Fake Trade Thread #3
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It's worth repeating that - should they want him - the Hornets can offer Harrell up to $82M over 4 years without needing to trade anything (which is like double what he's expected to make).
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Hornets Picks by Year
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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BlackOutBuzz wrote:It's worth repeating that - should they want him - the Hornets can offer Harrell up to $82M over 4 years without needing to trade anything (which is like double what he's expected to make).
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the S&T aspect would be to allow Clips to take Rozier back. They don't have any matching contracts unless they plan to swap Bev + 2nds for Rozier.
It would only make sense to do S&T with Harrell if we wanted to Rozier at the same time.
Personally, doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I think Rozier stays.
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Right, it's completely to the Clippers' benefit. It only makes sense for the Hornets if (A) they just view Rozier as having negative value - he doesn't - or (B) they send other assets over - they don't have many.James Gatz wrote:BlackOutBuzz wrote:It's worth repeating that - should they want him - the Hornets can offer Harrell up to $82M over 4 years without needing to trade anything (which is like double what he's expected to make).
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the S&T aspect would be to allow Clips to take Rozier back. They don't have any matching contracts unless they plan to swap Bev + 2nds for Rozier.
It would only make sense to do S&T with Harrell if we wanted to Rozier at the same time.
Personally, doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I think Rozier stays.
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Hornets Picks by Year
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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Hornets
Rozier + Zeller for Beverly + Myles Turner
Clippers
Lou Williams + Beverly + Zubac for Rozier + Zeller
Pacers
Myles Turner for Zubac + Lou Williams expiring
Rozier + Zeller for Beverly + Myles Turner
Clippers
Lou Williams + Beverly + Zubac for Rozier + Zeller
Pacers
Myles Turner for Zubac + Lou Williams expiring
It has been written...
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MasterIchiro wrote:Hornets
Rozier + Zeller for Beverly + Myles Turner
Clippers
Lou Williams + Beverly + Zubac for Rozier + Zeller
Pacers
Myles Turner for Zubac + Lou Williams expiring
Sign Hood
Devonte' / Beverly
LaMelo / Monk
Bridges / Hood / Martin
PJ / McDaniels
Turner / Carey Jr.
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MasterIchiro wrote:Hornets
Rozier + Zeller for Beverly + Myles Turner
Clippers
Lou Williams + Beverly + Zubac for Rozier + Zeller
Pacers
Myles Turner for Zubac + Lou Williams expiring
We're stealing value from both teams here. Turner and Lou are the best players in this deal.
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Apparently Hayward is trying to go to Indiana and it will have to be a sign and trade. I'm guessing they just do a Turner/Hayward swap, which works for both teams.
If Boston doesn't want Turner we could possibly get in on a 3-way deal and send Boston Rozier (assuming they want another guard) and we get Turner, but that doesn't seem too likely tbh.
Edit: Just saw this. First part seems like a solid deal for Boston to avoid losing Hayward for nothing. Ainge is out of his mind if he thinks they're giving up Warren or Oladipo. That would make the move completely lateral for Indiana.
If Boston doesn't want Turner we could possibly get in on a 3-way deal and send Boston Rozier (assuming they want another guard) and we get Turner, but that doesn't seem too likely tbh.
Edit: Just saw this. First part seems like a solid deal for Boston to avoid losing Hayward for nothing. Ainge is out of his mind if he thinks they're giving up Warren or Oladipo. That would make the move completely lateral for Indiana.
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I hate that the Celtics are getting Myles Turner. I know they will and I just hate it.
I still want to get Harrell. Forget sign-and-trade. Just sign him.
I still want to get Harrell. Forget sign-and-trade. Just sign him.
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Looks like Harrel took less money to sign with LA. I wonder how much more the Hornets offered(Source: Brad Turner Twitter.)
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Rozier of Julius Randle.
Hornets have 3 point guards so somethings got to give. Not much happening underneath the basket unless PJ really picks things up. Randle would be a nice fit straight up for Rozier. It evens things out a bit. Randle has issues but he can rebound and score. Plus he's still young.
Hornets have 3 point guards so somethings got to give. Not much happening underneath the basket unless PJ really picks things up. Randle would be a nice fit straight up for Rozier. It evens things out a bit. Randle has issues but he can rebound and score. Plus he's still young.
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fox2jk wrote:Rozier of Julius Randle.
Hornets have 3 point guards so somethings got to give. Not much happening underneath the basket unless PJ really picks things up. Randle would be a nice fit straight up for Rozier. It evens things out a bit. Randle has issues but he can rebound and score. Plus he's still young.
Not a fan of Randle at all. Would rather give every single available min to Vernon than ever have Randle see the court for us.
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Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.
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Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.
Disagree. I think Terry is wayyyyyyyy better and has much more value than Randle.
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Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.
hence the trade?
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BigSlam wrote:Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.
Disagree. I think Terry is wayyyyyyyy better and has much more value than Randle.
an undersized 2 with no defense who can score verse an undersized PF who plays no defense and can score.
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fox2jk wrote:BigSlam wrote:Rich4114 wrote:Randle is like the Terry Rozier of power forwards.
Disagree. I think Terry is wayyyyyyyy better and has much more value than Randle.
an undersized 2 with no defense who can score verse an undersized PF who plays no defense and can score.
Randle is a black hole of prime Z-Bo proportion and is the epitome of empty stats to me.
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I didn't think Rozier's defence was that bad.
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Rozier has more value than Randle. Period.
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Not sure what to make of this. Clippers don't have a lot of salaries that would match, so possibly a third team.
Only trade I'd consider would be Patrick Beverley + Mfiondu Kabengele for Rozier.
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I don't hate it..