Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

[3ballbomber]

NEXT LEVEL CHIT

https://streamable.com/03yjht

doesn't look like he's just expanding his range....he's also working on handles & footwork to help create space. These are guard drills. Great sign his working on getting to that next level.

What caught my attention in the presser was Riles sending a clear msg to Bam that he must evolve his game further. I have no doubt in my mind the process has already begun.

“He’s a multi-faceted player right now and his game needs to expand, And it will expand because he is a player that’s willing to work at it."

[DayofMourning]

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Bring him home to the paradise city where the chips are gold and the team is gritty.

[twix2500]

two possible NBA start ups

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[Wiltside]

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Bring him home to the paradise city where the chips are gold and the team is gritty.

Not that I necessarily believe this journo has inside scoop, but is a bird in the hand better than two in the bush?

By that I mean, would trading for and extending Giannis and Bam now be better than gambling we can sign him next offseason? I know Rex will have his thoughts on this (and I'm pretty sure I know what he'd say), but would a deal around:

Tyler Herro
Kelly Olynyk
Andre Igoudala
Pick 20
2 x future FRP's with low protections

Be enough to satisfy Milwaukee THIS offseason for a deal, theoretically?

Would suck to part with Herro and the picks, but it does secure you the guy. Lakers did it with AD and that worked out pretty well for them (they traded Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, plus the following picks):

#4 pick in 2019
Top-8 protected in 2021, becomes unprotected in ‘22
Unprotected swap rights in ‘23
Unprotected first in ‘24
Unprotected swap rights in ‘25

Would then be on Riles to go vet shopping and find the right pieces to help us now.

I don't see any package we can do that doesn't include Herro though, sadly. He'd be the hometown kid in Milwaukee.

[DayofMourning]

I'd rather just hold on to Herro, Wilt. I think the kids going to be real good. He doesn't shrink in the moment. One year away.

Milwaukee has the final say though. The Warriors can offer the number 2 pick AND Minnesotas 2021 pick. Thats a pretty impressive haul considering the 2021 draft is excellent at the top. Milwaukee could draft Wiseman and then get Cunningham and Mobley or whoever else they like next year. Thats a nice rebuild. Our package can't trump that IMO.

[Wiltside]

I'd rather just hold on to Herro, Wilt. I think the kids going to be real good. He doesn't shrink in the moment. One year away.

Milwaukee has the final say though. The Warriors can offer the number 2 pick AND Minnesotas 2021 pick. Thats a pretty impressive haul considering the 2021 draft is excellent at the top. Milwaukee could draft Wiseman and then get Cunningham and Mobley or whoever else they like next year. Thats a nice rebuild. Our package can't trump that IMO.

And then it comes down to whether we risk Giannis going to GSW, winning a title and going 'actually I'll stay, this was fun', or whether he wouldn't actually sign long-term there. Hell of a gamble.

I love Herro's game, I think he's going to be a perennial 20ppg guy given his ability to score anywhere on the floor, plus get to the line....but Giannis is a b2b 2xMVP and reigning DPOY...

I'd love to have my cake and eat it too, and that may actually eventuate, but it IS a huge gamble if Milwaukee was willing to accept an offer like that and we say 'no'.

[DayofMourning]

I'd rather just hold on to Herro, Wilt. I think the kids going to be real good. He doesn't shrink in the moment. One year away.

Milwaukee has the final say though. The Warriors can offer the number 2 pick AND Minnesotas 2021 pick. Thats a pretty impressive haul considering the 2021 draft is excellent at the top. Milwaukee could draft Wiseman and then get Cunningham and Mobley or whoever else they like next year. Thats a nice rebuild. Our package can't trump that IMO.

And then it comes down to whether we risk Giannis going to GSW, winning a title and going 'actually I'll stay, this was fun', or whether he wouldn't actually sign long-term there. Hell of a gamble.

I love Herro's game, I think he's going to be a perennial 20ppg guy given his ability to score anywhere on the floor, plus get to the line....but Giannis is a b2b 2xMVP and reigning DPOY...

I'd love to have my cake and eat it too, and that may actually eventuate, but it IS a huge gamble if Milwaukee was willing to accept an offer like that and we say 'no'.

I don't think we can beat out GSW any way you slice the cake. Herro isn't THAT good yet. I think GSW would be willing to offer ALL the picks they could trade and that's just too rich for us to beat out.

[Wiltside]

I'd rather just hold on to Herro, Wilt. I think the kids going to be real good. He doesn't shrink in the moment. One year away.

Milwaukee has the final say though. The Warriors can offer the number 2 pick AND Minnesotas 2021 pick. Thats a pretty impressive haul considering the 2021 draft is excellent at the top. Milwaukee could draft Wiseman and then get Cunningham and Mobley or whoever else they like next year. Thats a nice rebuild. Our package can't trump that IMO.

And then it comes down to whether we risk Giannis going to GSW, winning a title and going 'actually I'll stay, this was fun', or whether he wouldn't actually sign long-term there. Hell of a gamble.

I love Herro's game, I think he's going to be a perennial 20ppg guy given his ability to score anywhere on the floor, plus get to the line....but Giannis is a b2b 2xMVP and reigning DPOY...

I'd love to have my cake and eat it too, and that may actually eventuate, but it IS a huge gamble if Milwaukee was willing to accept an offer like that and we say 'no'.

I don't think we can beat out GSW any way you slice the cake. Herro isn't THAT good yet. I think GSW would be willing to offer ALL the picks they could trade and that's just too rich for us to beat out.

I dunno, after the postszn he just had and the salary he's on, I wouldn't trade him for #1 in this draft class if I'm honest.

[HeatingUp3]

If we let the Warriors to get Giannis its OVER. If he wants out we need to make that move. Herro gonna be good AF but its a 2 time MVP. I'll make a trade if Giannis commited to sign long term deal.

[DayofMourning]

I dunno, after the postszn he just had and the salary he's on, I wouldn't trade him for #1 in this draft class if I'm honest.

Another reason for Miami to keep him and wait one year. They will offer him up if they can get Giannis, but once again, the ball is in Milwaukee's court.

Tyler Herro plus Nunn plus 20th pick plus some pick in 2026, or Wiseman plus Cade Cunningham (they will have two shots at him) plus GSW unprotected lottery picks when their stars are past their prime and in decline. I believe GSW would spend that to get Giannis for one year only. He fits that team so well right now.

[3ballbomber]

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Bring him home to the paradise city where the chips are gold and the team is gritty.

She's copping some major disrespect from this tweet. Prob Bucks Fans losing their minds

[DayofMourning]

Never heard of Ashley Nicole, 3bb. She's trying to make her name on this rumor. She had to be ready for the onslaught before dropping that kind of tweet.

[HeatIn5]

Should we hire Ashley Nicole to replace Dan Craig?

[Beenie]

Never heard of Ashley Nicole, 3bb. She's trying to make her name on this rumor. She had to be ready for the onslaught before dropping that kind of tweet.

I've never heard of her either.

Interesting though that Five Reasons Sports defended her.

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[3ballbomber]

Never heard of Ashley Nicole, 3bb. She's trying to make her name on this rumor. She had to be ready for the onslaught before dropping that kind of tweet.

same. she's hot tho

[HeatingUp3]

Holly Damn

[RexBoyWonder]

We putting our hopes on Instagram models now?

What is this world coming to...

[greg4012]

I'd rather just hold on to Herro, Wilt. I think the kids going to be real good. He doesn't shrink in the moment. One year away.

Milwaukee has the final say though. The Warriors can offer the number 2 pick AND Minnesotas 2021 pick. Thats a pretty impressive haul considering the 2021 draft is excellent at the top. Milwaukee could draft Wiseman and then get Cunningham and Mobley or whoever else they like next year. Thats a nice rebuild. Our package can't trump that IMO.

Can the #2 pick this year be considered more valuable than Herro right now? I think the league would respond to that question with a resounding no

[AirP.]

I'd rather just hold on to Herro, Wilt. I think the kids going to be real good. He doesn't shrink in the moment. One year away.

Milwaukee has the final say though. The Warriors can offer the number 2 pick AND Minnesotas 2021 pick. Thats a pretty impressive haul considering the 2021 draft is excellent at the top. Milwaukee could draft Wiseman and then get Cunningham and Mobley or whoever else they like next year. Thats a nice rebuild. Our package can't trump that IMO.

Can the #2 pick this year be considered more valuable than Herro right now? I think the league would respond to that question with a resounding no

Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo said in a recent podcast that knowing what Herro can do now they'd take him over anyone else in this current draft, especially with him being way more proven then anyone in the draft.

Now... even though Herro can be a difference maker on offense and seems to rebound well for a guard, you shouldn't ever say no to moving a young player for a top tier player who you can expect 5+ incredible seasons with to pair up with Bam and Butler(depending on when he'll retire).

Now take in consideration AD may be in the way of a championship for a couple more years with LeBron, if you don't have a guy who can make AD work and has size then maybe the rest of your team doesn't really matter? You go after Giannis every day of the week to team up with Bam and Butler. Giannis isn't good enough to be the main guy in tight games... yet, but he's good enough to be dominate the first 3 1/2 quarters of a playoffs game. Also... Giannis being able to carry the load for 3 1/2 quarters could extend Butler's 4th quarter antics a few more years.

[eddieheatfan]

We putting our hopes on Instagram models now?

What is this world coming to...