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Re: 2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now 

Post#741 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:50 pm



Article is from when he played fewer than 10 college games. He's 6-11 and doesn't even average 1 block a game.
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Post#742 » by DayofMourning » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:56 pm

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Article is from when he played fewer than 10 college games. He's 6-11 and doesn't even average 1 block a game.


I hope you're not basing your analysis on his blocked shots numbers. Thatd be a pretty shallow argument.

The final major strength of Nnaji is his defensive ability and athleticism. These two traits go hand in hand in Nnaji’s game. Along with this, he is a high motor player who always gives it his all no matter the circumstances. This makes him an animal on defense.


https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2020/05/06/zeke-nnaji-nba-draft-profile/
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now 

Post#743 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:17 am

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Article is from when he played fewer than 10 college games. He's 6-11 and doesn't even average 1 block a game.


I hope you're not basing your analysis on his blocked shots numbers. Thatd be a pretty shallow argument.

The final major strength of Nnaji is his defensive ability and athleticism. These two traits go hand in hand in Nnaji’s game. Along with this, he is a high motor player who always gives it his all no matter the circumstances. This makes him an animal on defense.


https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2020/05/06/zeke-nnaji-nba-draft-profile/


I doubt that he will be much better than Meyers Leonard on defense.
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Post#745 » by DayofMourning » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:30 am

Pulling some random numbers out if the rusted vault of my memory bank, but wasn't Oturu number one in the nation in efficiency in the paint? Also, didn't Nnaji have a ridiculously high free throw attempt rate?
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Post#746 » by radikalBaller » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:48 am

My only concern with Oturu is foot speed guarding the perimiter but sould not be worse than meyers and kelly

For foot speed to back up bam I like Paul reed alot, would not mind trading down to get quickley and reed

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Post#747 » by radikalBaller » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:54 am

DayofMourning wrote:Pulling some random numbers out if the rusted vault of my memory bank, but wasn't Oturu number one in the nation in efficiency in the paint? Also, didn't Nnaji have a ridiculously high free throw attempt rate?


Yeah number 1, also top 5 PER at 30
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Post#748 » by DayofMourning » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:09 am

Fave quote from Riley presser:

“I’m not too concerned about having too many young players today,” Riley said. “They’re better than they were when I was drafted, and they’re more ready to play and perform and if you get lucky with one and you can develop them, they can get out on the court right now and they can help you.
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Post#749 » by twix2500 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:11 am

DayofMourning wrote:Fave quote from Riley presser:

“I’m not too concerned about having too many young players today,” Riley said. “They’re better than they were when I was drafted, and they’re more ready to play and perform and if you get lucky with one and you can develop them, they can get out on the court right now and they can help you.
He also said he is concerned that a rookie will not help this year because of the disruption of Covid on player development

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Post#750 » by Bishop45 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:28 am

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Bishop45 wrote:So far I like Maxey, Terry, Lewis, and I'd take a chance on either of Cassius Stanley, Josh Green, or Nesmith if backed into a corner
I highly doubt Nesmith will be even close to our range. Stanley is a Dorel Wright type of project. What do you like about Green? He seems very average, not great at anything just average all over. He also doesn't fit your mode of player, a ballhandler top of key type guy.

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It's recency bias for sure, cause I haven't had a chance to see him be less than good--was a high school prodigy



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Post#751 » by Bishop45 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:31 am

Wiltside wrote:Still holding out hope for a slider. #20 is a decent change to find one. Someone like Achiuwa, Williams, Bey or Vassell would be perfect, but I think that's a long shot.

Based on Riley's comments, do we see it as more or less likely that we keep this pick? Given we don't have a 2021 FRP, and we're an "every other year draft team", is it likely we keep this year because of the pick owed, or will we view KZ as our FRP for this year?

Hard to tell.

The fact we're looking at Nnaji, Flynn and the like makes me think we may trade back into the 2nd round though. Would be a Heat type move to save some guaranteed salary.


Did you see what Vassell did to his jumpshot? He's a few off workouts from falling hard
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Post#752 » by radikalBaller » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:39 am

I would take saadick Bey and or immanuel Quicky they should be ready toncontribute
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Post#753 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:41 am

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
Article is from when he played fewer than 10 college games. He's 6-11 and doesn't even average 1 block a game.


I hope you're not basing your analysis on his blocked shots numbers. Thatd be a pretty shallow argument.

The final major strength of Nnaji is his defensive ability and athleticism. These two traits go hand in hand in Nnaji’s game. Along with this, he is a high motor player who always gives it his all no matter the circumstances. This makes him an animal on defense.


https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2020/05/06/zeke-nnaji-nba-draft-profile/


I doubt that he will be much better than Meyers Leonard on defense.

He just turned 19. He just might have a little upside and with his natural size could possibly be groomed to do everything we need him to.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now 

Post#754 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:03 am

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Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
I hope you're not basing your analysis on his blocked shots numbers. Thatd be a pretty shallow argument.



https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2020/05/06/zeke-nnaji-nba-draft-profile/


I doubt that he will be much better than Meyers Leonard on defense.

He just turned 19. He just might have a little upside and with his natural size could possibly be groomed to do everything we need him to.


He's also not a good passer. I just doubt we'll draft him since he has multiple glaring weaknesses.
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Post#755 » by twix2500 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:07 am

Read on Twitter


"Heat has worked out Arizona power forward/center Zeke Nnaji on Sunday and interviewed San Diego State point guard Malachi Flynn.
"The Heat also has expressed interest in Alabama’s Kira Lewis Jr., but many project him to be gone by No. 20."
Lewis, a 6-3 point guard who played two years at Alabama, averaged 18.8 points and 5.2 assists and shot 36.6 percent on threes last season."

Kira Lewis is a player I am very high on myself. I share the same opinion that he likely gone before 20. Or at least he should be. This is why I do not care what sites like nbadraft.net say who have him barely a first rounder. They move the players around every week just for clicks and they have no intel to do so.

It will be interesting to hear about the players the Heat have worked out. Work outs seem to be the sign of high interest in the player. How that player looks in the workouts are vital. I am curious how the workouts are put together with the CDC/COVID regulations. In the past the Heat would bring in prospects together and play 3 on 3s. This is what led the Heat to draft Wade, who dominated in the workouts vs other prospects.

What I like about Lewis is his quickness, explosiveness and his first step. He doesnt over dribble to beat his man. The trend for players today have been to stop the ball at the top of the key and make multiple moves in order to beat their man to make a good highlight like Harden. Lewis blows by his man a lot on his first step and finishes in control. I wouldnt mind the Heat moving up in the draft to secure a pick in Kira Lewis. But I highly doubt that would be an option. I actually have Lewis Jr rated highly as I did De'Aaron Fox. I believe Lewis is lottery talent.



Zeke Nnaji, the fact that the Heat physically worked him out means there was serious interest prior to the workout. If there is still interest, that will dependent on the how well he worked out. Nnaji has a lot of natural physical tools, still very raw. Played at a very respected program, so I am sure the Heat felt he got very good coaching and probably good reviews from the coaches.

Malachi Flynn, not sure if they worked him out or just an interview. I do not think this is a guy they have interest at 20. I think this is more of their due diligence if he goes undrafted or the Heat make a trade and get a second rounder.
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Post#756 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:08 am

Wiltside wrote:A guy who I've been doing a little reading/film review on is Desmond Bane.

6'6", 215lbs but has a reported 6'4.5" wingspan. The ol' T-rex, which we seem to have a penchant for (Olynyk, Herro also sport negative wingspans). He has a body shape a little like Malcolm Brogdon, very solidly built and athletic. Not sure if the actual combine measurements are available, anyone have a resource for this?

Averaged 16.6ppg, 6.3rpg, 3.9apg, 1.5spg, 0.5bpg, 2.3tpg in 36.0mpg on 45.2%fg, 44.2% 3fg (2.9 threes made per) and 78.9%ft in his Senior year at TCU.

Stroke looks compact albeit a little unorthodox. Has improved every year at college level and shoots a very high clip on a large amounts of attempts. He can catch and shoot, come off the curl as well as attack the close out and create off the dribble. Looks to be reasonably athletic too. His Senior year was the first year he didn't shoot 50% from the floor, but still had a TS% of 57% (first year below 60% TS%).

Positives:
- NBA ready body and size.
- Can handle and create, assist % increased this year.
- One of the better shooters in the draft (2.9 3's per), but also solid defensively and can attack a close out.

Negatives:
- Small wingspan could limit defensive upside.
- Draft age; he's already 22 years old so upside may be limited.
- Low free throw rate (1.8 FT's in 36mpg). Could be due to the small wingspan and struggling to finish inside.

Projects to be a solid guard at the next level, reasonably versatile and has a quality 3pt stroke that will be what helps him stick. Reminds me a little of a more efficient Josh Hart, or best case would be a more 2 guard version of someone like Brogdon.


Good breakdown, to me he looks like a solid second rounder, #20 seems like a reach for a guy almost Bam's age.

Also I'm not sure we should spend the limited draft picks we have on SG's. PF/C, Maybe PG. With Herro and Jimmy here, think we need to focus on guys that could actually get big minutes if they pan out.
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Post#757 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:33 am

twix2500 wrote:
Read on Twitter


He has worked out Arizona power forward/center Zeke Nnaji on Sunday


Zeke Nnaji, the fact that the Heat physically worked him out means there was serious interest prior to the workout. If there still interest will dependent on the how well he worked out. Nnaji has a lot of natural physical tools, still very raw. Played at a very respected program, so I am sure the Heat felt he got very good coaching and probably good reviews from the coaches.




I would have been excited about Zeke IF we didn't already have Bam. He's mobile, high energy, good touch, can become really good.

But I don't see the point in drafting any bigs that doesn't compliment Bam, no matter the upside.

We can't waste a pick on a guy that at best would play 10 minutes in big games.
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Post#758 » by radikalBaller » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:25 am

My top picks so far:

Kira Lewis
Immanuel Quickley
Saadick Bey
Daniel Oturu if he can pas the foot speed test...

Psul Eboua is my wildcard, check him out
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Post#759 » by DayofMourning » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:01 pm

radikalBaller wrote:My top picks so far:

Kira Lewis
Immanuel Quickley
Saadick Bey
Daniel Oturu if he can pas the foot speed test...


I've narrowed down my list to:

Jalen Smith
Daniel Oturu
Zeke Nnaji
Reggie Perry
Immanuel Quickley
Tyrese Maxey
Tyrell Terry
Tre Jones
Vernon Carey Jr
Malachi Flynn
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Post#760 » by twix2500 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:29 pm

My list at 20 is for someone to fall and then pick the best of this group that are available.

Achiuwa
Cole Anthony
McDaniels
Lewis Jr
Mannion
Oturu
Maxey


Other players I am interested in later.

Grant Riller (would be interested at 20 dependent on how a private workout looks)
Jordan Nwora
Leandro Bolmaro
Udoka Azubuike
Cassius Winston
Payton Pritchard

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