Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

[Stanford]

Do you guys realize that if we can get Beal or Lavine, we can just attach a handful of picks and turn it into Harden?

How are we getting Lavine without picks and why would Houston want Lavine?

I'm so confused today

[davesilver]

How am I supposed to get any work done today

[Sixersftw]

I'm so confused today

Thats why today is the greatest day of the year! Anything is possible and nothing will happen!
Only one thing is certain, Ainge was so close to making a move tonight.

[eagereyez]

Lavine and Beal are smoke and mirrors. In negotiations, you have to have a backup plan, otherwise the opposing side will rob you blind. Morey has to make the Rockets believe he is 100% set on another move. Once he accomplishes that, he can "reluctantly" put Simmons on the table for Harden. And the Rockets will suddenly believe they got a steal. Don't be fooled - Morey knows as well as anyone that you need MVP caliber players to win a chip. And that ain't Lavine, Beal, or Simmons.

[VDT]

I dont think Nets are the biggest competition for Harden (unless they want to trade Kyrie, which they should). But most other deals would have to include a high lottery pick so it would have to happen today.

[mhunt]

Beal (w/o giving up Ben or Jo) would be amazing.

And impossible. Please show your work. What specifically do you think Washington is taking for Beal that’s not Ben or Joel that won’t easily be beat by Boston, denver, Atlanta, the nets.

My work? I didn't say it will happen. I said it would be amazing.

[51X3RF4N]

Lavine and Beal are smoke and mirrors. In negotiations, you have to have a backup plan, otherwise the opposing side will rob you blind. Morey has to make the Rockets believe he is 100% set on another move. Once he accomplishes that, he can "reluctantly" put Simmons on the table for Harden. And the Rockets will suddenly believe they got a steal. Don't be fooled - Morey knows as well as anyone that you need MVP caliber players to win a chip. And that ain't Lavine, Beal, or Simmons.

Wait. What? Why would he reluctantly put Simmons on the table after convincing the Rockets that he is going in a different direction?

If anything, convincing the Rockets of that would be a move to make them up the ante and put Harden on the table for less than they previously asked for. Which may also include Simmons.

But at least then Morey can say "thank you for coming down on your price, I accept."

If Morey wants Harden, and is okay trading Simmons, we wouldn't be seeing any of these reports as it would be a done deal.

I don't think Morey wants Harden bad enough to include Simmons. So any posturing being done at this point is to A) legit try to make another move or B) get Houston to offer Harden without Simmons being involved.

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[6ers83]

How am I supposed to get any work done today

Lol
Nothing will happen all the good players we were targeting are gone.

[6ers83]

Read on Twitter

With how 2020 is going, Im guessing westbrook.

If there's one thing I know, there's no better friendship than Westbrook and Joel Embiid.

Lol

[FireMorey]

If Morey wants to play the long game with Harden, that’s totally fine, but in the end I definitely think he should pull the trigger if it comes down to Harden for Simmons or you don’t get Harden. That’s just too big of an opportunity to pass up.

But I can understand why he’s pursue other options first, that’s the smart thing to do. See if you can add to Simmons and Embiid before having to trade one of them to upgrade the roster, but ultimately I don’t think the Sixers have a lot of things other teams want.

But if anyone can find a way I guess, it’s Morey.

[eagereyez]

Lavine and Beal are smoke and mirrors. In negotiations, you have to have a backup plan, otherwise the opposing side will rob you blind. Morey has to make the Rockets believe he is 100% set on another move. Once he accomplishes that, he can "reluctantly" put Simmons on the table for Harden. And the Rockets will suddenly believe they got a steal. Don't be fooled - Morey knows as well as anyone that you need MVP caliber players to win a chip. And that ain't Lavine, Beal, or Simmons.

Wait. What? Why would he reluctantly put Simmons on the table after convincing the Rockets that he is going in a different direction?

If anything, convincing the Rockets of that would be a move to make them up the ante and put Harden on the table for less than they previously asked for. Which may also include Simmons.

But at least then Morey can say "thank you for coming down on your price, I accept."

If Morey wants Harden, and is okay trading Simmons, we wouldn't be seeing any of these reports as it would be a done deal.

I don't think Morey wants Harden bad enough to include Simmons. So any posturing being done at this point is to A) legit try to make another move or B) get Houston to offer Harden without Simmons being involved.

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Morey would drive Simmons to Houston himself if that's all it took to get Harden. The Rockets are likely asking for Simmons + a lot more, otherwise Simmons would be in Houston by now. Morey has to develop other trades and walk away from the table in order to bring Houston to their senses.

This is how negotiations work. You low-ball while the other side high-balls. Then you hopefully meet somewhere in the middle.

[fl311]

Morey is working on other trades to obtain players that Houston may want in lieu of Simmons. It’s a long shot but he is working many avenues here.

[76ciology]

For me, the way I see it..

There are two kinds of offers for Harden.
1.) an offer without stars
2.) an offer with a star

If the offer needs a star, sixers can do a harden deal easily by giving Ben.

But when your star asks for a trade, the rule is to underpay. Windhorst said that the truth is, Pels did overpay for AD.

Morey is not an amateur GM. He knows that right now, it will be an “overpay” to trade Ben for Harden.

So what does he do now? He is trying to come up with a better offer than what the Nets is offering to the rockets. We don’t have that right now. But if Morey can be creative, he may be able to atleast match the value of what the Nets is offering.

I dont think Morey is dumb enough to not be working hard to get Harden. We have a tremendous opportunity to land him. Ive always believed (even in real life) that you need the stars to align if you are closing a big deal. The stars do align for us.

Just my two cents.

Morey is working on other trades to obtain players that Houston may want in lieu of Simmons. It’s a long shot but he is working many avenues here.

We posted almost at the same time

[76ciology]

Morey is working on other trades to obtain players that Houston may want in lieu of Simmons. It’s a long shot but he is working many avenues here.

Lols exactly.

[nitocobola]

It's insane how hard the elton brand regime **** us.

He pretty much closed our championsip window in one year. Even with the fultz fiasco we were in a good spot

[VDT]

Lavine and Beal are smoke and mirrors. In negotiations, you have to have a backup plan, otherwise the opposing side will rob you blind. Morey has to make the Rockets believe he is 100% set on another move. Once he accomplishes that, he can "reluctantly" put Simmons on the table for Harden. And the Rockets will suddenly believe they got a steal. Don't be fooled - Morey knows as well as anyone that you need MVP caliber players to win a chip. And that ain't Lavine, Beal, or Simmons.

Wait. What? Why would he reluctantly put Simmons on the table after convincing the Rockets that he is going in a different direction?

If anything, convincing the Rockets of that would be a move to make them up the ante and put Harden on the table for less than they previously asked for. Which may also include Simmons.

But at least then Morey can say "thank you for coming down on your price, I accept."

If Morey wants Harden, and is okay trading Simmons, we wouldn't be seeing any of these reports as it would be a done deal.

I don't think Morey wants Harden bad enough to include Simmons. So any posturing being done at this point is to A) legit try to make another move or B) get Houston to offer Harden without Simmons being involved.

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I think both Morey and Houston like a deal based on Simmons for Harden. The posturing from both sides and what will probably delay such a deal is the additional assets or their lack therof. The real negotiations will be on whether there will be additional picks or not. Of course right now we are at the stage where the SIxers are lowballing the Rockets and the Rockets are looking for other offers and demand maximum value.

[philly262]

I think Morey knows exactly what he is doing. He knows the whole office, the owner,scouts,etc. Houston is trying to get Philly to panic and bid against themselves.

[76ciology]

It's insane how hard elton brand **** us.

Move on.

Sure EB can do better, do does the other two GMs before him.

[SixthStreet]

The reason you hired Morey, for at least in the short term, is for him to make magic out of Horford and more importantly, Harris. I think he's going to be able to do it. Whether he turns and uses that flexibility to do something with Harden I doubt it, but there will be some form of flexibility gained this offseason that can be used later.

[davesilver]

How Morey finds a way to turn garbage into gold with this roster will be a life-changing experience if it happens.