Fake Trade Thread #3

BlackOutBuzz · Post #281 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:50 pm

It's worth repeating that - should they want him - the Hornets can offer Harrell up to $82M over 4 years without needing to trade anything (which is like double what he's expected to make).

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James Gatz · Post #282 » by **James Gatz** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:17 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:It's worth repeating that - should they want him - the Hornets can offer Harrell up to $82M over 4 years without needing to trade anything (which is like double what he's expected to make).

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the S&T aspect would be to allow Clips to take Rozier back. They don't have any matching contracts unless they plan to swap Bev + 2nds for Rozier.

It would only make sense to do S&T with Harrell if we wanted to Rozier at the same time.

Personally, doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I think Rozier stays.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #283 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:33 pm

James Gatz wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:It's worth repeating that - should they want him - the Hornets can offer Harrell up to $82M over 4 years without needing to trade anything (which is like double what he's expected to make).

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the S&T aspect would be to allow Clips to take Rozier back. They don't have any matching contracts unless they plan to swap Bev + 2nds for Rozier.

It would only make sense to do S&T with Harrell if we wanted to Rozier at the same time.

Personally, doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I think Rozier stays.

Right, it's completely to the Clippers' benefit. It only makes sense for the Hornets if (A) they just view Rozier as having negative value - he doesn't - or (B) they send other assets over - they don't have many.

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MasterIchiro · Post #284 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:26 pm

Hornets

Rozier + Zeller for Beverly + Myles Turner

Clippers

Lou Williams + Beverly + Zubac for Rozier + Zeller

Pacers

Myles Turner for Zubac + Lou Williams expiring

MasterIchiro · Post #285 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:28 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Hornets

Rozier + Zeller for Beverly + Myles Turner

Clippers

Lou Williams + Beverly + Zubac for Rozier + Zeller

Pacers

Myles Turner for Zubac + Lou Williams expiring

Sign Hood

Devonte' / Beverly
LaMelo / Monk
Bridges / Hood / Martin
PJ / McDaniels
Turner / Carey Jr.

James Gatz · Post #286 » by **James Gatz** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:34 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Hornets

Rozier + Zeller for Beverly + Myles Turner

Clippers

Lou Williams + Beverly + Zubac for Rozier + Zeller

Pacers

Myles Turner for Zubac + Lou Williams expiring

We're stealing value from both teams here. Turner and Lou are the best players in this deal.

Braggins · Post #287 » by **Braggins** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:49 pm

Apparently Hayward is trying to go to Indiana and it will have to be a sign and trade. I'm guessing they just do a Turner/Hayward swap, which works for both teams.

If Boston doesn't want Turner we could possibly get in on a 3-way deal and send Boston Rozier (assuming they want another guard) and we get Turner, but that doesn't seem too likely tbh.

Edit: Just saw this. First part seems like a solid deal for Boston to avoid losing Hayward for nothing. Ainge is out of his mind if he thinks they're giving up Warren or Oladipo. That would make the move completely lateral for Indiana.

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MasterIchiro · Post #288 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:30 am

I hate that the Celtics are getting Myles Turner. I know they will and I just hate it.

I still want to get Harrell. Forget sign-and-trade. Just sign him.

esoteric001 · Post #289 » by **esoteric001** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:57 am

Looks like Harrel took less money to sign with LA. I wonder how much more the Hornets offered(Source: Brad Turner Twitter.)

fox2jk · Post #290 » by **fox2jk** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:36 am

Rozier of Julius Randle.

Hornets have 3 point guards so somethings got to give. Not much happening underneath the basket unless PJ really picks things up. Randle would be a nice fit straight up for Rozier. It evens things out a bit. Randle has issues but he can rebound and score. Plus he's still young.

Post #291 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:40 am

fox2jk wrote:Rozier of Julius Randle.

Hornets have 3 point guards so somethings got to give. Not much happening underneath the basket unless PJ really picks things up. Randle would be a nice fit straight up for Rozier. It evens things out a bit. Randle has issues but he can rebound and score. Plus he's still young.

Not a fan of Randle at all. Would rather give every single available min to Vernon than ever have Randle see the court for us.

Rich4114 · Post #292 » by **Rich4114** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:40 am

Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.

Post #293 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:42 am

Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.

Disagree. I think Terry is wayyyyyyyy better and has much more value than Randle.

fox2jk · Post #294 » by **fox2jk** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:59 am

Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.

hence the trade?

fox2jk · Post #295 » by **fox2jk** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:00 am

BigSlam wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.

Disagree. I think Terry is wayyyyyyyy better and has much more value than Randle.

an undersized 2 with no defense who can score verse an undersized PF who plays no defense and can score.

Post #296 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:02 am

fox2jk wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.

Disagree. I think Terry is wayyyyyyyy better and has much more value than Randle.

an undersized 2 with no defense who can score verse an undersized PF who plays no defense and can score.

Randle is a black hole of prime Z-Bo proportion and is the epitome of empty stats to me.

Post #297 » by **Diop** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:18 am

I didn't think Rozier's defence was that bad.

Liver_Pooty · Post #298 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:43 am

Rozier has more value than Randle. Period.

316Hornets · Post #299 » by **316Hornets** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:10 pm

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Not sure what to make of this. Clippers don't have a lot of salaries that would match, so possibly a third team.

Only trade I'd consider would be Patrick Beverley + Mfiondu Kabengele for Rozier.

316Hornets · Post #300 » by **316Hornets** » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:18 pm

I don't hate it..