The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

[fleet]

He's 19, I’ll be mildly surprised if he doesn’t settle in at 6’8-6’9 235

Exactly, who else do we know with those dimensions?

Michael Beasley. But he has an above average offensive game.

Jamal Mashburn

[Brothaman33]

At his size, rare athletic tools. How many guys in the league can compare at any one time? A few.

He is 6'7 (some have him at 6'8) 220 lbs.

There are a ton of guys at that size AND at his athleticism that work at Best But after flaming out.

If you look at a player for just his upside...I don't see enough upside. If he completely maxes out, like reaches the fullest of potential, I still don't know how good that is.

Not one highlight shows any level of advanced ballhandling, of playmaking ability, of a quick shot release, of ANY standout trait.

Again, I'm willing to wait it out, cuz I will give tge benefit of the doubt but... I don't know if the best Patrick Williams can be is better then who will be drafted behind him.

He's 19, I’ll be mildly surprised if he doesn’t settle in at 6’8-6’9 235

Yes but if he gets to 6'9 235 then he's a power forward who may struggle to keep up smaller players defensively...which was the whole reason he was drafted in the first place.

I'm down to be patient. He's 19 and will have the whole world coming at him, so 3 years minimum to see what ya got.

[TheFinishSniper]

Deng should be his floor.

If he gets to Deng level, we should all do cartwheels. A Deng level player at 4 in this draft is a complete success.

His floor is Derrick Williams, James Johnson, Nassir Little and every other semi-fluid athlete that doesn't produce in the NBA. The only thing he has going for him is he seems to have a good personality and work ethic, which some of the above lacked. Let's see if that makes the difference.

AK clearly put a lot of trust in people he just hired. It's not just talk. To get this guy and throw him to development guys to make NBA player out of him. That's a lot of faith actually. One thing is trust somebody. Here we are betting our franchise in next 4 years on that.

[MrSparkle]

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Ha! The CBS draft-night grades.

They are completely irrelevant.

[erlim]

Exactly, who else do we know with those dimensions?

Michael Beasley. But he has an above average offensive game.

Jamal Mashburn

Well I was at the UC once when Jamal Mashburn lit up HOF’er Scottie Pippen for 50 points. So that’s something.

[sco]

Williams will likely be a Hutch-type guy. I like Hutch, but was hoping for someone who raised the team's aspirations more. At least he's used to coming off the bench from college.

[fleet]

He is 6'7 (some have him at 6'8) 220 lbs.

There are a ton of guys at that size AND at his athleticism that work at Best But after flaming out.

If you look at a player for just his upside...I don't see enough upside. If he completely maxes out, like reaches the fullest of potential, I still don't know how good that is.

Not one highlight shows any level of advanced ballhandling, of playmaking ability, of a quick shot release, of ANY standout trait.

Again, I'm willing to wait it out, cuz I will give tge benefit of the doubt but... I don't know if the best Patrick Williams can be is better then who will be drafted behind him.

He's 19, I’ll be mildly surprised if he doesn’t settle in at 6’8-6’9 235

Yes but if he gets to 6'9 235 then he's a power forward who may struggle to keep up smaller players defensively...which was the whole reason he was drafted in the first place.

I'm down to be patient. He's 19 and will have the whole world coming at him, so 3 years minimum to see what ya got.

Probably he’ll spend the majority of his 20s about 230 lbs

[pylb]

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[Magilla_Gorilla]

I'll wait and give him time. Watching video though...

He is a child.

Like, eyes wide open, looks like his brain is moving 100 miles an hour. He has soooooooooo much to work on.

Also, he is a good athlete, don't get me wrong. But I do not see ELITE athleticism. Laterally, I don't see elite. Good, maybe great leaper. Good speed, not great. If your gonna draft a high upside athlete, he had better be a elite at it. I don't think he is. He turned 19 in August. We'll have to wait 3 years before we actually see what we have.

I'll wait...

At his size, rare athletic tools. How many guys in the league can compare at any one time? A few.

He is 6'7 (some have him at 6'8) 220 lbs.

There are a ton of guys at that size AND at his athleticism that work at Best But after flaming out.

If you look at a player for just his upside...I don't see enough upside. If he completely maxes out, like reaches the fullest of potential, I still don't know how good that is.

Not one highlight shows any level of advanced ballhandling, of playmaking ability, of a quick shot release, of ANY standout trait.

Again, I'm willing to wait it out, cuz I will give the benefit of the doubt but... I don't know if the best Patrick Williams can be is better then who will be drafted behind him.

There are not a ton of guys at his size built like he is. There just aren’t.

[MGB8]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/11/10/21556874/2020-nba-draft-patrick-williams-florida-state
Another good read on Williams. What I liked about this is his willingness to learn defense and his understanding/acknowledgement that as a freshman, he probably won't be the focal point of the offense with a veteran laden team so he focuses on where he can help the team.

As a prospect he reminds me a bit of Jaylen Brown. Big wing athletic wing who can guard 2-4 with offensive upside.

He doesn’t have Brown’s perimeter movement. More Nasir Little or RHJ or OG or, if he has grown a touch, Siakam. But Williams seems like a good, hard working kid, if nothing else. So while I don’t love the pick, I’ll certainly be rooting for him.

[Clint Eastwood]

I don’t think people realize how huge and thick he is. He is not 220, I don’t care what any one says he’s listed at. He is a freight train with huge wingspan, and leaps out of the gym for dunks.

He chose to go to FSU which is known to be a place that focuses on defense.

He can shoot, and will shoot better. For those who I argued with about avidja and his FF shooting, Pat shoots 83%.

He is so thickly built that his speed is deceptive. Think he is closer to lebron in body than most.

To me, his comps are a taller, longer Butler, or an not crazy Ron arrest. All reports are that he has the work hard on his game mentality. This is such an underrated skill. And he is a willing passer too. And he averaged a block and a steal in 22 min per game.

Don’t focus on him coming off the bench, he was a crucial contributor to one of the best teams in the country. If he went to duke, he would have started and averaged 18/9 and been in talk for top 3 pick in draft if not top pick.

Everyone relax, its a great pick. Only player I definitely wanted more was wiseman.

When drafting in our situation, always better to get the guy who has a unique size for position or athleticism. A guy thats hard to match up with. Imagine a few years from now a guard or thinner small forward trying to guard him, he will knock them on their ass.

He may be an Anthony Mason with range.

Get excited bulls fans!!!!!!

[erlim]

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Could you imagine if a college coach actually spoke his mind and said, “holy ****, my guy is really nothing good...can’t believe a team wasted their pick?”

If he was that good, he would have started and finished, plain and simple.

[Jo Jo English]

Michael Beasley. But he has an above average offensive game.

Jamal Mashburn

Well I was at the UC once when Jamal Mashburn lit up HOF’er Scottie Pippen for 50 points. So that’s something.

I was there too! Jimmy Jackson had like 37 as well.

It was early in the 94/95 season, right?

(I swear I didn't look any of this up. How close was I?)

***

I did look it up. Jackson had 38.

[Brothaman33]

He's 19, I’ll be mildly surprised if he doesn’t settle in at 6’8-6’9 235

Yes but if he gets to 6'9 235 then he's a power forward who may struggle to keep up smaller players defensively...which was the whole reason he was drafted in the first place.

I'm down to be patient. He's 19 and will have the whole world coming at him, so 3 years minimum to see what ya got.

Probably he’ll spend the majority of his 20s about 230 lbs

I guess my point is...he looks to have been drafted for his upside, athleticism and tools.

But I don't think his upside, tools or athleticism are actually elite enough to warrant some guys they passed on.

With that being said, I hope he turns into Tracy McGrady.

[barn34]

There's going to be A LOT of crow being served by the quick takes in this thread.

Pat Will will be fine. Mock drafts in a pandemic year still had him rocketing up boards quickly. This isn't a reach and even if it is, it won't matter if he was picked 4th, 7th, or 10th when he's putting up numbers in the future...

[Clocian]

I want this youngin to prove haters wrong. Can't wait to see him in action

[erlim]

Jamal Mashburn

Well I was at the UC once when Jamal Mashburn lit up HOF’er Scottie Pippen for 50 points. So that’s something.

I was there too! Jimmy Jackson had like 37 as well.

It was early in the 94/95 season, right?

(I swear I didn't look any of this up. How close was I?)

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I was just a little kid, but I was so angry.

I can remember 90s Pip handling large and wide assignments like Mason, but Jamal Mashburn just ate several months of his breakfast, lunches, and dinners that night.

[Southpaw]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/11/10/21556874/2020-nba-draft-patrick-williams-florida-state
Another good read on Williams. What I liked about this is his willingness to learn defense and his understanding/acknowledgement that as a freshman, he probably won't be the focal point of the offense with a veteran laden team so he focuses on where he can help the team.

As a prospect he reminds me a bit of Jaylen Brown. Big wing athletic wing who can guard 2-4 with offensive upside.

He doesn’t have Brown’s perimeter movement. More Nasir Little or RHJ or OG or, if he has grown a touch, Siakam. But Williams seems like a good, hard working kid, if nothing else. So while I don’t love the pick, I’ll certainly be rooting for him.

Yeah plus Brown is more explosive. I meant more their roles on the team. OG is a good comp as well. His shot is a bit slow tho but looks like Kawhi's mechanics wise.

[dougthonus]

I'll wait and give him time. Watching video though...

He is a child.

Like, eyes wide open, looks like his brain is moving 100 miles an hour. He has soooooooooo much to work on.

Also, he is a good athlete, don't get me wrong. But I do not see ELITE athleticism. Laterally, I don't see elite. Good, maybe great leaper. Good speed, not great. If your gonna draft a high upside athlete, he had better be a elite at it. I don't think he is. He turned 19 in August. We'll have to wait 3 years before we actually see what we have.

I'll wait...

At his size, rare athletic tools. How many guys in the league can compare at any one time? A few.

He is 6'7 (some have him at 6'8) 220 lbs.

There are a ton of guys at that size AND at his athleticism that work at Best But after flaming out.

If you look at a player for just his upside...I don't see enough upside. If he completely maxes out, like reaches the fullest of potential, I still don't know how good that is.

Not one highlight shows any level of advanced ballhandling, of playmaking ability, of a quick shot release, of ANY standout trait.

Again, I'm willing to wait it out, cuz I will give the benefit of the doubt but... I don't know if the best Patrick Williams can be is better then who will be drafted behind him.

This was my assessment watching him too.

The only thing I'll add is there has been a ton of time between college and now, and he (like all other prospects) has been working hard at improving their games. It's possible he's made more leaps than we expect during that period of time.

[kulaz3000]

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