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Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV

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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#361 » by Richard4444 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:07 pm

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I didn't like Portis all that much but yet again, another instance of us having no damn clue what to do with any players we have at all times. Apparently the team gearing up for a championship run thought he fit


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Post#362 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:08 pm

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NYKnickerbocker wrote:Damn Bobby getting player options and promises of key roles

Guess we didn’t know what we had


they went from bogdan to bobby, they're doing great :lol:

Shams said he’s a “MAJOR” front court addition tho


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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#363 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:08 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Meh not sure I really see him as a 2. But still I don’t want here Hayward chucking up a lot of shots. He should go to a winning team



Why don't you see him as a two? You are what you can defend really.

I think RJ is kinda slow guarding guards. As he gets bigger I think he might be better off at the 3. Plus it allows us to put a true sniper at the 2.

Yup.

He’s gonna be a Kawhi/Butler type power wing. He’s quite clearly a 3 imo. It’s the position that best suits his speed.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#364 » by NYKnickerbocker » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:08 pm

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Post#365 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:09 pm

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I didn't like Portis all that much but yet again, another instance of us having no damn clue what to do with any players we have at all times. Apparently the team gearing up for a championship run thought he fit


Hmm they paid him 15 mill too eh?


I didn’t say a word about money, I’m taking about basketball. Portis was a mess here most nights yet arguably the best team in the conference sees value.


Gee, it's almost as if players and the money they get matters in the context of the team, where they are in the rebuild or compete phase and other things like fit.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#366 » by stuporman » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:09 pm

For FVF it comes down to whether he wants to stay where he is and run it back with the Raptors at the higher salary though maybe not an increased role right away or go to the Knicks at a similar salary but in the starting spot with the keys in his hands to lead the team in the bright lights of NYC.

Which will he pick? The comfortable or the challenge?
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#367 » by knickabocker88 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:10 pm

wouldnt it be easier if realgm just put a twitter feed of Shams and Woj on the right side of the forum?
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Post#368 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:10 pm

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Bogdanovic is 28 and he is a volume 3 point shooter, that can handle the ball and took the starting job from Hield because he plays better defense and has better all around skills. I'm kind of curios to see if he can breakout as a scorer since he wont be competing for shots in a backcourt with Hield and Fox.

He’s not bad but he’s 28. Doesn’t have a long term role here. I rather have Malik Beasley. But he’s off the market now. Quickley is a sniper so we should just start him.

We need vets who can play though. By the time his contract ends he’ll be in the tail-end of his prime and still productive at 32. Just as our young guys enter their primes. You can then make a decision to let him go or resign him.

The Heat can still find a role for Dragic for instance, and he’s in his mid-30s. He’s contributed to the culture and the style of play since he arrived there. That has a lot of value.

We can always bring back Wayne Ellingthong as the vet in a minimal role lol. Heat situation is different though. They know how to develop players and win at the same time. We don’t. So might as well tank full on.

I do want to start Quickley over someone like Bodganovich though. I think people sleeping on his upside. On Kentucky he played mainly off the ball but he has more skills than that. He can create for himself.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#369 » by G_K_F » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:10 pm

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Shams is trolling with the major front court addition line.

Portis is a high volume scorer and he can stretch the floor a bit, which helps the Bucks, but they will quickly come to see why he's become a journeyman.
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Post#370 » by god shammgod » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:10 pm

free agency is funny. all these moves, all this excitement. we all eat it up. yet when the dust settles, the only team really capable of beating last year's lakers is this year's lakers. they probably improved the most. they added 2 6 man of the year types to a bench that was terrible. lol
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Post#371 » by snadler » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:11 pm

stuporman wrote:For FVF it comes down to whether he wants to stay where he is and run it back with the Raptors at the higher salary though maybe not an increased role right away or go to the Knicks at a similar salary but in the starting spot with the keys in his hands to lead the team in the bright lights of NYC.

Which will he pick? The comfortable or the challenge?


Be on a contender or be in the lottery?
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Post#372 » by NYKnickerbocker » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:12 pm

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Shams is trolling with the major front court addition line.

Portis is a high volume scorer and he can stretch the floor a bit, which helps the Bucks, but they will quickly come to see why he's become a journeyman.

Think the Bucks got him on payroll or somthing lol. First he called Jrue holiday a superstar and now Bobby portis who was apart of the “ lol Knicks PF” group a major addition lmao
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#373 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:12 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:He’s not bad but he’s 28. Doesn’t have a long term role here. I rather have Malik Beasley. But he’s off the market now. Quickley is a sniper so we should just start him.

We need vets who can play though. By the time his contract ends he’ll be in the tail-end of his prime and still productive at 32. Just as our young guys enter their primes. You can then make a decision to let him go or resign him.

The Heat can still find a role for Dragic for instance, and he’s in his mid-30s. He’s contributed to the culture and the style of play since he arrived there. That has a lot of value.

We can always bring back Wayne Ellingthong as the vet in a minimal role lol. Heat situation is different though. They know how to develop players and win at the same time. We don’t. So might as well tank full on.

I do want to start Quickley over someone like Bodganovich though. I think people sleeping on his upside. On Kentucky he played mainly off the ball but he has more skills than that. He can create for himself.


Oh F*CK NO to Wayne Ellington. He had the most broken jumper of a supposed "great outside shooter" ever.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#374 » by Fury » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:12 pm

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Wow now he’s a “major frontcourt addition” **** outta here lol
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#375 » by Fury » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:13 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:He’s not bad but he’s 28. Doesn’t have a long term role here. I rather have Malik Beasley. But he’s off the market now. Quickley is a sniper so we should just start him.

We need vets who can play though. By the time his contract ends he’ll be in the tail-end of his prime and still productive at 32. Just as our young guys enter their primes. You can then make a decision to let him go or resign him.

The Heat can still find a role for Dragic for instance, and he’s in his mid-30s. He’s contributed to the culture and the style of play since he arrived there. That has a lot of value.

We can always bring back Wayne Ellingthong as the vet in a minimal role lol. Heat situation is different though. They know how to develop players and win at the same time. We don’t. So might as well tank full on.

I do want to start Quickley over someone like Bodganovich though. I think people sleeping on his upside. On Kentucky he played mainly off the ball but he has more skills than that. He can create for himself.


Really hope it was a Devin Booker situation
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#376 » by NotDikembeSayNo » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:14 pm

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Hmm they paid him 15 mill too eh?


I didn’t say a word about money, I’m taking about basketball. Portis was a mess here most nights yet arguably the best team in the conference sees value.


Gee, it's almost as if players and the money they get matters in the context of the team, where they are in the rebuild or compete phase and other things like fit.


Then the Grizzlies made a pretty terrible signing.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#377 » by EricAnderson » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:14 pm

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All teams that have shown signs of life. Teams that don’t tank year after year and hire the wrong coaches and GMs and they actually develop talent. Maybe at some point we’ll stop tanking and actually show signs of life so players have more than just financial reasons to join us. I know we are conditioned to think “THIRTEENTH PICK BAD TANKING GOOD” but how has that worked out for anyone since, I dunno, the Cavs in 03?


We haven’t been tanking we’ve just been inept.

Also you need talent to develop it we have very little talent to work with which is why you want to get those guys through the draft who are good enough to convince FA’s to eventually come here.


The tanking comment was aimed more towards fans that somehow are still under the impression that tanking is a viable solution in 2020. We agree though. You need to develop what you have so that you can show those signs of life and actually be an attractive destination. We’ve drafted talented players, we’ve just completely botched their development. Hopefully it stops this year with Thibs taking over and him actually having a track record of developing wing players like RJ (Butler) and big men like Mitch (KAT)


I think tanking is a viable solution.

We’ve never tanked which is why we usually end up with a pick somewhere around 6-8 when we had high picks we got KP.

I also disagree that we’ve had talent that we botched.. Where? I think we’ve drafted badly overall.

I don’t see any of our current young guys as anything close to franchise players..at best mane solid starters.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#378 » by Gravy » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:14 pm

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Ahhh we get to watch another player not good enough for the Knicks contribute in the playoffs.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#379 » by knickabocker88 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:15 pm

I wouldn't have minded Frank and Hayward sharing ball handling responsibilities. But it looks like Frank is gonna be the Captain now & all you will like it.
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Post#380 » by god shammgod » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:15 pm

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stuporman wrote:For FVF it comes down to whether he wants to stay where he is and run it back with the Raptors at the higher salary though maybe not an increased role right away or go to the Knicks at a similar salary but in the starting spot with the keys in his hands to lead the team in the bright lights of NYC.

Which will he pick? The comfortable or the challenge?


Be on a contender or be in the lottery?


joining the knicks would be the worst mistake of his life. more of him would be expected than he's capable of, as he would be the big free agent signing, and it's obvious he's gonna lose for years here.

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