2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS]

[SelbyCobra]

Name one progressive policy that is 'evil'.....

Making a concerted effort to give black and brown people assistance in the pursuit of equality.

[Oscirus]

Food for thought...

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Maybe things aren't as simple as they seem?

I keep saying the polls have to be questioned from here on out. Yea, not all progressive stuff is evil as some say, not all of it is super popular as some think either.[/quote

Name one progressive policy that is 'evil'.....

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

[stuporman]

I keep saying the polls have to be questioned from here on out. Yea, not all progressive stuff is evil as some say, not all of it is super popular as some think either.[/quote

Name one progressive policy that is 'evil'.....

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

Bad phrasing?... you mean like calling a something evil when it isn't actually evil?

[Oscirus]

I keep saying the polls have to be questioned from here on out. Yea, not all progressive stuff is evil as some say, not all of it is super popular as some think either.[/quote

Name one progressive policy that is 'evil'.....

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

Bad phrasing?... you mean like calling a something evil when it isn't actually evil?

I literally just said that was bad phrasing. Is there an echo in here?

[Pointgod]

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

Bad phrasing?... you mean like calling a something evil when it isn't actually evil?

I literally just said that was bad phrasing. Is there an echo in here?

Save your time brah

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[HarthorneWingo]

to be fair though the economy was doing well regardless of if you were on the Trump inherited it camp or beleive he was helping it pre-pandamic. So the theory would be if Biden does his job (which he says he will) in controlling the pandemic then we shuold get back to a strong economy again. Without major policy changes.

I was just pointing out that the markets probably like the consistency of Biden because there is no doubt Trump was a serious loose canoon. Which was reflected when Biden started to take a firm lead in winning the presidency.

By what metrics are you using to conclude that the economy was strong before the pandemic because I would argue that in fact it wasn't. It was clearly very unstable. We've been hitting major bubble burst and recessions almost every 7 years. Like clockwork. This is as a result of our current capitalist system.

We have different views on the success of the economy (median house income up, poverty rate down, unemployment rate lowest since the 60's) and don't want to specifically want to derail and get into a capitalist system vs social system debate because lets be honest we would be dug in the trenches there

But you aren't wrong a capitalist system you have the potential for unstable effects to it because its giving all the power to the people and the markets. I however specifically would take that any day over the gov't getting there hands on trying to overly control it. If you want to chat more via PM wingo I would be happy to do that as well.

You have to compare median household incomes against the rate of inflation and costs of good, don’t you? If you include the incomes of the top 5% or whatever those households will unduly skew the numbers.

Also, what incomes are you including in that analysis? I’m referring to middle class incomes. Why do we have the greatest income and wealth disparities ever right now?

[Pointgod]

I keep saying the polls have to be questioned from here on out. Yea, not all progressive stuff is evil as some say, not all of it is super popular as some think either.[/quote

Name one progressive policy that is 'evil'.....

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

These are good points. And Biden actually ran on and talked about raising the minimum wage, but got beat in Florida. Does Bernie win Florida and Arizona running on his platform? I’m still certain people don’t vote on policy. Partisanship and tribalism is a bigger influencer. This tells me that Democrats could pass more Progressive legislation without paying a political price but they need to get ahead of the messaging.

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[HarthorneWingo]

They did say wallstreet is loving this assuming the republicans can keep the senate. They will have a president that wont recklessly tweet that will make the stock market less volatile but then they won't have to worry about large corporate taxes being passed. It's like there dream scenario.

And renewables will get the biggest pop, as they already have, as a big support plan is in the works.

I have PLUG stock and an ETF that features renewables. Psyched for tomorrow.

I have no issues with investing in renewables. Companies can't survive without that approach nowadays. Just for perspective I have worked in CPG finance my whole working life. Consumers care about ingrediants and sustainable development goals (whether that is biodegradable cartons and cases). I don't think you would be able to survive in this competitive capatilistic CPG market without it.

I have a ton of experience in this field and its not all about price price price anymore. You have many different type of consumers that care not only what they are putting into there body/pets bodies but how it is effecting the environement as well.

What is CPG finance?

[mpharris36]

And renewables will get the biggest pop, as they already have, as a big support plan is in the works.

I have PLUG stock and an ETF that features renewables. Psyched for tomorrow.

I have no issues with investing in renewables. Companies can't survive without that approach nowadays. Just for perspective I have worked in CPG finance my whole working life. Consumers care about ingrediants and sustainable development goals (whether that is biodegradable cartons and cases). I don't think you would be able to survive in this competitive capatilistic CPG market without it.

I have a ton of experience in this field and its not all about price price price anymore. You have many different type of consumers that care not only what they are putting into there body/pets bodies but how it is effecting the environement as well.

What is CPG finance?

Consumer packaged goods

[Oscirus]

I keep saying the polls have to be questioned from here on out. Yea, not all progressive stuff is evil as some say, not all of it is super popular as some think either.[/quote

Name one progressive policy that is 'evil'.....

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

These are good points. And Biden actually ran on and talked about raising the minimum wage, but got beat in Florida. Does Bernie win Florida and Arizona running on his platform? I’m still certain people don’t vote on policy. Partisanship and tribalism is a bigger influencer. This tells me that Democrats could pass more Progressive legislation without paying a political price but they need to get ahead of the messaging.

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This is why nancy and her lieutenants need to step the **** down, they're one-sided in their approach to doing things.

And even though this is just going for clicks, theres this potential landmine https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-says-she-may-quit-politics-dems-blame-progressives-losses-2020-11

[Oscirus]

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Does he just say dumb **** for the sake of saying it? You're safe for six years, dont need to blow trump ( the guy who gave out your private number) anymore.

[Pointgod]

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

These are good points. And Biden actually ran on and talked about raising the minimum wage, but got beat in Florida. Does Bernie win Florida and Arizona running on his platform? I’m still certain people don’t vote on policy. Partisanship and tribalism is a bigger influencer. This tells me that Democrats could pass more Progressive legislation without paying a political price but they need to get ahead of the messaging.

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This is why nancy and her lieutenants need to step the **** down, they're one-sided in their approach to doing things.

And even though this is just going for clicks, theres this potential landmine https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-says-she-may-quit-politics-dems-blame-progressives-losses-2020-11

I fixed your link for you. The AOC article just comes off as venting which is fine but don’t have the fight in public. I have a hard time believing that the Party is hostile against Black Lives Matter when they PASSED the George Floyd Justice in policing act, you have both a Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate saying Black Lives Matter and addressing systemic racism. And the Medicare For All part is just weird because just because someone doesn’t agree that Medicare for all is the right choice now or is politically palatable doesn’t mean they’re hostile to it. I’m sure 90% of the disagreement is based on messaging and slogans. Having these fights when the Democrats aren’t even in power is idiotic. Are you saying that Nancy needs to get her caucus in order or it’s her fault that AOC thought of quitting Congress? You have to imagine Republicans are laughing right now at the stupidity of the Democrats. They won and still wield a lot of power but they insists on these stupid internal squabbles

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Does he just say dumb **** for the sake of saying it? You're safe for six years, dont need to blow trump ( the guy who gave out your private number) anymore.

Lindsey knows where the future of the Party is headed, it’s the Trump cult now. The old Republican Party of Reagan is dead. It’s an angry death cult now that worships a soon to be indicted authoritarian leader

[Pointgod]

I ain’t even mad though

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[Pointgod]

Donald will forever be a loser no matter how many recounts

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One of my laughs is weezy just like hers

I've been able to do Muttley impersonations since I was a kid

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[Clyde_Style]

SUGGESTION TO MODS:

After you retire this thread, start a temporary one a week or two before the run-off vote in GA and let that run until the votes are finalized.

That would be a fitting conclusion to this process IMO

[HarthorneWingo]

I keep saying the polls have to be questioned from here on out. Yea, not all progressive stuff is evil as some say, not all of it is super popular as some think either.[/quote

Name one progressive policy that is 'evil'.....

Bad phrasing, not evil but toxic to voters.
Taking on your challenge the term : "defunding police" while the policy isnt bad, that phrasing leaves alot to desire.

These are good points. And Biden actually ran on and talked about raising the minimum wage, but got beat in Florida. Does Bernie win Florida and Arizona running on his platform? I’m still certain people don’t vote on policy. Partisanship and tribalism is a bigger influencer. This tells me that Democrats could pass more Progressive legislation without paying a political price but they need to get ahead of the messaging.

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