2020 Pre-Draft Discussion

amcoolio · Post #1661 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 2:48 am

316Hornets wrote:Pistons gone on record that they want to move up to get Ball. Big thing will be what the Warriors want to do.

Assuming Twolves go Edwards, Warriors select Wiseman/Deni, we'll be sitting at 3 with a whole lot of leverage. I just hope that if someone gives us a big offer, we have the patience to give up this pick.

I think at 7 I would be confident that one of Okongwu, Hayes, Halliburton, or Terry will be there and all would be great picks if we got something good to go with it

driveandkick · Post #1662 » by **driveandkick** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 4:21 am

316Hornets wrote:Pistons gone on record that they want to move up to get Ball. Big thing will be what the Warriors want to do.

Assuming Twolves go Edwards, Warriors select Wiseman/Deni, we'll be sitting at 3 with a whole lot of leverage. I just hope that if someone gives us a big offer, we have the patience to give up this pick.

I wonder what the Pistons would be willing to give up. That roster is brutal

amcoolio · Post #1663 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:38 am

Sekou or Kennard and a future pick I would take to move back to 7

Snidely FC · Post #1664 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:06 pm

Svi Mykhailiuk had a sneaky good yr in DET is 23 yo 6’7 shot 40% from 3 and 85% ft an asset to target in trade down with DET

Post #1665 » by **Diop** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:27 pm

I've always loved shooting and would love to draft a pure shooter for once. So these intrigued me:

Read on Twitter

Nwora an unathletic 6'7 forward seems to really able to shoot the rock. Could he be a Duncan Robinson type?
he's likely a 2nd round pick

Also, surely Wesson is going to be drafted as a 6'9 centre who can shoot 3's.

DY_nasty · Post #1666 » by **DY_nasty** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:35 pm

pls god let us fleece detroit

James Gatz · Post #1667 » by **James Gatz** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 1:32 pm

7 + future 1st that has a chance of conveying either next year or 2022 would be a big win for me. I don't really see the use in Kennard. He's a good player but I really think we need one more of rebuilding to find a star in 2021. Luke will help us stay in that 8-12 range. Sekou looked really bad last year but he still has some upside probably.

Teal25 · Post #1668 » by **Teal25** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:04 pm

My pick is Hayes. The big 3 has turned me off especially Ball. If we can walk away with Hayes + a future light protected likely lotto pick from Detroit or NY in a good draft I would do it in a heartbeat. I think Min takes Edwards #1. If I were the Warriors I would do 2 and Wiggins for Turner and Warren. I can’t see GSW and IND selecting Lamelo

Rich4114 · Post #1669 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 7:58 pm

I'd happily trade with Detroit if Wiseman and Edwards go top two.

JMAC3 · Post #1670 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 8:24 pm

I would probably pass on a trade back because I view this a 4 player tier at the top. I understand that a future first from Pistons could be great but that delays our timeline another year potentially and our young core is older.

Also let’s assume Detroit in mediocre again. The deal would probably turn out to be 3 for 7 and 9? It’s decent value but star power matters too much in this league. After complaining about never getting a top pick I am not super fond of passing on this gift of an opportunity.

Rays Pompadour · Post #1671 » by **Rays Pompadour** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 9:26 pm

Diop wrote:I've always loved shooting and would love to draft a pure shooter for once. So these intrigued me:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Nwora an unathletic 6'7 forward seems to really able to shoot the rock. Could he be a Duncan Robinson type?
he's likely a 2nd round pick

Also, surely Wesson is going to be drafted as a 6'9 centre who can shoot 3's.

Really like Nwora. I enjoyed watching him play in the ACC this past season. He was supposed to be the Alpha on that Louisville team, but just never took over like he should have. Great balance of skills and experience with, in my opinion, NBA level athleticism to guard 2's and 3's on the wing.

Also, note that the player I have high regard for is on the lists above - Cassius Winston. That dude can run a club. Seriously.

James Gatz · Post #1672 » by **James Gatz** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 10:10 pm

Winston is the most likely Devonte guy in this draft. I really love watching him play and think he'll have a long career as a solid backup.

CuseMayne · Post #1673 » by **CuseMayne** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 10:43 pm

Yeah, I'd value Svi over Kennard or Sekou. I'd definitely value a future 1st over any of the players that Detroit could offer us. However, I'd still definitely prefer if we stay at 3/give up something moderate in order to secure Wiseman.

Post #1674 » by **Diop** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 11:32 pm

If we could get Hayes and a future first, I’d be over the moon.

Rays Pompadour · Post #1675 » by **Rays Pompadour** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 5:54 pm

The latest has GS going with Edwards at #2 if he's there, which assumes Wiseman goes #1. If this is how it shakes out (which is doubtful given that both GS and Minny want to trade down), then Charlotte is left to make a deal with someone wanting Ball or just go ahead and draft.

Consider these recent reports: Minny and GS both professing a desire to trade down; Boston and Detroit expressing a desire to trade up; GS will draft Edwards #2 if he's there; Ball's interviews are terrible and he's dropping down draft boards; Wiseman doesn't want Minny to draft him - doesn't see a fit next to KAT; Charlotte targeting a big man at #3 and may trade up to #1 to get Wiseman, but also really likes Okongwu.

I like Charlotte's leverage here for whatever they want to do. If they do trade up, it'll be for a less-than-#1 package. But the best scenario for them may be for Minny and GS to stay in their slot and draft. That, in my opinion, maximizes Charlotte's trade position. If the Hornets choose to draft (which I predict they'll do), any of Okongwu, Ball or Avdija would be a value pick at #3. Chicago's trade position would then go through the roof, especially with Ball potentially on the board. If I were the Bulls, I'd stay as silent as the grave until their turn to pick.

driveandkick · Post #1676 » by **driveandkick** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:44 pm

Rays Pompadour wrote:The latest has GS going with Edwards at #2 if he's there, which assumes Wiseman goes #1. If this is how it shakes out (which is doubtful given that both GS and Minny want to trade down), then Charlotte is left to make a deal with someone wanting Ball or just go ahead and draft.

Consider these recent reports: Minny and GS both professing a desire to trade down; Boston and Detroit expressing a desire to trade up; GS will draft Edwards #2 if he's there; Ball's interviews are terrible and he's dropping down draft boards; Wiseman doesn't want Minny to draft him - doesn't see a fit next to KAT; Charlotte targeting a big man at #3 and may trade up to #1 to get Wiseman, but also really likes Okongwu.

I like Charlotte's leverage here for whatever they want to do. If they do trade up, it'll be for a less-than-#1 package. But the best scenario for them may be for Minny and GS to stay in their slot and draft. That, in my opinion, maximizes Charlotte's trade position. If the Hornets choose to draft (which I predict they'll do), any of Okongwu, Ball or Avdija would be a value pick at #3. Chicago's trade position would then go through the roof, especially with Ball potentially on the board. If I were the Bulls, I'd stay as silent as the grave until their turn to pick.

No way Minnesota takes Wiseman #1, if GSW does take Edwards that means Ball goes #1. But I'm simply not buying any rumors about GSW at this point. We've heard they are set on like six different players at this point. Which makes me believe no one has a clue what direction they go in. Seems like our top three is some order of Wiseman, Edwards and Okongwu. My gut feeling is that we hope we can draft either Edwards or Wiseman, but if they're both gone we are content with Okongwu. I still think not taking Ball would be a mistake, but just doesn't sound like we like him very much.

316Hornets · Post #1677 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:12 pm

Diop wrote:If we could get Hayes and a future first, I’d be over the moon.

That would be the perfect scenario imo. Hayes is a great prospect and we'd be able to add another quality piece. Let's work on building complete teams like Nuggets, Heat have done. Small markets can't hold onto generational talents, so depth is better.

Post #1678 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:38 pm

316Hornets wrote:
Diop wrote:If we could get Hayes and a future first, I’d be over the moon.

That would be the perfect scenario imo. Hayes is a great prospect and we'd be able to add another quality piece. Let's work on building complete teams like Nuggets, Heat have done. Small markets can't hold onto generational talents, so depth is better.

I must have imagined Tim Duncan in San Antonio then.

Post #1679 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:43 pm

The idiots at nbadraft.net have Wiseman going #11 to San Antonio. I think they just shuffle their draft order randomly every few days for the clickbait.

Post #1680 » by **Diop** » Sun Nov 8, 2020 2:11 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
316Hornets wrote:
Diop wrote:If we could get Hayes and a future first, I’d be over the moon.

That would be the perfect scenario imo. Hayes is a great prospect and we'd be able to add another quality piece. Let's work on building complete teams like Nuggets, Heat have done. Small markets can't hold onto generational talents, so depth is better.

I must have imagined Tim Duncan in San Antonio then.

Well yeah, drafting a loyal, one of the all time greats is an affective strategy. Doesn’t happen very often though