2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[Curmudgeon]

Not too many NBA players from Sidwell Friends. I wonder if he know the Obama girls. Chelsea Clinton also went to Sidwell Friends.

[playa-hater]

I should start caring more about these guys. I haven't been following the thread. But will we be happy if we get this dude...

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...at 14? ... at 26? Can he contribute right away?

Depends on what youre looking for. He’s not a high ceiling player. But he can contribute right away. Switchable on guards [did real well vs Dotson who is a plus nba-caliber athlete]. 3 point shot is a bit slow on the release and he needs his feet set but he can hit it.

He should be able to be a Jae Crowder type, except better vs smalls than bigs. RoCo has been tossed around, but Covington isnt a good man defender and Bey is.

I’d be happy with him at 14. But he doesnt have star potential.

who are your top 3 choices at 14??

[SmartWentCrazy]

I should start caring more about these guys. I haven't been following the thread. But will we be happy if we get this dude...

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...at 14? ... at 26? Can he contribute right away?

Depends on what youre looking for. He’s not a high ceiling player. But he can contribute right away. Switchable on guards [did real well vs Dotson who is a plus nba-caliber athlete]. 3 point shot is a bit slow on the release and he needs his feet set but he can hit it.

He should be able to be a Jae Crowder type, except better vs smalls than bigs. RoCo has been tossed around, but Covington isnt a good man defender and Bey is.

I’d be happy with him at 14. But he doesnt have star potential.

who are your top 3 choices at 14??

I like Bey, I like Patrick Williams, I like Tyrell Terry and im still incredibly intrigued by the unique skill set of Poku. Id be happy with any of them, or a few other guys too.

[Feed Your Head]

Depends on what youre looking for. He’s not a high ceiling player. But he can contribute right away. Switchable on guards [did real well vs Dotson who is a plus nba-caliber athlete]. 3 point shot is a bit slow on the release and he needs his feet set but he can hit it.

He should be able to be a Jae Crowder type, except better vs smalls than bigs. RoCo has been tossed around, but Covington isnt a good man defender and Bey is.

I’d be happy with him at 14. But he doesnt have star potential.

who are your top 3 choices at 14??

I like Bey, I like Patrick Williams, I like Tyrell Terry and im still incredibly intrigued by the unique skill set of Poku. Id be happy with any of them, or a few other guys too.

Terry is my 2nd favorite player in the draft after Haliburton. I think he has a very high ceiling, and will make a team look smart as hell for stealing him.

[playa-hater]

Depends on what youre looking for. He’s not a high ceiling player. But he can contribute right away. Switchable on guards [did real well vs Dotson who is a plus nba-caliber athlete]. 3 point shot is a bit slow on the release and he needs his feet set but he can hit it.

He should be able to be a Jae Crowder type, except better vs smalls than bigs. RoCo has been tossed around, but Covington isnt a good man defender and Bey is.

I’d be happy with him at 14. But he doesnt have star potential.

who are your top 3 choices at 14??

I like Bey, I like Patrick Williams, I like Tyrell Terry and im still incredibly intrigued by the unique skill set of Poku. Id be happy with any of them, or a few other guys too.

One thing I haven't seen with Poku is an updated workout. All his videos are from way back when, before Covid19 Maybe has has gained some muscle and/or proven he can get stronger sooner than later. he has had 6 months to gain some much needed weight.

Love P Williams, S Bey.. like Terry.

[snowman]

I've been on the Saddiq Bey band wagon for a long time. Not a big P. Williams fan. If I'm getting a big at 14, he has to be 6'9 or bigger. P. Williams didn't even start on his college team. I don't think he fits. They say he is 6'8, which is the same size they said Grant Williams was before we drafted him. Now he is really 6'6. We have 3 guards 6'0 or under, we have 2 PF's at 6'6, and 2 centers at 6'8. I don't want any more short power forwards, centers or point guards.

[playa-hater]

I've been on the Saddiq Bey band wagon for a long time. Not a big P. Williams fan. If I'm getting a big at 14, he has to be 6'9 or bigger. P. Williams didn't even start on his college team. I don't think he fits. They say he is 6'8, which is the same size they said Grant Williams was before we drafted him. Now he is really 6'6. We have 3 guards 6'0 or under, we have 2 PF's at 6'6, and 2 centers at 6'8. I don't want any more short power forwards, centers or point guards.

where do you get 6'6? meanwhile everyone skrinks a lot without sneakers. Isaac Okoro is only 6'5 and can't shoot. My eye test seems like Pat Williams is far bigger, and more importantly, plays a lot bigger than Grant Williams.

[snowman]

I meant Grant Williams is 6'6.

[Soxin7]

Well we do have an interested partner to trade with trying to work out the details and we still have 3 names on the list Hali Issac and Kong. Also might be getting a pick in return from another trade but got nothing outside that bit of info. So far though only one bite and even then not a done deal the feeling is about 50% . The other trade is a player for pick and etc. I'll know more Thursday

Did we ever hear an update?

[captain green]

Waiting my dude . I'll post it when I read it .

[Bluewhale]

He should be able to be a Jae Crowder type, except better vs smalls than bigs. RoCo has been tossed around, but Covington isnt a good man defender and Bey is.

I’d be happy with him at 14. But he doesnt have star potential.

Execuse me.

There is NOWAY Saddiq Bey is a good defender as Covington or Crowder.

College stats
Covington 2.2 steal, 1.7 blk
Crowder 2.5 steal, 1.0 blk
Saddiq Bey 0.8 steal, 0.4 blk
I will stay away from Saddiq Bey

Saddiq in the best case is an average defender.

Tyler Bey 1.5 steal, 1.2 blk is a better defender, who has the potential to be Covington/Crowder
However, his 3 pointer is not reliable up to now.
But I like him more than Saddiq Bey

[grindtime22]

who are your top 3 choices at 14??

I like Bey, I like Patrick Williams, I like Tyrell Terry and im still incredibly intrigued by the unique skill set of Poku. Id be happy with any of them, or a few other guys too.

Terry is my 2nd favorite player in the draft after Haliburton. I think he has a very high ceiling, and will make a team look smart as hell for stealing him.

I'm there too.

My first inclination is to just take another switchable wing. I really don't want anybody else that can be picked on. With that said, I'm taking Terry if he is there at 14. It could bomb, but I'm taking a real swing with our last good pick.

[Bluewhale]

They said the same things about Montrezl Harrell, who was drafted at #32. Too small, can't jump, no perimeter game, career garbage man,

IMHO, Steward is not similar to Harrell.

The best case of Steward is the 2017-18 playoff Aron Baynes.
Strong, interior defender against Embiid in defense
Good three point threat in offense.
That is a very good center in modern NBA.

I don't see Steward developing into the pick and roll killer as Harrell . due to his limited speed and below the rim athlete.

[Curmudgeon]

Stewart plays with the same kind of energy. He keeps coming at you. Tireless.
Below the rim athlete? Not with a 9'2" standing reach.

I've seen lots of players. Sometimes I miss, but more often than not I get it right. Barring injury, this kid's floor is a 10-year rotation player. I'm not sure where his ceiling is, but with the exception of Wiseman I don't see a higher one. Okongwu and Toppin are the mock draft heroes du jour, I suppose, but here is Stewart vs Okongwu head to head. Bottom line: Stewart: 18 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, Okongwu: 10 points, 9 rebounds.

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[playa-hater]

Now people are talking about I Stewart. Before that is was Nnaji, before that is was D Oturu.

So if second tier centers mean players not commonly picked in the lottery (1-14) who would be your top choice of these Centers at 26?? leaving out J Smith and Precious

1 - I Stewart
2 - Z Nnaji
3 - D Oturu
4 - V Carey
5 - X Tillman

each one has different positives and negatives.. but we can only draft one..

[SmartWentCrazy]

He should be able to be a Jae Crowder type, except better vs smalls than bigs. RoCo has been tossed around, but Covington isnt a good man defender and Bey is.

I’d be happy with him at 14. But he doesnt have star potential.

Execuse me.

There is NOWAY Saddiq Bey is a good defender as Covington or Crowder.

College stats
Covington 2.2 steal, 1.7 blk
Crowder 2.5 steal, 1.0 blk
Saddiq Bey 0.8 steal, 0.4 blk
I will stay away from Saddiq Bey

Saddiq in the best case is an average defender.

Tyler Bey 1.5 steal, 1.2 blk is a better defender, who has the potential to be Covington/Crowder
However, his 3 pointer is not reliable up to now.
But I like him more than Saddiq Bey

I never said he was as good. I said he’s a similar type of player to them, except more of a guy to cover Smalls relative to Jae and man relative to RoCo.

Watch games and analyze production relative to scheme. Bey is absolutely a good man defender. You could not have watched the Kansas game and came to any other conclusion.

FWIW, i stand by saying that RoCo is not a good man defender.

[Bluewhale]

With all respect, Bey is probability a good man defender against NCAA talent.

But all statistics suggests Saddiq Bey is at best an average defender in NBA. I could not find another good NBA defender whose NCAA steal <1 and blk <1.

Saddiq is an outlier against history, maybe, but I won't expect it.

[SmartWentCrazy]

With all respect, Bey is probability a good man defender against NCAA talent.

But all statistics suggests Saddiq Bey is at best an average defender in NBA. I could not find another good NBA defender whose NCAA steal <1 and blk <1.

Saddiq is an outlier against history, maybe, but I won't expect it.

Weird to comment when you havent watched him play.

[famadihana]

Now people are talking about I Stewart. Before that is was Nnaji, before that is was D Oturu.

So if second tier centers mean players not commonly picked in the lottery (1-14) who would be your top choice of these Centers at 26?? leaving out J Smith and Precious

1 - I Stewart
2 - Z Nnaji
3 - D Oturu
4 - V Carey
5 - X McDaniel

each one has different positives and negatives.. but we can only draft one..

I'll use the time machine to select Xavier McDaniel.

[Spin Move]

Now people are talking about I Stewart. Before that is was Nnaji, before that is was D Oturu.

So if second tier centers mean players not commonly picked in the lottery (1-14) who would be your top choice of these Centers at 26?? leaving out J Smith and Precious

1 - I Stewart
2 - Z Nnaji
3 - D Oturu
4 - V Carey
5 - X McDaniel

each one has different positives and negatives.. but we can only draft one..

I'll use the time machine to select Xavier McDaniel.

1. Otaru
2. Paul Reed
3. Nnaji
4. Azabukie

5. V Carey, Tillman, stewart, Perry, all even.

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