BostonCouchGM wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:Darthlukey wrote:Thing is, of course Brown is available, he is our best trade piece. But he is there to get a better, young piece. Not for a has-been (harden i consider as this, though obviously he is still elite for now) and not for a lateral move just to balance the roster (let's say collins). Simmons, giannis, kat, booker, beal (maybe beal) become available Brown is a good starting point for any of them.
I’m not gonna sit here and go crazy defending harden bc I hated watching him live and worry about Tatums game with him here but he’s far from a has been. He’s about as elite as a scorer the league as ever seen.
His game also doesn’t depend on super athleticism so while he hasn’t ever been greatly conditioned- even a drop off for him should still allow him to score or draw fouls at an elite level allowing him to be an all star at least for 4 more years but more likely all nba at minimum. The playoff drop off is a real concern that’s true.
Everyone one of those guys you mention with the exception of beal - have way way more value than brown and the other teams would ask for Tatum (not happening). The exception being a major major leap from brown next season in which case why would we even trade him?
The appeal of harden is that he’s an older player who most teams can’t trade pieces for and then still have a championship level team.
Brown for a 30 year former mvp who at worst is top 7 right now is a major major victory- on paper
this sub is convinced Jaylen is much much better than he is. He's not a top 40 player but they act as if he's a top 15 and can't conceive of trading him for clearly much better players. Harden would be the 2nd best Celtic player to ever suit up for us. This is just silly. All Harden needs are 3 and D players around him and he's good enough to lead a team to the championship. If it took Brown, a 1st this year and a 1st the following and even another player like Langford or Williams, you have to make that trade. If HOU decides to blow it up and a trade centered around Jaylen gets him here, it's a no brainer. It would likely mean we'd move Kemba to get under the cap but good luck finding anyone that wants him.
Jaylen was a borderline all-star who averaged 22 in the playoffs, he’s definitely a top 40 player.
Houston have had 3&D players with Harden & they can’t make the finals so I don’t get how he’s suddenly good enough to lead a team to a championship ?
Harden is a terrible fit for this team, much rather Brown.