Invictus88 wrote:rmfc wrote:Manocad wrote:You still haven’t defined “whatever they can do to get the #2 pick” is and how getting Anthony Edwards after losing whatever assets it takes to get him is a path to a championship. But at least you named the player; I’ll give you that.
You made the assertion. It’s pretty much understood that “What’s the plan with that pick?” (which pretty much translates to “Who do you prefer and why?”) doesn’t qualify as a “ridiculously stupid” question. It seems the “How does this lead to a championship?” part is what’s bothering you and I don’t see how that’s a ridiculously stupid question either.
I’ll accept the answer “Always get the best player available.” Granted, it’s not a plan for a championship but that’s the answer you gave.
You are correct in thinking this is what made no sense in your question..
“How does this lead to a championship?”
It doesn't make any sense because all you are hoping for is to pick the best player available ..and if possible, trade up to get that one player that you think has great potential. How does that one move translate to winning a championship? And even if that was a possibility, wouldn't you want to grab that player in the draft as quickly as possible?
Nobody is willing to give up something for nothing. Attempting to trade up is usually framed as a team being desperate for a specific player. As such it's more often a losing proposition in terms of value given by the ascending team vs. value received.
We have very little resources to bargain with. So if you are suggesting we potentially overpay and expend those resources we'd better be making significant strides as a franchise as a result.
It's not clear to me that anyone in this draft year will end up accomplishing that. That's the motivation behind the asking of "How does this lead to a championship?" If the answer isn't clear then you probably shouldn't make that move.
So if you are suggesting we potentially overpay and expend those resources we'd better be making significant strides as a franchise as a result.Not sure what overpay means from your perspective. I wouldn't give up next year's first round pick, Wood, Sekou and Rose - only including Rose in this little list because he may get us more value down the road. Everyone else should be expendable in my opinion. For some, even giving up average players with no real future with the Pistons (unless we overpay for the said average players in terms of a new contract) is "overpay". So, again, it's all about perspective.
It's not clear to me that anyone in this draft year will end up accomplishing that. That's the motivation behind the asking of "How does this lead to a championship?" If the answer isn't clear then you probably shouldn't make that move.This again? Was Anthony Davis worth trading up (not comparing AD's potential at draft time vs Anthony Davis' potential here because there was no one even remotely as good as him in this class)? Everyone would say yes to that question. Did he lead the Pels to a championship?
It's obvious that so many other things have to fall in place for a team to win a ring. Why would this one move have to lead the team to a championship? All we should be trying to do is get the best player possible using any movable trade assets. For me (and looking at what most analysts are saying), that player Anthony Edwards in this draft. For others, it may be some other player.
It's probably better to just rephrase the "How does this lead to a championship?" question.