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I would be surprised if anyone really knew what the Knicks are thinking. Leon Rose has been about tight lipped as you can possibly be. My guess is that the Knicks would entertain this really more of as a salary move. I can't see them sending back significant assets (i.e. 8th pick, Barrett, Robinson, etc.) to acquire either guy.
Interest in either guy does make sense IF the goal is to win games. Both these guys, by themselves, can get you wins. CP3 we've talked about but even with folks less receptive about Westbrook, the reality is that outside of guys like Lebron and Harden, the one guy that has shown he can take a bunch of miss-fit role players and win 50+ games consistently it's Westbrook.
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moocow007 wrote:
I would be surprised if anyone really knew what the Knicks are thinking. Leon Rose has been about tight lipped as you can possibly be. My guess is that the Knicks would entertain this really more of as a salary move. I can't see them sending back significant assets (i.e. 8th pick, Barrett, Robinson, etc.) to acquire either guy.
The Thibs rumors kept leaking out for months
So there may be some truth to all the cp3
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Westbrook to the Knicks would be a nightmare. Rose you gotta be better than that man
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moocow007 wrote:
I would be surprised if anyone really knew what the Knicks are thinking. Leon Rose has been about tight lipped as you can possibly be. My guess is that the Knicks would entertain this really more of as a salary move. I can't see them sending back significant assets (i.e. 8th pick, Barrett, Robinson, etc.) to acquire either guy.
Interest in either guy does make sense IF the goal is to win games. Both these guys, by themselves, can get you wins. CP3 we've talked about but even with folks less receptive about Westbrook, the reality is that outside of guys like Lebron and Harden, the one guy that has shown he can take a bunch of miss-fit role players and win 50+ games consistently it's Westbrook.
Right that was prime Westbrook, current Westbrook is on his way to becoming a misfit himself.
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Why would the knicks give up their pick? Like it goes from “this is understandable” to “LolKnicks for Clicks” deal based on him adding the Knicks pick to any deal.
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moocow007 wrote:
I would be surprised if anyone really knew what the Knicks are thinking. Leon Rose has been about tight lipped as you can possibly be. My guess is that the Knicks would entertain this really more of as a salary move. I can't see them sending back significant assets (i.e. 8th pick, Barrett, Robinson, etc.) to acquire either guy.
Interest in either guy does make sense IF the goal is to win games. Both these guys, by themselves, can get you wins. CP3 we've talked about but even with folks less receptive about Westbrook, the reality is that outside of guys like Lebron and Harden, the one guy that has shown he can take a bunch of miss-fit role players and win 50+ games consistently it's Westbrook.
WB is an awful fit to RJ, Mitch, Frank, Randle and DSJr team. We would have to build an entire new core to WB really fit. And his contract is really bad. We need assets to take him.
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Saw from the Hawksguy that Toronto has offered Siakam to Atlanta in hopes of shedding salary in order to make an offer to Giannis
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Juco24 wrote:Saw from the Hawksguy that Toronto has offered Siakam to Atlanta in hopes of shedding salary in order to make an offer to Giannis
I just don’t trust them. No reporter has this information but a anonymous message board poster does?
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Eww, someone said FVV is going to likely get 25~30 Mil/Season.
Do not want at that price tag.
Do not want at that price tag.
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WargamesX wrote:Juco24 wrote:Saw from the Hawksguy that Toronto has offered Siakam to Atlanta in hopes of shedding salary in order to make an offer to Giannis
I just don’t trust them. No reporter has this information but a anonymous message board poster does?
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First time in an NY board thread. A knick fan posted this on the GB -
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1939041
"Prediction: Harden will be a New York Knick next season"
Although there will be plenty of naysayers, I think it's pretty good one... Harden is a player who isn't afraid of the spotlight and would ball out on NY. Not just that. Getting him could help NY entice maybe Bron and AD in 2022/23 to NY. The chance for Bron to have something that would put him over Jordan would be very tempting. I'm sure a few FO and other Knicks org guys lurk here.. maybe kick it up to see how the palm would unfold...
Would be crazy good for NY. No harm in aiming for the stars.
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1939041
"Prediction: Harden will be a New York Knick next season"
Although there will be plenty of naysayers, I think it's pretty good one... Harden is a player who isn't afraid of the spotlight and would ball out on NY. Not just that. Getting him could help NY entice maybe Bron and AD in 2022/23 to NY. The chance for Bron to have something that would put him over Jordan would be very tempting. I'm sure a few FO and other Knicks org guys lurk here.. maybe kick it up to see how the palm would unfold...
Would be crazy good for NY. No harm in aiming for the stars.
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-YogiBiz- wrote:Eww, someone said FVV is going to likely get 25~30 Mil/Season.
Do not want at that price tag.
Who's gonna give that? There's only 5 teams with room I think...
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WHITE_HOT_HEAT wrote:First time in an NY board thread. A knick fan posted this on the GB -
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1939041
"Prediction: Harden will be a New York Knick next season"
Although there will be plenty of naysayers, but I think it's pretty good one... Harden is a player who isn't be afraid of the spotlight and would ball out on NY. Not just that. Getting him could help NY entice maybe Bron and AD in 2022/23 to NY. The chance for Bron to have something that would put him over Jordan would be very tempting. I'm sure a few FO and other Knicks org guys lurk here.. maybe kick it up to see how the palm would unfold...
Would be crazy good for NY. No harm in aiming for the stars.
A.Davis already said he's opting out of his last year option next year and re-signing with the Lakers.
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My wet dream of the year is that we trade for Wiseman, we roll out a modest team to see how the develop after A full year of coaching and end up with the third pick and somehow Dallas struggles because of player health issues, etc and we end up with the third pick. Can you image putting a team on the floor that included Cade, bates, with RJ and wisemen already in the fold
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HEZI wrote:Westbrook to the Knicks would be a nightmare. Rose you gotta be better than that man
But fashion!
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Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
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WHITE_HOT_HEAT wrote:First time in an NY board thread. A knick fan posted this on the GB -
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1939041
"Prediction: Harden will be a New York Knick next season"
Although there will be plenty of naysayers, but I think it's pretty good one... Harden is a player who isn't be afraid of the spotlight and would ball out on NY. Not just that. Getting him could help NY entice maybe Bron and AD in 2022/23 to NY. The chance for Bron to have something that would put him over Jordan would be very tempting. I'm sure a few FO and other Knicks org guys lurk here.. maybe kick it up to see how the palm would unfold...
Would be crazy good for NY. No harm in aiming for the stars.
If I had to pick a guy (that might become available) to bring here via pushing all our chips in, it’s probably Harden. He should age well, he’s a brilliant passer and we desperately need a lead guard.
My assumption would be that Thibodeau wouldn’t let him get away with doing nothing other than dribbling for 20 seconds and getting buckets. My hope would be that we would play him more off the ball so he wouldn’t have to work so hard to get his points.
Anyway, will never happen
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Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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dakomish23 wrote:WHITE_HOT_HEAT wrote:First time in an NY board thread. A knick fan posted this on the GB -
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1939041
"Prediction: Harden will be a New York Knick next season"
Although there will be plenty of naysayers, but I think it's pretty good one... Harden is a player who isn't be afraid of the spotlight and would ball out on NY. Not just that. Getting him could help NY entice maybe Bron and AD in 2022/23 to NY. The chance for Bron to have something that would put him over Jordan would be very tempting. I'm sure a few FO and other Knicks org guys lurk here.. maybe kick it up to see how the palm would unfold...
Would be crazy good for NY. No harm in aiming for the stars.
If I had to pick a guy (that might become available) to bring here via pushing all our chips in, it’s probably Harden. He should age well, he’s a brilliant passer and we desperately need a lead guard.
My assumption would be that Thibodeau wouldn’t let him get away with doing nothing other than dribbling for 20 seconds and getting buckets. My hope would be that we would play him more off the ball so he wouldn’t have to work so hard to get his points.
Anyway, will never happen
What would that deal even look like? Only makes sense to push all our chips into Harden if AD says he'll leave LA to play with Harden in NY?
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-YogiBiz- wrote:dakomish23 wrote:WHITE_HOT_HEAT wrote:First time in an NY board thread. A knick fan posted this on the GB -
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1939041
"Prediction: Harden will be a New York Knick next season"
Although there will be plenty of naysayers, but I think it's pretty good one... Harden is a player who isn't be afraid of the spotlight and would ball out on NY. Not just that. Getting him could help NY entice maybe Bron and AD in 2022/23 to NY. The chance for Bron to have something that would put him over Jordan would be very tempting. I'm sure a few FO and other Knicks org guys lurk here.. maybe kick it up to see how the palm would unfold...
Would be crazy good for NY. No harm in aiming for the stars.
If I had to pick a guy (that might become available) to bring here via pushing all our chips in, it’s probably Harden. He should age well, he’s a brilliant passer and we desperately need a lead guard.
My assumption would be that Thibodeau wouldn’t let him get away with doing nothing other than dribbling for 20 seconds and getting buckets. My hope would be that we would play him more off the ball so he wouldn’t have to work so hard to get his points.
Anyway, will never happen
What would that deal even look like? Only makes sense to push all our chips into Harden if AD says he'll leave LA to play with Harden in NY?
Yup. Throw everything at the Rockets and the NY FO should tamper all they can.. talk directly to Harden.. He'll love it. Just like dakomish said. He's the one guy who'd take on being in NY and love it.
And it's not just AD. It's LeBron you need along with him as the playmaker to facilitate and make life easier for AD and Harden. AD gets a long term deal. LeBron something smaller and trust me.. if anyone else (other than the Lakers) has a chance to entice him it's you guys. From a legacy standpoint, it's a ring with NY that will rally split the basketball world in half on who's the GOAT. Helps if you guys get Bronny
Another poster talked about AD resigning with the Lakers. True. But it's supposed to be a 1+1 or 2+1 or 3+1. The NY FO and agents have to act NOW for getting all three after 2 seasons. Talk to all three so that the deals are structured and the foundation is laid for something like that. That's what organizations with foresight would do..
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