Magic re-sign F James Ennis to a 1-year contract
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Oh my **** God, we really are just going run back the same exact team for the 5th year in a row and expect a different result
Literally makes me sick how little of a plan these guys have. League mins scrubs added to a 38 win team is clearly the way to fix this joke of a team
Literally makes me sick how little of a plan these guys have. League mins scrubs added to a 38 win team is clearly the way to fix this joke of a team
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Love James’ toughness on the court. I think he can help spread the floor for us.
Sucks to see the same team back again tho.
Sucks to see the same team back again tho.
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fendilim wrote:Love James’ toughness on the court. I think he can help spread the floor for us.
Sucks to see the same team back again tho.
After seeing his play in the bubble, I'd seriously rather have Mane start at sf than ennis.
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I don't think that they are running it back as much as just a matter of the circumstances.
a) This is a compresses free agency market.
b) There is still alot of uncertainty around the league.
c) The Magic don't have any cap room.
d) The Magic are not contenders and attracting big names.
Even if look at it right now most of the big names are returning back to their old teams. Also most of the contracts are short ones. It seems like teams are just trying to get through this crazy time with as little financial burden as possible. The only team that seems to be the exception to this are the Warriors. This doesn't mean that there won't be trades. I don't think they will happen now but I do think that at least one of (maybe more) Gordon, Fournier, and Vuc will be traded by the trade deadline.
a) This is a compresses free agency market.
b) There is still alot of uncertainty around the league.
c) The Magic don't have any cap room.
d) The Magic are not contenders and attracting big names.
Even if look at it right now most of the big names are returning back to their old teams. Also most of the contracts are short ones. It seems like teams are just trying to get through this crazy time with as little financial burden as possible. The only team that seems to be the exception to this are the Warriors. This doesn't mean that there won't be trades. I don't think they will happen now but I do think that at least one of (maybe more) Gordon, Fournier, and Vuc will be traded by the trade deadline.
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Good move. Ennis played well last season, so we gave him one more year. He is cheap and won't impact our cap space next season. Also, having an expiring player earning 3M is good to march salaries in a possible deal during trade deadline.
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Howard Mass wrote:I am glad James Ennis is returning.
It's a one-year deal for more money to likely start again
The options are limited this free agency and given the money have committed to Vucevic and Fultz and Issac restricted free agents after the season, it's best to not tie up money long-term.
Who do you all want The Magic to sign?
The big moves this season if any were always going to come via Trade.
I think it's a good deal. I said I wish he would've picked up his option the first time. However, as for who they should've signed, I probably would've preferred nobody, honestly. My reasoning is that I'd want Okeke to have a chance to start. Or at least get more time. Now, he's likely not going to get much time. We now have a depth chart of:
Fultz/Anthony
Fournier/Bacon
Ennis/Ross
Gordon/Aminu
Vucevic/Bamba
Where are the minutes going to come from for Okeke?
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The Real Dalic wrote:Howard Mass wrote:I am glad James Ennis is returning.
It's a one-year deal for more money to likely start again
The options are limited this free agency and given the money have committed to Vucevic and Fultz and Issac restricted free agents after the season, it's best to not tie up money long-term.
Who do you all want The Magic to sign?
The big moves this season if any were always going to come via Trade.
I think it's a good deal. I said I wish he would've picked up his option the first time. However, as for who they should've signed, I probably would've preferred nobody, honestly. My reasoning is that I'd want Okeke to have a chance to start. Or at least get more time. Now, he's likely not going to get much time. We now have a depth chart of:
Fultz/Anthony
Fournier/Bacon
Ennis/Ross
Gordon/Aminu
Vucevic/Bamba
Where are the minutes going to come from for Okeke?
We'll work him in slowly like we do everybody. Frustrating but it's what to expect.
To be fair though, even coming into last season everybody was saying how we had way too many big men but then we had injuries to Aminu/Gordon/Bamba/Vuc/Isaac all for varying lengths of time and had to play 12th-15th men for depth.
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He made 1M for two-days work (the time from declining his player option to signing a new deal).
BRILLIANT!
BRILLIANT!
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I'm guessing Okeke averages 5-7 mpg. This front office is sooooooooo frustrating.
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The Effect wrote:fendilim wrote:Love James’ toughness on the court. I think he can help spread the floor for us.
Sucks to see the same team back again tho.
After seeing his play in the bubble, I'd seriously rather have Mane start at sf than ennis.
Ennis doesnt move a needle or isnt a really good player, but to start an untested 20-years old over him is absurd.
Mane isnt even built like an NBA player yet.
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fendilim wrote:The Effect wrote:fendilim wrote:Love James’ toughness on the court. I think he can help spread the floor for us.
Sucks to see the same team back again tho.
After seeing his play in the bubble, I'd seriously rather have Mane start at sf than ennis.
Ennis doesnt move a needle or isnt a really good player, but to start an untested 20-years old over him is absurd.
Mane isnt even built like an NBA player yet.
I think he was being sarcasric or what not. Well.. i would rather throw to the fire Okeke rather thab starting Ennis
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RookieStar wrote:fendilim wrote:The Effect wrote:After seeing his play in the bubble, I'd seriously rather have Mane start at sf than ennis.
Ennis doesnt move a needle or isnt a really good player, but to start an untested 20-years old over him is absurd.
Mane isnt even built like an NBA player yet.
I think he was being sarcasric or what not. Well.. i would rather throw to the fire Okeke rather thab starting Ennis
Yeah. I’d love to see Okeke. I think he has a good chance to be a part of the rotation with Isaac put and Okeke plays defense and seems to have his game under control.
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If you are looking at it from a team pov, not having any real preseason camp to let new players jell and learn the playbook, then this is a good move, we'll start the season with the same starting line up we ended the regular season with.
I see these ancillary pieces either stay the same or change, it isn't a big deal. Every team has these pieces. I'm more interested in making changes to the core of players. We will get to see a bit of that with Cole and Okeke at least.
I see these ancillary pieces either stay the same or change, it isn't a big deal. Every team has these pieces. I'm more interested in making changes to the core of players. We will get to see a bit of that with Cole and Okeke at least.
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Chuma is gonna get plenty minutes, potential rookie of the year
Draft Carter
Sign monk
Trade Cole for a forward
Let chuma+fultz go
Offer goga a 1+1 deal
unleash Jett next seaon
Go Magic
Sign monk
Trade Cole for a forward
Let chuma+fultz go
Offer goga a 1+1 deal
unleash Jett next seaon
Go Magic
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Howard Mass wrote:Who do you all want The Magic to sign?
The big moves this season if any were always going to come via Trade.
My issue isn’t with the singings themselves. It’s with the fact that these signings more then likely signal in my eyes that they are content with this roster && will be going into another NBA season with virtually no changes to the “core” of this team.
From a player development standpoint, && a watchability standpoint as a fan, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
They have failed to address for another offseason any of the major issues with this roster and are basically accepting defeat before the season even starts and will finish another year as the 8th-11th seed in the East.
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PrimeThyme wrote:Howard Mass wrote:Who do you all want The Magic to sign?
The big moves this season if any were always going to come via Trade.
My issue isn’t with the singings themselves. It’s with the fact that these signings more then likely signal in my eyes that they are content with this roster && will be going into another NBA season with virtually no changes to the “core” of this team.
From a player development standpoint, && a watchability standpoint as a fan, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
They have failed to address for another offseason any of the major issues with this roster and are basically accepting defeat before the season even starts and will finish another year as the 8th-11th seed in the East.
Are there any moves you feel The Magic can make that would get them out of the 8-11 range?
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Howard Mass wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:Howard Mass wrote:Who do you all want The Magic to sign?
The big moves this season if any were always going to come via Trade.
My issue isn’t with the singings themselves. It’s with the fact that these signings more then likely signal in my eyes that they are content with this roster && will be going into another NBA season with virtually no changes to the “core” of this team.
From a player development standpoint, && a watchability standpoint as a fan, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
They have failed to address for another offseason any of the major issues with this roster and are basically accepting defeat before the season even starts and will finish another year as the 8th-11th seed in the East.
Are there any moves you feel The Magic can make that would get them out of the 8-11 range?
Here’s an alternate question to your question.
Has the core of this team proven in 7 years that they aren’t mediocre?
Fans aren’t mad because we signed some glorified bench players. They are mad that they have to watch yet another season of the same boring roster. This FO has had many years to turn the ship into whatever they wanted. They never made an impactful decision to change the dynamics of the roster.
I care less about the FA signings because I’m realistic about Orlando’s draw. I care more that this FO is too scared to pick a direction and would rather treadmill despite taking a risk in either direction. Watching this team is painful. This year is a tank year and they refuse to cut bait on ANY of the mainstays.
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Why is this team so obsessed with having the same team all the time. It’s not that Ennis was bad for us, he wasn’t horrible or anything. But he’s not a difference maker either. It’s ok to check out other players, maybe younger and see what they got to offer. But no, let’s play this guy another season for 25mpg
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Lol... people are acting like they gave James ennis a jj redick one year bag. If okeke outplays aminu and ennis... he will get the minutes and eventual starting position. But you have to hedge your bets.
Happy about the Mane signing.... i had posted bout him in the draft thread.
https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-draft-2020-canadian-draft-prospect-who-is-karim-mane-scouting-report-strengths-weaknesses/1jyeatt1ya3i6157uinvn6ixea
Had offers to some decent US Colleges.... so that leaves some definite intrigue as well.
Hope he becomes a steal.
Happy about the Mane signing.... i had posted bout him in the draft thread.
https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-draft-2020-canadian-draft-prospect-who-is-karim-mane-scouting-report-strengths-weaknesses/1jyeatt1ya3i6157uinvn6ixea
Had offers to some decent US Colleges.... so that leaves some definite intrigue as well.
Electing to forgo his college eligibility, passing up scholarship offers from the likes of Kansas, Maryland, Marquette, Michigan State, Texas, Wake Forest and Xavier, Mane decided to shift his focus toward preparing for the 2020 NBA Draft.
He is a two-time winner of the Quebec Student Sports Federation (RSEQ) title and is looking to become the first player ever to come directly from the RSEQ without first attending an NCAA Division 1 school.
Hope he becomes a steal.
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MagicMatic wrote:Howard Mass wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:My issue isn’t with the singings themselves. It’s with the fact that these signings more then likely signal in my eyes that they are content with this roster && will be going into another NBA season with virtually no changes to the “core” of this team.
From a player development standpoint, && a watchability standpoint as a fan, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
They have failed to address for another offseason any of the major issues with this roster and are basically accepting defeat before the season even starts and will finish another year as the 8th-11th seed in the East.
Are there any moves you feel The Magic can make that would get them out of the 8-11 range?
Here’s an alternate question to your question.
Has the core of this team proven in 7 years that they aren’t mediocre?
Fans aren’t mad because we signed some glorified bench players. They are mad that they have to watch yet another season of the same boring roster. This FO has had many years to turn the ship into whatever they wanted. They never made an impactful decision to change the dynamics of the roster.
I care less about the FA signings because I’m realistic about Orlando’s draw. I care more that this FO is too scared to pick a direction and would rather treadmill despite taking a risk in either direction. Watching this team is painful. This year is a tank year and they refuse to cut bait on ANY of the mainstays.
I understand the frustration and it sucks to be in a position where The Magic are as in stuck.
WeltHam has improved things and they do need to make a deal but not force things.
I laid out the situation here. viewtopic.php?p=86525565#p86525565
Isaac's injury really has set this team back and this season, they need to decide the direction of this roster and I feel the pressure is going to be on if changes are not made along with a direction being decided by The Trading Deadline.
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