Ben Simmons for the No. 1 Pick?

[Jedzz]

Wolves would have to give up literally everything outside of KAT and DLO to even have a shot at Simmons lol

[Jedzz]

Still unlikely, but maybe Morey goes after Harden, assuming. Houston rebuilds.

Potential three-team trade:
- Philadelphia trades Simmons for Harden
- Minnesota receives Simmons for 2020 Minnesota first round pick (1), 2020 Brooklyn pick (17) and 2023 Minnesota first round pick (lottery protected)
- Houston trades Harden for 2020 Minnesota first round pick (1), 2020 Brooklyn pick (17) and 2023 Minnesota first round pick (lottery protected)

Someone else can build upon this to match salaries...

I would rather just get Harden here to play Rosas' Houston North with Dlo/Harden/Kat.
But if we are going after Simmons, just deal for him and let them use the assets to go after Harden in time.

I wouldn't be overpaying for Simmons. Not with Philly financially pressed with nonfit issues, and Simmons coming off back and knee injuries this very season.

[Dewey]

I’m coming around on a “Simmons <> #1” deal ... clean, simple, and I think he’d be compatible with DLo and Towns ... add a starting forward and go...

Draft or move the #17/player for a starting forward.

[SubZero]

This is the dream scenario, but it'll need to be a 3 team deal for it to even have legs, & even then it's a pipe a dream

[Merc_Porto]

This would be sweet. But with Simmons we need the other 4 guys to be able to shoot.

Im thinking of Joe Harris.

[Jedzz]

Supposedly he's already been in the gym after his knee surgery in the fall.

A bit on those expectations and injury details from Sporting News.

"A subluxation meant the patella went partially out of the groove and went back in on its own, which is different than a dislocation, where the patella goes completely out of the groove and has to be pushed back in. A patella subluxation or dislocation almost always results in an injury to the MPFL. The majority of the time, the MPFL scars-in adequately to the point that recurrent instability does not occur."

On the rehabilitation process

"Rehab after an instability episode typically involves restoring knee range of motion and strengthening of the quadriceps muscles. While not typically the case in NBA players, in some patients, the scar tissue and rehab do not stabilize the patella and recurrent instability can ensue, which then requires surgical reconstruction."

What is a 'loose body'? And what will the procedure entail?

"Unfortunately, in Simmons' case, the patella subluxation was forceful enough that a piece of cartilage – with or without bone – was knocked off and needs to be removed. The arthroscopic loose body removal procedure is an outpatient procedure, after which he will most likely be able to weight bear right away with gradual increase in activity."

"This is, of course, unless his doctors find additional damage that needs to be addressed during surgery. Recovery is usually in the four-to-six week range. He would be expected to have a very good short-term recovery."

Is there cause for bigger picture concern?

"The biggest question mark is what will be the long-term consequences of the injury to the joint cartilage? If the loose body is small, then there may be minimal long-term consequences but if the loose body is large, then it may have a greater impact. His game is so dependent on his athleticism and he will need to have his explosiveness and agility for the long-term."

[IceManBK1]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-daryl-morey-press-conference-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-doc-rivers-76ers-roster/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjLrPP9pOXsAhW8knIEHcE7DBoQyM8BCEQwBA&usg=AOvVaw1CWyyeGmXNhuiqnJx9b_FG&ampcf=1

Sounds like they prefer embiid over simmons

[Baseline81]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-daryl-morey-press-conference-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-doc-rivers-76ers-roster/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjLrPP9pOXsAhW8knIEHcE7DBoQyM8BCEQwBA&usg=AOvVaw1CWyyeGmXNhuiqnJx9b_FG&ampcf=1

Sounds like they prefer embiid over simmons

Does seem that way from the article.

I doubt moving Simmons happens this offseason, however, depending on how the 76ers are playing, he could be traded as early as the trade deadline.

[Jedzz]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-daryl-morey-press-conference-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-doc-rivers-76ers-roster/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjLrPP9pOXsAhW8knIEHcE7DBoQyM8BCEQwBA&usg=AOvVaw1CWyyeGmXNhuiqnJx9b_FG&ampcf=1

Sounds like they prefer embiid over simmons

It's funny now to read Morey quoted saying, "Joel is a dominant, dominant big man. I’m excited to get back to that."

Why did he choose to go so far away from that?

[Jedzz]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-daryl-morey-press-conference-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-doc-rivers-76ers-roster/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjLrPP9pOXsAhW8knIEHcE7DBoQyM8BCEQwBA&usg=AOvVaw1CWyyeGmXNhuiqnJx9b_FG&ampcf=1

Sounds like they prefer embiid over simmons

Does seem that way from the article.

I doubt moving Simmons happens this offseason, however, depending on how the 76ers are playing, he could be traded as early as the trade deadline.

GSW at trade deadline if his knee turns out to be fine?

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[Dewey]

[gfycat][/gfycat]3-way ... Beal rumors will remain and the Beard talk is gonna hang around too. With fillers aside, either of these two scenarios have a blindman's shot? I added Richardson to either since both All-Star SG's coming in return. Really hard to make these fair for all teams.

MN ... #1/Johnson to Washington
Washington ... Beal to Philly
Philly ... Simmons to MN, Richardson to Washington

MN ... #1/Johnson to Houston
Houston ... Harden to Philly
Philly ... Simmons to MN, Richardson to Houston

[IceManBK1]

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Maybe we can get involved somehow... #1+Hartford to Houston. Simmons to Minnesota, Harden to Philly. We would have to ship out players to match salaries.

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Maybe we can get involved somehow... #1+Hartford to Houston. Simmons to Minnesota, Harden to Philly. We would have to ship out players to match salaries.

Why settle for that? Why not send the #1+Horford to the Lakers. Lebron to Minnesota, Davis to Philly. I mean if what Houston and Harden wants doesn't matter then what the Lakers and Lebron/Davis want doesnt matter either. Of course Houston and Lakers would throw away their best players for #1 + Horford (a consistent high level...role player)! What have we all been waiting around for? Get this done!

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Let Houston rebuild, it's a wrap with GS coming back healthy & Lakers are probably going to have quality guys flock there after their championship.

3 team;

-Philly gets Harden
-Houston Gets #1, Culver, Thybulle, financial Filler
-Minny Gets Simmons

Houston needs to have a trade ready for Westbrook outta there, but his contract is looking nasty. Houston also gets to build around a #1 pick, future all NBA D player in Thybulle, a rookie that still has promise in Culver and financial filler that'll come off the books (Johnson?)

Philly gets their peace to run the east. Harden + Embiid would be a FILTHY combo in the east.

Minny gets Simmons who would be such a monster fit with DLO/Beasley/KAT ..Simmons also can get the best 1-4 matchup with his monster defensive ability.

I can realistically see this trade happening, no way Houston pairs up Simmons with Westbrook & no way they rebuild around Ben Simmons, I think they clean house and go fully young/rebuild.

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Let Houston rebuild, it's a wrap with GS coming back healthy & Lakers are probably going to have quality guys flock there after their championship.

3 team;

-Philly gets Harden
-Houston Gets #1, Culver, Thybulle, financial Filler
-Minny Gets Simmons

Houston needs to have a trade ready for Westbrook outta there, but his contract is looking nasty. Houston also gets to build around a #1 pick, future all NBA D player in Thybulle, a rookie that still has promise in Culver and financial filler that'll come off the books (Johnson?)

Philly gets their peace to run the east. Harden + Embiid would be a FILTHY combo in the east.

Minny gets Simmons who would be such a monster fit with DLO/Beasley/KAT ..Simmons also can get the best 1-4 matchup with his monster defensive ability.

I can realistically see this trade happening, no way Houston pairs up Simmons with Westbrook & no way they rebuild around Ben Simmons, I think they clean house and go fully young/rebuild.

They can flip Westbrook to the knicks for their 8th pick by just absorbing him into cap space.

[UnFadeable21]

Which team says no?

Minnesota Timberwolves get Ben Simmons & 25th pick

Philadelphia Sixers: Chris Paul, 2020 No. 1 Overall Draft Pick & 2023 Wolves unprotected 1st

OKC Thunder: 2020 17th pick, Jarrett Culver, Josh Richardson, Expiring James Johnson, Omari Spellman, & Jacob Evans.


Why Philly does it?

Cp3 & Joel Embiid become unstoppable pick and roll. Chris Paul has experience playing with two bigs so he can make Horford and Embiid work. He played with Deandre Jordan & Blake Griffin in LA. He also played with David West and Tyson Chandler in New Orleans. He rejoins Doc Rivers & Daryl Morey. They also receive the Wolves 2020 1st overall pick and unprotected 2023 1st round pick.

Minnesota gets their big 3 in KAT, DLo, and Ben Simmons. Simmons can’t shoot but he was All NBA & All NBA Defensive team. Wolves receive the OKC 25th pick.

Oklahoma get two young players in Jarrett Culver & Josh Richardson to build their young core. They also receive 3 expiring contracts in James Johnson, Omari Spellman, and Jacob Evans. That’s $20 million expiring so it doesn’t hurt their caps space and salary books moving forward. They also get the Wolves Brooklyn pick 17 for helping facilitate the trade.

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If you’re interested in this topic, be sure to catch Dane’s podcast.

https://danenbapodcast.libsyn.com/hypothetical-ben-simmons-to-the-timberwolves-trades-with-jack-borman

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