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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1981 » by azwfan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:39 pm

Little Digger wrote:Chicago trade is the play Myers/Kerr are setting up

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Okoro checks all the boxes. From what I've seen, dude can roll out of bed and defend in the playoffs.

Watching his interview with schmidt (sp?) he seemed like a smart kid and plays with aggression and is not going to be pushed around. Love Okoro. If we can we trade down and get him that's a win even though I don't really want WCJ. Hopefully the Bulls are offering a future 1st instead of WCJ. Or maybe a 3-way where some other team wants an undersized, underperforming, injured center and we get a future 1st out of it.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1982 » by ShayDee » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:42 pm

If we can get one of those Cs picks(especially 14 or 26). But I don't know who will trade down for the 3 picks
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1983 » by azwfan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:43 pm

northoakland510 wrote:
Little Digger wrote:Chicago trade is the play Myers/Kerr are setting up

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The comparison to Igoudola has this kid overvalued for real. I like his game, but offensively he will not bring much.

Warriors fans (and media) are freaking obsessed with finding the next Iguodala, Livingston, etc. Who gives a crap. Get talent and its up to the coaches to make the system enhance the talent the team does have. Iguodala is such a unique player its a waste of time to try and find another one.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1984 » by Hopper15 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:48 pm

I would guess that a Bulls trade down would more likely involve Satoransky.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1985 » by Warriors Analyst » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:51 pm

azwfan wrote:
northoakland510 wrote:
Little Digger wrote:Chicago trade is the play Myers/Kerr are setting up

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The comparison to Igoudola has this kid overvalued for real. I like his game, but offensively he will not bring much.

Warriors fans (and media) are freaking obsessed with finding the next Iguodala, Livingston, etc. Who gives a crap. Get talent and its up to the coaches to make the system enhance the talent the team does have. Iguodala is such a unique player its a waste of time to try and find another one.


Spot on. We also shouldn't want to replicate the Livingston experience. He's a once in a life time player and also happened to be very difficult to build playable lineups with him in them.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1986 » by northoakland510 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:55 pm

azwfan wrote:
northoakland510 wrote:
Little Digger wrote:Chicago trade is the play Myers/Kerr are setting up

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The comparison to Igoudola has this kid overvalued for real. I like his game, but offensively he will not bring much.

Warriors fans (and media) are freaking obsessed with finding the next Iguodala, Livingston, etc. Who gives a crap. Get talent and its up to the coaches to make the system enhance the talent the team does have. Iguodala is such a unique player its a waste of time to try and find another one.


I agree time to move on. If the team is light years ahead like they say they need to create a new trend, that gives them the advantage.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1987 » by ChuckDurn » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:01 pm

azwfan wrote:
northoakland510 wrote:
Little Digger wrote:Chicago trade is the play Myers/Kerr are setting up

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The comparison to Igoudola has this kid overvalued for real. I like his game, but offensively he will not bring much.

Warriors fans (and media) are freaking obsessed with finding the next Iguodala, Livingston, etc. Who gives a crap. Get talent and its up to the coaches to make the system enhance the talent the team does have. Iguodala is such a unique player its a waste of time to try and find another one.

I agree. I bristle at the idea that since Haliburton is a somewhat tall, thin PG, that his game will resemble Livingston's. It ignore the fact that Livingston was significantly taller and longer, and was able to defend everything from 1-4 pretty well, and was deadly from the mid-range while shooting over guys 4-6 inches shorter than him. Haliburton doesn't have any of those characteristics..... while I wish Haliburton well, he won't be anything like Livingston.

But Okoro does almost everything on the court very well, except for shooting. He is a great talent. My interest in him isn't because he's "another Iguodala". It's because he's going to be really good, wherever he plays.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1988 » by TB » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:04 pm

People are sleeping on Wendell Carter Jr.

His 2nd year numbers, while being 2 years younger, are almost identical to Horfords 2nd year. He's a slightly worse rim protector and passer, but again, thats being a couple years younger. Like Horford, he makes winning plays, no matter how simple and boring they are.

Getting Carter and Okoro for the 2nd pick would be very solid IMO. Imagine if then they can somehow get Gallo for the MLE and Rubio for the TPE....

Steph / Rubio / Bowman
Klay / Okoro / Poole
Wiggins / Gallo / Lee
Dray / Paschall / Smiley
Carter / Chriss / Looney
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1989 » by Little Digger » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:09 pm

I love Okoro..and if you think comparing him to Iguodala is some how a bad thing? Lol nothing to say there

Okoro will be able to defend 4 positions (depending on the matchups of course)..He’s totally a team first player with a high bball IQ....can playmake for teammates..He can run the floor like a deer with his elite athleticism..He’s super competitive..Ya it’s absurd to compare him to Andre..


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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1990 » by northoakland510 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:12 pm

Little Digger wrote:I love Okoro..and if you think comparing him to Iguodala is some how a bad thing? Lol nothing to say there

Okoro will be able to defend 4 positions (depending on the matchups of course)..He’s totally a team first player with a high bball IQ..He can run the floor like a deer with his elite athleticism..He’s super competitive..Ya it’s absurd to compare him to Andre..


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If Wiseman isn't there at 2, I am good with a trade down. I'll take Okoro over Deni.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1991 » by northoakland510 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:19 pm

TB wrote:People are sleeping on Wendell Carter Jr.

His 2nd year numbers, while being 2 years younger, are almost identical to Horfords 2nd year. He's a slightly worse rim protector and passer, but again, thats being a couple years younger. Like Horford, he makes winning plays, no matter how simple and boring they are.

Getting Carter and Okoro for the 2nd pick would be very solid IMO. Imagine if then they can somehow get Gallo for the MLE and Rubio for the TPE....

Steph / Rubio / Bowman
Klay / Okoro / Poole
Wiggins / Gallo / Lee
Dray / Paschall / Smiley
Carter / Chriss / Looney


A team who wants to get bigger will have 3 6'9'' centers on the roster.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1992 » by Coxy » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:33 pm

TB wrote:People are sleeping on Wendell Carter Jr.

His 2nd year numbers, while being 2 years younger, are almost identical to Horfords 2nd year. He's a slightly worse rim protector and passer, but again, thats being a couple years younger. Like Horford, he makes winning plays, no matter how simple and boring they are.

Getting Carter and Okoro for the 2nd pick would be very solid IMO. Imagine if then they can somehow get Gallo for the MLE and Rubio for the TPE....

Steph / Rubio / Bowman
Klay / Okoro / Poole
Wiggins / Gallo / Lee
Dray / Paschall / Smiley
Carter / Chriss / Looney


Some think its sleeping on Wendall Carter Jnr, others like me, would be saying you're reaching suggesting we trade for him using the #2.

He aint all that. He wouldn't immediately become our starting C, he'd just become a guy that is competing now against Looney and Chriss for the starting spot and then the minutes that we don't play Dray there. I'd say we already have his type here anyway, in Looney. I don't see the point in making him any sort of centrepiece for the #2.

I see no deal with the Bulls. None of their players get me excited for the #2 pick. I like Coby White as a guy to backup Steph, and Sato as a backup as well, but still wouldn't include the #2 for either.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1993 » by HiRez » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:40 pm

Instead of a player deal with Chicago, what if we just swap picks in both 2020 and 2021? I'd be interested in that if they were open to it (but they shouldn't be).

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1994 » by ShayDee » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:45 pm

https://pippenainteasy.com/2020/04/02/chicago-bulls-wendell-carter-jr-openly-requests-position-change-power-forward/

When interviewed by the Chicago Sun-Times about talking to Head Coach Jim Boylen about the possibility of playing the power forward rather than the center position, Carter responded, “Absolutely, Coach [Jim Boylen] understands that I’m a great defender no matter who I’m guarding, but he also understands that one of the reasons we’re in the black is because of my size because I’m not as tall. I mean, I’m more mobile than most fives, so I’m able to be up, slide, all that.”

He also added, “I’ve been playing the four all of my life. . . . It’s definitely a conversation I’m going to bring up, for sure, but as of right now, I’m just trying to make it work with where I’m at.’’


He is not committed to playing C. I mean if he is forced to or is on a situation where he is the C he will but you need commitment to play 5 and train your body and mind that way, he clearly is no there yet. If he is the starting 5 for a championship team right now then we doomed
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Post#1995 » by Little Digger » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:01 pm

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Post#1996 » by HiRez » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:05 pm

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Nice, there it is. Now just waiting to see Williams and Okongwu workouts but it looks like they're covering their bases for anywhere in the top 10-ish. Haven't seen Toppin or Hayes or Nesmith or Bey show up yet, but in case they end up a trade in the #10-#13 area, I would think they'd want to see those guys.
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Post#1997 » by TB » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:11 pm

northoakland510 wrote:
TB wrote:People are sleeping on Wendell Carter Jr.

His 2nd year numbers, while being 2 years younger, are almost identical to Horfords 2nd year. He's a slightly worse rim protector and passer, but again, thats being a couple years younger. Like Horford, he makes winning plays, no matter how simple and boring they are.

Getting Carter and Okoro for the 2nd pick would be very solid IMO. Imagine if then they can somehow get Gallo for the MLE and Rubio for the TPE....

Steph / Rubio / Bowman
Klay / Okoro / Poole
Wiggins / Gallo / Lee
Dray / Paschall / Smiley
Carter / Chriss / Looney


A team who wants to get bigger will have 3 6'9'' centers on the roster.


Carter is like 260 with a 7'4 wingspan. He absolutely makes us a bigger team. Also, Okoro is a 225 tank. He also makes us bigger and stronger.

Besides, our best center during this run is Draymond, who is like 6'2. I'm not worried about getting taller to be honest. We need more players that are worthy of minutes. This move gets us 2 of them.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1998 » by TB » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:14 pm

Coxy wrote:
TB wrote:People are sleeping on Wendell Carter Jr.

His 2nd year numbers, while being 2 years younger, are almost identical to Horfords 2nd year. He's a slightly worse rim protector and passer, but again, thats being a couple years younger. Like Horford, he makes winning plays, no matter how simple and boring they are.

Getting Carter and Okoro for the 2nd pick would be very solid IMO. Imagine if then they can somehow get Gallo for the MLE and Rubio for the TPE....

Steph / Rubio / Bowman
Klay / Okoro / Poole
Wiggins / Gallo / Lee
Dray / Paschall / Smiley
Carter / Chriss / Looney


Some think its sleeping on Wendall Carter Jnr, others like me, would be saying you're reaching suggesting we trade for him using the #2.

He aint all that. He wouldn't immediately become our starting C, he'd just become a guy that is competing now against Looney and Chriss for the starting spot and then the minutes that we don't play Dray there. I'd say we already have his type here anyway, in Looney. I don't see the point in making him any sort of centrepiece for the #2.

I see no deal with the Bulls. None of their players get me excited for the #2 pick. I like Coby White as a guy to backup Steph, and Sato as a backup as well, but still wouldn't include the #2 for either.


Thats fair. I've been wrong many times before lol.

To me though, its not Carter "for the #2". Its only dropping back 2 picks, getting a guy that could potentially be better than Edwards, while also snagging a starting big. And ya, I think he's easily the starter on our team. He's 20 and already avg 10/10 with solid defense, which is basically better than anything we have started at center since Bogut. I see no reason to not believe that Carter trajectory has him as a 15/10 type big as early as next year.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1999 » by Phase 3 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:48 pm

Wiseman makes too much sense. I think he’s the pick if he’s on the board when the Warriors select.
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