2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

[wco81]

The one thing that stuck out to me from that pro day tape is that Edwards has a very bad habit of bringing the ball back down below his waist on his jumper, which is going to be very hard to break. It's going to be tough for him to be consistent and take too long to get his shots off until he fixes that.
The top part of his shot is actually pretty good mechanically, elbow and wrist are straight, angle is good, and uses the right amount of wrist versus pushing the ball with the arm. His touch is average though.
It's going to be a real struggle for him to ever hit 35% from deep.
He does have excellent strength in his lower body and should be able to finish at an above average level.
Is the athleticism going to play against NBA level athletes?

I still prefer Wiseman, but I like him better than Ball.
If we end up with him in a trade down it wouldnt be the end of the world.

I was listening to Darren Wolfson’s recent pod with Babcock and Windhorst and they made it sound like Wiseman and his camp aren’t interested in interacting with Minnesota due to KAT being here.

That's an absolute non-factor for me. It's understandable, both GS and Charlotte are much better situations for him. We have to take the top talent regardless, and that pro day tape solidified for me that Wiseman is head and shoulders above the rest. All we got with Lamelo was a sit down interview anyway. Curry wouldnt work out here either and we ended up with Jonny Flynn.

I'm of the opinion that we need to start looking down the road past KAT. All of the early warning signs are there, this is going to turn into another Kevin Love situation, probably whether we win or not.

KAT has 4 years left on his deal, including this upcoming season. So at age 28 to 29, he could be eligible for super max.

If the Wolves draft Wiseman, he will also be coming off his rookie contract around the same time.

Question is will they be able to give Wiseman enough minutes to see if he can replace KAT in case he walks when he's a UFA?

One of them would have to play the 4 so that both of them would be on the floor at the same time for Wiseman to get about 30 minutes a game, to see what he would do as a full time starter.

[Mattya]

Wiseman is not like Embiid. He has shown none of the post game Embiid did as a raw player at Kansas. I still like Wiseman, but I think bigger, less skilled Chris Bosh. The potential is there tho.

[Mattya]

I’m hoping Rosas can work his magic to get extra future draft assets and clear the roster glut at the end of the bench and clear salary in a move down to get Haliburton or Avdija.

[Little Digger]

I'll just go on record now that I'm for Okoro. Give me a dogged defender with high BBIQ that can guard 1-4. If we can pick up future picks or vets on the way to a spot where its "acceptable" to draft him even better.

Okoro’s #1 on my Big board..He’s easily the most versatile , athletic rugged defender in this draft ..He’s also a very smart player with incredible competitive desire..He reminds me so much of Iguodala and Jimmy Buckets..I even think his shot can be easily fixed over his first couple seasons..

In my opinion he’s the best player and the best fit for Minnesota and GSW

[UnFadeable21]

I see Wiseman as more Deandre Jordan than Embiid.

[CptCrunch]

The problem with Embiid/Towns/Davis is that despite how good they at being the top 5% at their position, they don't carry teams like a top 5% wing. Hell, even a top 20-25% percent wing like Domi or Murray carry harder than them in the playoff.

The current era just isn't kind to bigs. This is all ignoring the fact that Wiseman as a prospect doesn't touch of the 3 mentioned above.

Embiid - 'successor' to the Dream, but what has he won in the league?

Towns - best offensive split in the league possibly, out of all positions. Still loses year after year.

Davis - legit MVP candidate while leading the Pelicans to half a decade of losing. Only won with Le "#2 all time" Bron.

This is why I'm kinda sour on Wiseman. His best case isn't as valuable as a best case for Edwards, who I also hate as a prospect. Ball is another fail with rock bottom IQ. At this point, we are thinking about drafting mystery man from Israel or Obi "No Wingspan" Toppin from Dayton.

/fml fail draft

[Midw35t]

https://youtu.be/OT700wN1j08?list=PLcvWWzUR7OwZcgTTI99F28baWTxlYJEKI

[KGdaBom]

I see Wiseman as more Deandre Jordan than Embiid.

More Bosh by far than Deandre Jordan.

[KGdaBom]

The problem with Embiid/Towns/Davis is that despite how good they at being the top 5% at their position, they don't carry teams like a top 5% wing. Hell, even a top 20-25% percent wing like Domi or Murray carry harder than them in the playoff.

The current era just isn't kind to bigs. This is all ignoring the fact that Wiseman as a prospect doesn't touch of the 3 mentioned above.

Embiid - 'successor' to the Dream, but what has he won in the league?

Towns - best offensive split in the league possibly, out of all positions. Still loses year after year.

Davis - legit MVP candidate while leading the Pelicans to half a decade of losing. Only won with Le "#2 all time" Bron.

This is why I'm kinda sour on Wiseman. His best case isn't as valuable as a best case for Edwards, who I also hate as a prospect. Ball is another fail with rock bottom IQ. At this point, we are thinking about drafting mystery man from Israel or Obi "No Wingspan" Toppin from Dayton.

/fml fail draft

Big or small doesn't matter much. It's how good the player is. Now if you're both big and good that's better than smaller and good.

[Battletrigger]

I think that if we trade down we are going to pick Haliburton, it's reported that Wolves have met with him several times.

If we don't trade down, I will pick Edward's 24/7 before a guy who only played 3 games and the other one that escaped to a one man grown league.

[amcoolio]

The problem with Embiid/Towns/Davis is that despite how good they at being the top 5% at their position, they don't carry teams like a top 5% wing. Hell, even a top 20-25% percent wing like Domi or Murray carry harder than them in the playoff.

The current era just isn't kind to bigs. This is all ignoring the fact that Wiseman as a prospect doesn't touch of the 3 mentioned above.

Embiid - 'successor' to the Dream, but what has he won in the league?

Towns - best offensive split in the league possibly, out of all positions. Still loses year after year.

Davis - legit MVP candidate while leading the Pelicans to half a decade of losing. Only won with Le "#2 all time" Bron.

This is why I'm kinda sour on Wiseman. His best case isn't as valuable as a best case for Edwards, who I also hate as a prospect. Ball is another fail with rock bottom IQ. At this point, we are thinking about drafting mystery man from Israel or Obi "No Wingspan" Toppin from Dayton.

/fml fail draft

I dislike Ball/Edwards/Wiseman as prospects for Charlotte too. Maybe all three fall and people are just wrong on who the top 3 prospects in the draft are. Wiseman can't create offense and can't guard out on the perimeter so why would someone take him top 5? Ball isn't a leader and doesn't appear to like basketball and Edwards is a carbon copy of Tyreke Evans. I think Hayes, Halliburton, Okongwu, and Avdija make a ton of sense for all 3 teams drafting in the top 3.

[Jedzz]

I see Wiseman as more Deandre Jordan than Embiid.

There are lot of possibilities with Wiseman, at least how he's been presented. I think those claiming he's like any current centers might be limiting his wider options. But that doesn't mean they won't end up right or at least right that his value doesn't end up being even at these others' level which still hasn't added up to much. Then you have freaks like Giannis that very much do impact the league more.

Someone whose impact on the league has surprised me by being so minor since his draft has been Mo Bamba. I thought he would end up being more sooner. I guess an injury slowed it, but still.
Giannis on Mo Bamba

[Neeva]

The problem with Embiid/Towns/Davis is that despite how good they at being the top 5% at their position, they don't carry teams like a top 5% wing. Hell, even a top 20-25% percent wing like Domi or Murray carry harder than them in the playoff.

The current era just isn't kind to bigs. This is all ignoring the fact that Wiseman as a prospect doesn't touch of the 3 mentioned above.

Embiid - 'successor' to the Dream, but what has he won in the league?

Towns - best offensive split in the league possibly, out of all positions. Still loses year after year.

Davis - legit MVP candidate while leading the Pelicans to half a decade of losing. Only won with Le "#2 all time" Bron.

This is why I'm kinda sour on Wiseman. His best case isn't as valuable as a best case for Edwards, who I also hate as a prospect. Ball is another fail with rock bottom IQ. At this point, we are thinking about drafting mystery man from Israel or Obi "No Wingspan" Toppin from Dayton.

/fml fail draft

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I dislike Ball/Edwards/Wiseman as prospects for Charlotte too. Maybe all three fall and people are just wrong on who the top 3 prospects in the draft are. Wiseman can't create offense and can't guard out on the perimeter so why would someone take him top 5? Ball isn't a leader and doesn't appear to like basketball and Edwards is a carbon copy of Tyreke Evans. I think Hayes, Halliburton, Okongwu, and Avdija make a ton of sense for all 3 teams drafting in the top 3.

Edwards is much more athletic and explosive than Tyreke Evans ever was. At this point it’s crazy how overated Hayes, Haliburton and Avdija are getting. They won’t be stars just good roleplayers. Some of the players slated to go in the teens will end up better than those three.

[Jedzz]

Edwards is much more athletic and explosive than Tyreke Evans ever was. At this point it’s crazy how overated Hayes, Haliburton and Avdija are getting. They won’t be stars just good roleplayers. Some of the players slated to go in the teens will end up better than those three.

Tell me what Lemonjello does better than Haliburton that makes Jello a #1 option and Halibut just an ugly fish to you.


Have you seen Haliburton play? Granted your post doesn't mention melloyellow but obviously other people have him as a #1 option. So think about comparing the two players for a second.

[thinktank]

Edwards is much more athletic and explosive than Tyreke Evans ever was. At this point it’s crazy how overated Hayes, Haliburton and Avdija are getting. They won’t be stars just good roleplayers. Some of the players slated to go in the teens will end up better than those three.

Saddiq Bey.

[Jedzz]

Wolves draft Saddiq Bey #1 overall and the fake crowd audio goes quiet at the bubble draft.

What is your first reaction?

Mine, "interesting move!"

[Norseman79]

Does anyone know the site where they are recording combine info? I tried finding collected results and am getting random but no official

[Neeva]

I want the wolves to get another second round pick so they can end up with two of Reggie Perry, Paul Reed, Robert Woodard and Oturu.

Perry is my preference for 33 right now. He was MVP of the USA u-19 team over Kira Lewis jr, Haliburton, Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Jalen Green, Jalen Suggs etc all lottery picks in 2020 or 2021. Perry will be an absolute steal in the second round.

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[minimus]

I want the wolves to get another second round pick so they can end up with two of Reggie Perry, Paul Reed, Robert Woodard and Oturu.

Perry is my preference for 33 right now. He was MVP of the USA u-19 team over Kira Lewis jr, Haliburton, Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, Jalen Green, Jalen Suggs etc all lottery picks in 2020 or 2021. Perry will be an absolute steal in the second round.

Watch on YouTube

PHI have two SRPs: #34 and #36, CHA have #32

[Worm Guts]

I don't know that we can realistically use more picks. Three rookies is probably going to be enough.