely aren't going to help us get back to the finals, need a trade for a guy like Randle and decent vet signings like DJ Augustine

Randle has 2 years remaining on his contract. Conventional wisdom suggests that he's not good enough for Mia to surrender their 2021 FA plans for.

His teammate Portis, however, has only 1 year left on his contract. Admittedly, I haven't paid enough attention to Portis to know whether or not he would be an adequate defender for Mia, but his offensive skills are solid enough.

Randle's good and not making an egregrious amount of money, planning for the season after next and not the one in front of us is not the type of cocky move we should be running to make. A lot can change in a yr, and we're not promised anything, best to keep competing