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Post#221 » by dcstanley » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:49 pm

Dupp wrote:Say you could get gallo or Ibaka for full mle which one do you take?

I think Gallo might have a little more value for the Lakers but in a vacuum I'd probably take Ibaka.
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Post#223 » by mademan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 am

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Dupp wrote:Say you could get gallo or Ibaka for full mle which one do you take?

I think Gallo might have a little more value for the Lakers but in a vacuum I'd probably take Ibaka.


It's Gallo every time. When push comes to shove, AD is playing C and Ibaka will be sitting on the bench. Gallo will be a part of the Lakers closing lineups
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Post#224 » by D.Brasco » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:45 am

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I wonder if it'll be more mental exhaustion or physical coming off a short 2 month off-season? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Bron had any injuries he was battling during the playoffs?
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Post#225 » by Dupp » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:14 am

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I wonder if it'll be more mental exhaustion or physical coming off a short 2 month off-season? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Bron had any injuries he was battling during the playoffs?


Almost certainly mental
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Post#226 » by Greyhound » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:45 am

mademan wrote:
dcstanley wrote:
Dupp wrote:Say you could get gallo or Ibaka for full mle which one do you take?

I think Gallo might have a little more value for the Lakers but in a vacuum I'd probably take Ibaka.


It's Gallo every time. When push comes to shove, AD is playing C and Ibaka will be sitting on the bench. Gallo will be a part of the Lakers closing lineups

Gallo will be on the bench and LeBron will be at the four to close.

I take Ibaka, easily. He would start for the Lakers. He allows you to keep Davis at the four, maintain elite rim protection, while still spreading the floor.

All that being said, I like Ibaka as a replacement in the event that Howard walks. My preference would be to keep the band together and run it back.

Use the MLE to bring back guys like Howard and Morris. Don’t screw with the chemistry unless absolutely necessary.
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Post#227 » by mademan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:58 am

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dcstanley wrote:I think Gallo might have a little more value for the Lakers but in a vacuum I'd probably take Ibaka.


It's Gallo every time. When push comes to shove, AD is playing C and Ibaka will be sitting on the bench. Gallo will be a part of the Lakers closing lineups

Gallo will be on the bench and LeBron will be at the four to close.

I take Ibaka, easily. He would start for the Lakers. He allows you to keep Davis at the four, maintain elite rim protection, while still spreading the floor.

All that being said, I like Ibaka as a replacement in the event that Howard walks. My preference would be to keep the band together and run it back.

Use the MLE to bring back guys like Howard and Morris. Don’t screw with the chemistry unless absolutely necessary.


You’re underrating Gallo heavily if u think he wouldn’t be finishing games. Markieff Morris was starting and finishing games in the freakin nba finals on this lakers squad.
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Post#228 » by loveandbeer » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:19 am

There's just no plausible way we get Ibaka though.
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Post#229 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:52 pm

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I wonder if it'll be more mental exhaustion or physical coming off a short 2 month off-season? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe Bron had any injuries he was battling during the playoffs?


His groin was listed on basically every injury report from the Portland series and on.
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Post#230 » by RCM88x » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:36 pm

He probably is a little frustrated his team won a title and 2 months later the next season is already starting. I would be too. This short of an "off-season" has never happened in the history of the league.

It's definitely mostly mental, but physically he played a full playoff run + two weeks of games. At his age/mileage it certainly would allow him to go harder in the RS if there was more time off.
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Post#231 » by Greyhound » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:07 pm

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It's Gallo every time. When push comes to shove, AD is playing C and Ibaka will be sitting on the bench. Gallo will be a part of the Lakers closing lineups

Gallo will be on the bench and LeBron will be at the four to close.

I take Ibaka, easily. He would start for the Lakers. He allows you to keep Davis at the four, maintain elite rim protection, while still spreading the floor.

All that being said, I like Ibaka as a replacement in the event that Howard walks. My preference would be to keep the band together and run it back.

Use the MLE to bring back guys like Howard and Morris. Don’t screw with the chemistry unless absolutely necessary.


You’re underrating Gallo heavily if u think he wouldn’t be finishing games. Markieff Morris was starting and finishing games in the freakin nba finals on this lakers squad.

He won’t be.

Vogel values defense to close (above all else). Markieff has been given a bum wrap because he struggled against Butler a couple of games in the Finals. Truth is, he played adequate defense (overall) and he was a valuable reserve in the Lakers title run.

I value the toughness (and goon deterrence) that Markieff brings over all that Gallo provides. If he can be had at a reasonable cost, I would rather stick with him.

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Post#232 » by andyhop » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm

RCM88x wrote:
It's definitely mostly mental, but physically he played a full playoff run + two weeks of games. At his age/mileage it certainly would allow him to go harder in the RS if there was more time off.


I could see him being more rested from having a limited break given how hard guys like him go training in the offseason
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Post#233 » by tone wone » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:17 pm

Talent is talent so if Ibaka wants to play for LA on the cheap that would be great but spending real resources on big men is pretty silly on a team with Davis and Lebron. These two are the best bigman duo in the league when slotted a C/PF.

If Dwight walks and/or if Javael is put in a trade package the Lakers can just pivot to Noel or Tristan. The big man rotation is the last thing the Lakers should be focused on.
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Post#234 » by mademan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:16 pm

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mademan wrote:
Greyhound wrote:Gallo will be on the bench and LeBron will be at the four to close.

I take Ibaka, easily. He would start for the Lakers. He allows you to keep Davis at the four, maintain elite rim protection, while still spreading the floor.

All that being said, I like Ibaka as a replacement in the event that Howard walks. My preference would be to keep the band together and run it back.

Use the MLE to bring back guys like Howard and Morris. Don’t screw with the chemistry unless absolutely necessary.


You’re underrating Gallo heavily if u think he wouldn’t be finishing games. Markieff Morris was starting and finishing games in the freakin nba finals on this lakers squad.

He won’t be.

Vogel values defense to close (above all else). Markieff has been given a bum wrap because he struggled against Butler a couple of games in the Finals. Truth is, he played adequate defense (overall) and he was a valuable reserve in the Lakers title run.

I value the toughness (and goon deterrence) that Markieff brings over all that Gallo provides. If he can be had at a reasonable cost, I would rather stick with him.

Don’t mess with chemistry.


lmao, Kieff's defense was chit.
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Post#235 » by Jordan Syndrome » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:26 pm

RCM88x wrote:He probably is a little frustrated his team won a title and 2 months later the next season is already starting. I would be too. This short of an "off-season" has never happened in the history of the league.

It's definitely mostly mental, but physically he played a full playoff run + two weeks of games. At his age/mileage it certainly would allow him to go harder in the RS if there was more time off.


I'm so sad for LeBron James, making Millions of dollars and complaining he only gets two months off. 200+ Million Americans don't get two months off and don't get Millions of Dollars.

I like LeBron, but come on.
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Post#236 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:20 pm

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Post#237 » by RCM88x » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:34 pm

I honestly have no clue what the Lakers would be thinking here. Bad on offense, bad on defense, old, mentally fragile, expensive.

Danny Green alone is more valuable in my opinion.
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Post#238 » by Dupp » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:26 pm

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RCM88x wrote:He probably is a little frustrated his team won a title and 2 months later the next season is already starting. I would be too. This short of an "off-season" has never happened in the history of the league.

It's definitely mostly mental, but physically he played a full playoff run + two weeks of games. At his age/mileage it certainly would allow him to go harder in the RS if there was more time off.


I'm so sad for LeBron James, making Millions of dollars and complaining he only gets two months off. 200+ Million Americans don't get two months off and don't get Millions of Dollars.

I like LeBron, but come on.



Is he complaining? Pretty mild complaint if so. Dude just got back to his family. Don’t blame him for not being pumped about the short turn around.
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Post#239 » by Dupp » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:27 pm

RCM88x wrote:I honestly have no clue what the Lakers would be thinking here. Bad on offense, bad on defense, old, mentally fragile, expensive.

Danny Green alone is more valuable in my opinion.




Lakers has a pretty clear plan.


Step 1. Bad shooters
Step 2. ???
Step 3. Profit




Regardless I doubt this really has any chance of happening .
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Post#240 » by Greyhound » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:01 pm

mademan wrote:
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You’re underrating Gallo heavily if u think he wouldn’t be finishing games. Markieff Morris was starting and finishing games in the freakin nba finals on this lakers squad.

He won’t be.

Vogel values defense to close (above all else). Markieff has been given a bum wrap because he struggled against Butler a couple of games in the Finals. Truth is, he played adequate defense (overall) and he was a valuable reserve in the Lakers title run.

I value the toughness (and goon deterrence) that Markieff brings over all that Gallo provides. If he can be had at a reasonable cost, I would rather stick with him.

Don’t mess with chemistry.


lmao, Kieff's defense was chit.

He, he, haha, it was not.

Context matters. Morris was adequate defensively alongside a big. Things got dicey when he was lining up at center (alongside Kuzma) in those dreaded second unit small ball lineups.

That having been said, regardless of how you viewed his defense, the toughness he brings to your team is a real thing. It’s something that you would rather have and not need, then need and not have.
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