Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[SmartWentCrazy]

You guys are tripping on the value of Theis wrt to Turner.

They've been doing it for years now.

He’s talking about you lol

[BostonCouchGM]

Kemba / Jrue / Brown / Tatum / Turner would be one hell of a starting 5. In theory Hayward/Smart/picks should be enough value going out to make that happen.

For this team, I think I'd rather have Smart and a lottery pick than either of Jrue and Turner.

We as fans need to look at this as a GM not with a punchdrunk head from making the Conference Finals where we avoided a MIL team.

We did just lose to the Heat who were the 5th seed and...

Jaylen Brown 23 years old
Jayson Tatum 22 years old

Guys... our guys are 2-3 years away from entering our prime. Everything we do should be in mind of making our run 2-3 years from now. Not now. Not today.

Unless again you're trading for an MVP guy like a Harden.

Jaylen turned 24 y/o recently. Tatum turns 23 y/o in March. You're otherwise correct. It's also why we shouldn't have traded for a Kyrie rental because that #8 pick could have been SGS or MPJ and given us the best young trio in the league instead of what happened which was Danny panicking and signing Kemba so he could save face when Kyrie left. I'm afraid the exact same thing is happening now. Rather than stay the course, draft well, and manage the cap, he's desperate not to lose Hayward for nothing and is going to make a panic move involving trading all our picks. Maybe he's finally realized what a terrible drafter he is and rather than waste those picks, he's trying to get some value? Doubt it though.

[jeremym480]

Holiday... another super healthy midget, this FO never learns.

Is this sarcasm or something... cause Holiday isn't too injury prone. And he's 6'4 and can guard most 3's.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Theis is nice, but Turner is better than him in every way. Im on record saying that I dont think he’s as good as some believe, but he’s a better player than Theis hands down

[celticfan42487]

Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

Nope. He's an average starting C that people think shoots like KAT and defends like AD. Trade scenarios for the past 3-4 years with this guy and he's like OK.

Many analyst also don't believe he's a good defender either as he plays drop coverage which is fine in the regular season by all last playoffs Centers that do that got eaten alive. Like Embiid and Gobert.

I wouldn't be surprised if Turner contributes less than Smart to a team and Smart is a 6th man on a championship team kind of player.

Then you factor in you can get Centers in the open market for 1/100th of their value and it's a terrible investment from an asset point of view.

Again though Hayward is an asset that has an expiration date that's pretty clear right now, so it's better than nothing.

[Bleeding Green]

You guys are tripping on the value of Theis wrt to Turner.

They've been doing it for years now.

He’s talking about you lol

I know.

[reload141]

Holiday... another super healthy midget, this FO never learns.

He’s 6”4......

[Spin Move]

There is alot up in the air, just becuase there is a call does not mean a team is seriously considering a trade they are often just figuring out the value of their assets. I don't like the Idea of Hayward plus all three picks for Jrue becuase he is small and we already have Kemba and smart and it leaves our frontcourt one thies injury away from nonexistent but I also understand that Danny needs to preserve that max contract slot Hayward has for future trades, only 14 is really worth that much. 26 and 30 are players that are long shots to last past a first contract. However I would rather extend Hayward, he is re-ups are 20-25 million a year he becomes very tradeable.

[Parliament10]

Read on Twitter

[Spin Move]

Turner is a better scorer and shot blocker and switcher on the PNR then Theis, Thies is a better rebounder. screener and post and team defender. Overall Turner is a little better then Thies, as far as value goes, Thies makes 1/3 as much as Turner, but is a FA after this season. They would play together, I think turner is a marginal upgrade over Theis, however he would be a good addition we are very thin up front.

[GoCeltics123]

There are other factors to consider going forward, but Oladipo has been discussed often, including in several three-team deals along with Myles Turner, league sources tell IndyStar.

There still are incoming calls to find out his availability.

Myles Turner had been resigned to playing on another team going into the offseason according to league sources with knowledge of the situation. The interest in him around the league remains extremely high, including Boston and Charlotte, but the most recent interactions he has had with the Pacers suggest he could stay put.

Found this on Pacers Digest

[zimpy27]

Smart/Jrue would be one of the best defensive backcourts the NBA has seen for a couple decades.

[31to6]

Three firsts for Okongwu, Hayward for a quality bag of chips and we’re golden.

[Bleeding Green]

Am I the only one who thinks Turner is overrated?

Nope. He's an average starting C that people think shoots like KAT and defends like AD. Trade scenarios for the past 3-4 years with this guy and he's like OK.

Many analyst also don't believe he's a good defender either as he plays drop coverage which is fine in the regular season by all last playoffs Centers that do that got eaten alive. Like Embiid and Gobert.

I wouldn't be surprised if Turner contributes less than Smart to a team and Smart is a 6th man on a championship team kind of player.

Then you factor in you can get Centers in the open market for 1/100th of their value and it's a terrible investment from an asset point of view.

Again though Hayward is an asset that has an expiration date that's pretty clear right now, so it's better than nothing.

I would genuinely rather let Hayward go for nothing than trade him for Jrue Holiday and Myles Turner. Can they trade Hayward for a legitimate game-changing kind of player instead? If not, I don't really get enamored with average starting point guards on the downside, and average starting centers who haven't improved much in 3-4 years, especially when these players aren't cheap. I've been reading these trade threads for the last three years with Hayward and I don't think there have been any trades for gamechanging players, it's always Steven Adams or Clint Capela or Myles Turner or Lonzo Ball or some other OK player.

[BillTheGOAT]

Dont get your hopes up for Jrue Holliday.

As soon as rumors started coming out about a multiple team trade, it will get sabotaged or it could be false reporting.

As in talks were held but nothing ever got close, Ainge is going to say the same things he always says, and I like Ainge...

[big-shot-ROB]

Turner is a better scorer and shot blocker and switcher on the PNR then Theis, Thies is a better rebounder. screener and post and team defender. Overall Turner is a little better then Thies, as far as value goes, Thies makes 1/3 as much as Turner, but is a FA after this season. They would play together, I think turner is a marginal upgrade over Theis, however he would be a good addition we are very thin up front.

I don't think Turner is better than Theis at defending the PnR.

[ddb]

Turner, Jrue, Dipo. These are all guys on the block. I'm not including Westbrook or CP3 because I don't believe Boston has any interest in those guys. I think there's a lot of posturing going on right now from all angles. Think back on Danny Ainge deals. A lot of times he ends up acquiring a player that nobody in the media was talking about. So the real question is who is Danny really after?

[Bleeding Green]

Turner isn't even a better scorer, he just takes more shots. Why would anyone want a center with a 56 TS%. It's not 2002 anymore.

[Disinformation]

Three firsts for Okongwu, Hayward for a quality bag of chips and we’re golden.

What flavor chips?

[leper-con]

I think the fact that these deals are so out in the open means they have fallen through.